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CrabMan89
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posted April 17, 2011 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrabMan89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Synastry

I will post the Composite charts if you want.
Thanks in advance!

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posted April 17, 2011 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please post composite, thanks!

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CrabMan89
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posted April 18, 2011 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrabMan89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Composite chart:

As you see, the chart lacks in Air element, has 7 T-Squares and 2 Mystic Rectangles.


I have posted the aspects grid in the next post, I hope it helps.

Thank you!

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CrabMan89
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posted April 18, 2011 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrabMan89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Note that some aspects are not listed on this grid, I found them manually and I'll post them if you want.

Synastry aspects grid:
(My planets listed horizontally and hers vertically)

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posted April 18, 2011 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are you personally looking for, at this time?

If that is too difficult, could you tell me what you DO NOT want the result to be?

I will be better able to steer you in the right direction, that way.

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posted April 18, 2011 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*P2*

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CrabMan89
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posted April 18, 2011 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrabMan89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

In regards to what I'm looking for I have to say that I always wanted a serious relationship, one that's seeking a goal. I'm not too much of a fun, party-going, playful guy although I don't deny having fun I try so hard to bring some fun into the relationship, I just want an achievement next to the fun part. And I'm looking for someone who shares the same hobbies and interests with me.

If there's going to be great challenges I guess I have to wait then.
Thanks again for your help.

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posted April 18, 2011 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*P2*

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CrabMan89
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posted April 18, 2011 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrabMan89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
I am inclined to say the prospects are better with the Cancer sun born in 1986, but there will be challenges within that relationship.

That's what I felt. We (me and my cancer) had many ups and downs and although we finished college and we don't see each other but I just could not forget about her. So i got her number and got in touch with her again. I hope it goes well this time.
A couple of days ago, I asked the cancer something about her mom (she has moon in Aqua 5H oppositie Venus in Leo 11H) and told her that I guessed she had a difficult relationship with her mom (she doesn't know about astrology yet) and she got mad pretty bad, she thought I was stalking her or trying to do so, she turned off her cell the next day I had to apologize through email. I was so ashamed of myself!!!
I know I'm a newbie and I guess I misinterpreted the aspect in her natal chart! LOL!

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posted April 18, 2011 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrabMan89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PlutoSquared, could you also tell me briefly about our compatibility?

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posted April 18, 2011 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure thing. I can do that.

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posted April 19, 2011 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrabMan89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Patiently waiting for your interpretation on Cancer-Cancer Synastry/Composite, PlutoSquared.
Among all questions I wonder if feeling is mutual (I found some cross-aspects)?
What is the solution to T-Sqs since their empty leg falls in first house?
This is probably irrelevant to this topic but what is the correct interpretation of her Aqua Moon in H5 opposite her Leo Venus in H11 in her natal chart?

Overall what are the positive and negative aspects of this relationship and how does each person affect the other?
That's a lot of questions I hope you're not overwhelmed by this.
Thanks!

P.S: I'm going to refer her to this and some other threads, so she'll probably be reading these soon.

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posted April 19, 2011 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CrabMan89:
Patiently waiting for your interpretation on Cancer-Cancer Synastry/Composite, PlutoSquared.
Among all questions I wonder if feeling is mutual (I found some cross-aspects)?
What is the solution to T-Sqs since their empty leg falls in first house?
This is probably irrelevant to this topic but what is the correct interpretation of her Aqua Moon in H5 opposite her Leo Venus in H11 in her natal chart?

Overall what are the positive and negative aspects of this relationship and how does each person affect the other?
That's a lot of questions I hope you're not overwhelmed by this.
Thanks!

[b]P.S: I'm going to refer her to this and some other threads, so she'll probably be reading these soon.[/B]


I haven't forgotten you, CrabMan

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posted May 01, 2011 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrabMan89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just read this page (http://zodiac-traits.com/cancer-man-cancer-woman.html). Waiting for your reading of our charts.

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posted June 29, 2011 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, Crabman. I'm back. I didn't forget you, just went away for a long time and came back...

But, I will complete your reading now, regardless.

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posted June 29, 2011 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Crabman,

First, I'll tell you which aspects I think are good, then I'll end with the bad.

Your suns are conjunct. This makes you incredible at understanding each other's identities and motivations. Her sun is conjunct your Jupiter. She resonates well with your energy, finding you fun and interesting and attractive. Your moons are TRINE. This is a wonderful aspect of emotional compatibility. Her Venus is conjunct your Mars... ATTRACTION.

Ok, now... here are the tough ones...

Her Saturn opposed your Moon. You may feel she is emotionally cold to you, or blocks you emotionally. This could also play out as a mental aversion to comittment. Her Moon is opposite your venus... while this is a signal for attraction, it will also signifies a block between her emotional energy, and your romantic energy. These energies are very different.

Her sun is opposed by your Saturn, Uranus, Neptune... UM DIFFICULT. This is where she will feel blocked from you. Her identity will feel opposed by your personal planets... She will see you as someone who stands in the way of her personal achievments, someone who is confusing, if not unpredictable. Your planets are in the 4th and 5th house sectors. Perhaps she is even frightened by giving over to a relationship and the prospect of motherhood... this could be a common issue between a 10th house career opposition to the house of motherhood, home and romance.

Her moon is opposite your Mars. Another aspect of attraction, however, another area where there could be contention... perhaps she finds you to be a bit too elusive, and this is threatening to her... she is not able to emotionally resonate with the way you handle your drive - there is something unpredictable and unclear about it. This would threaten her emotions.

Her Uranus is opposite your Mercury and Jupiter... from 3rd house...You're going to find her to be erratic as well... in terms of her mind and independence. Basically, her point of view will be quite shocking to you, at times. This could be interesting, but overall, not a great thing to have for common, practical, everyday communication needed in a relationship.

Lastly, her Pluto squares your Venus and Mars... While she could become quite attached to you, maybe in a very deep way, these squares signify abrupt and completely unexpected ends to your Venus and Mars energy. The combination of her Uranus and Pluto placements indicate that she may feel justified in unexpectedly ending your relationship at anytime - OR that the relationship comes to a halt for reasons beyond both of your control.

Pluto squares are not good No pun intended.

P.S. also the chiron involvement seems to indicate some pain involved in this relationship. Either that you talk quite a bit about pain together, or that you can actually be an element of pain within her life.

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posted June 29, 2011 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The composite mirrors the same effects in that Pluto squares the Venus placement, and that Uranus and Saturn lie in the 4th house.

This is not a relationship that will yield stability and free-flowing happiness at home.

The home, if it develops, will require a lot of structure, planning and seriousness, while Uranus uproots it all...

I just don't see this relationship as being successful. But, Just my opinion.

Ask any more questions, and I promise to answer quickly

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posted June 29, 2011 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're really good, PS.

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posted June 29, 2011 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
You're really good, PS.

Thank you, Randall

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posted June 29, 2011 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrabMan89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi PlutoSquared
I really didn't expect any new replies to this topic, it's been a long time. I do appreciate your time and effort.
Yeah I still got the blues for my Cancer girl.
I noticed you focused more on the negative aspects, which leads me to ask you these questions:
Is there any escape route for those negative aspects?
Do transits play any role in this? do they make it better or worse?
Are these inevitable? is astrology inevitable?

About the chiron, I read somewhere that its involvement indicates some kind of wound that none of us has control over like, one partner has children or there is age difference between the two of us. In our case the latter is true, 3 years of age difference is her number 1 reason to reject me. and that bothers and hurts her feelings I guess.

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Lastly, her Pluto squares your Venus and Mars... While she could become quite attached to you, maybe in a very deep way, these squares signify abrupt and completely unexpected ends to your Venus and Mars energy. The combination of her Uranus and Pluto placements indicate that she may feel justified in unexpectedly ending your relationship at anytime - OR that the relationship comes to a halt for reasons beyond both of your control.

Seems familiar, on and off. Love and hate, although it's been love on my side always.

Thank you and thank you again.

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posted June 29, 2011 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I'll edit, and answer your remaining questions...

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posted June 29, 2011 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CrabMan89:
Hi PlutoSquared
I really didn't expect any new replies to this topic, it's been a long time. I do appreciate your time and effort.
Yeah I still got the blues for my Cancer girl.
I noticed you focused more on the negative aspects, which leads me to ask you these questions:
Is there any escape route for those negative aspects?
Do transits play any role in this? do they make it better or worse?
Are these inevitable? is astrology inevitable?

I hate to believe in pre-destination, the lack of freewill, but there is an undeniable theme of consistent accuracy in astrology that rings true for me, and has for years...

Probably the reason why I have tried many times to avoid looking at a composite or synastry chart for myself, because I know, likely, I will realize unavoidable things. For better or worse.

Synastry charts are very accurate. I don't believe there are any tried and true "escape routes" for bad aspects, but if you find any please email me here at PlutoSquared@linda-land.com because I'd like to know!

Many synastry charts have certain saving graces - most couples are a balance of positive and negative qualities and are able to work through those issues to reap the benefits of interaction.

However, as a rule of thumb, I do not pass over the squares and oppositions from Saturn, Uranus, Neptune & Pluto lightly.

My experience with these heavy planets is that there is no way around, really, say... a "Saturn square Mars" aspect in synastry, or a "Pluto square Venus"... those aspects WILL BE felt, even before you realize what you're feeling... and they will be with you the entire way, sort of like running a race with a camel tied to your back.

You may actually finish the race, but you may become crippled in the process

Which is why I tell you that I feel this relationship will not last.

Both the synastry and composite are filled with unfortunate aspects from more than a few slow moving planets to vulnerable communication and love aspects within each other's charts - the relationship could prove to be an uphill battle the entire way...

However, I'm just one "astrology-reading-old-hippie-lady" with a hobby of astrology and it's up to you whether or not you take my advice.

That's your freewill in all of this... to learn and to live, and love, however you feel compelled to...To do what you want.

And, believe me, with the venus/pluto square in synastry, I UNDERSTAND the desire.

Transits WILL and DO play a role in the synastry and composite chart, but to my knowledge, not great enough of an influence to rewrite all the difficulty shown in synastry.

With a Composite Saturn + Uranus in the 4th house, you'd need Jupiter to transit and come to a halt in your livingroom to not notice the effects.

Anyways, Crabman, if I were you, I'd wait and keep looking. There are a billion fish in the sea, and if you're lucky, half of them might be really beautiful pisces women!

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