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tenny22
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posted June 12, 2011 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
OK
Just to start
You have Venus conjunct Mars-exact.Tell me how that feels, please.

The moon opposes this which must be hard but please,first tell me how you perceive Mars in exact conjunction with Venus?



I think that my mars conjunct venus is a major aspect in my life. I am indeed in love with being in love. I live and breath it. No matter what else is going on in my life I feel that I am not balanced if I am not in a relationship. The past few years, I've tried not to be so aggressive and assertive in relationships... compromising more, being more "feminine". I've also tried to give 100% and not to be embedded in who I'm seeing... it has been a constant adjustment. Before, I would feel like that person was not "the one" or not up to the full potential or something was "missing". I didn't understand it, but realized, it could not be every guy, every relationship so maybe it was my approach. I can be dominating to some extent. I want what I want, when I want it. But I do take the other person into consideration. My main controversy with this aspect is that I feel LONELY and incomplete, and I have such a full and blessed life, but if I am not in a relationship, I actually feel lonely. That is frustrating because it makes no sense.

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posted June 12, 2011 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
OK Also clarify your QUESTION so we can attack that.
Please ask a clear and defined question and we can go about trying to see where the chart takes us for the answer


Okay, honing down my question (after having done some soul searching lately):

Why are my relationships failing and how can I avoid this going forward? I've been giving 110% in my relationships, evaluating and re-evaluating my approach to interacting. I was even reading the horoscopes recently because I had never dated a Libra. My most recent break (libra) up was totally unforeseen. The relationship prior to that (pisces) was with someone who as basically unattainable (venus squared moon?) and I realize that now. I need to know what to do to have a successful relationship... I'm tired of being alone. Thanks Ami (I know, I started venting there for a minute)

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posted June 12, 2011 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
If you are there this morning ,I will do yoga and be back and forth.




I will be around this afternoon and the evening, will check back to the thread periodically. Enjoy your day and thanks again.

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posted June 12, 2011 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok Darling
You are my kind of girl cuz you want to be real.
I will meditate on your chart today and be back and forth!
Tell me the degrees of Eros, Valentine ,Eris ,Nessus , Deja and Aphrodite too
I may ask for some more asteroids later

Better yet---go to the ASteroid Forum when you have a chance and see which asteroids are prominent.
This can wait .We have a long way to go.
If you want to get the degrees of the ones I mentioned that would be good, though

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posted June 12, 2011 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PLEASE Vent away.It will help me feel out the situation.
If you know me, you know I am a serious venter

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posted June 12, 2011 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't feel out Mars conjunct Venus.
Does it make your Venus TOO aggressive ?
Does it make your Venus too Mars like i.e with too much drive rather than Venus like which attracts?

Please answer that .

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posted June 12, 2011 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I have one root of your problem .Chiron oppose Pluto--exact.

I don't think you want either of these things NEAR each other.
Chiron is the wound which never heals.It is a part of us that oozes.We can heal others but we will carry pain,still.

You have to balance THIS with your primal nature, your deep tiger primitive part.
Let me think about this for a bit.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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posted June 12, 2011 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To add to that Chiron is in the 5th in Pisces.
Neptune is in the 1st.
The 5th house is your joy of life,fun,romance and creativity.
Chiron would put a damper on this.

Now the ruler of the 5th is in the 1st.This is the Mert aspect.
You seem Cassanova like.You approach life as a romantic person wanting to have a good time.
Am I right?
Are you a female Cassanova lol

If so, that would be one part of you to put in the mix.

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posted June 12, 2011 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just looking at the Nodes.You have the NN in the 8th in Gemini.
My SN is there so I understand this placement.
You NEED to go deep inside and confront who you are under the surface.
Since it is in Gemini, you may need to express it, too.
However,what is interesting is that you have the juxtoposition of two things now.

You have the Cassanova thang goin on lol
You have pain in the house of joy and fun.
You have the life purpose of looking within.

Then your Venus is too aggressive ,perhaps.
Does Mars conjunct Venus make an uber Aries Venus?

I am gonna do a thread on it in Astro 2

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posted June 12, 2011 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You only have one fire planet which is your moon in Leo. A Leo moon is a romantic:more evidence for the Cassanova/romantic part of you.
It opposes your Mars/Venus conjunction--Ouch!

I would say you crave Fire.Are you attracted to fire people-men and woman?
Do you feel a lack of enthusiasm,drive,courage,directness and boldness in yourself?

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posted June 12, 2011 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not gonna do the moon and it's opposition to the Mars/Venus conjunction until we talk about the other things I mentioned.
If not, we will get too much information going at the same time

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posted June 12, 2011 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I can't feel out Mars conjunct Venus.
Does it make your Venus TOO aggressive ?
Does it make your Venus too Mars like i.e with too much drive rather than Venus like which attracts?

Please answer that .



Yes, a lot of drive, the aggression is there, I try to internalize it

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posted June 12, 2011 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
To add to that Chiron is in the 5th in Pisces.
Neptune is in the 1st.
The 5th house is your joy of life,fun,romance and creativity.
Chiron would put a damper on this.

Now the ruler of the 5th is in the 1st.This is the Mert aspect.
You seem Cassanova like.You approach life as a romantic person wanting to have a good time.
Am I right?
Are you a female Cassanova lol

If so, that would be one part of you to put in the mix.


LOL! Yes, I have felt that in the past, and I resist it. I feel the cassanova power, and I resist it, but there was a time I did not, and it was fun but unrealistic

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posted June 12, 2011 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awww Good
We are on the right track!!!

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posted June 12, 2011 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You only have one fire planet which is your moon in Leo. A Leo moon is a romantic:more evidence for the Cassanova/romantic part of you.
It opposes your Mars/Venus conjunction--Ouch!

I would say you crave Fire.Are you attracted to fire people-men and woman?
Do you feel a lack of enthusiasm,drive,courage,directness and boldness in yourself?



I am drawn to fire, and get along well with fire signs because of their strength. I feel a need for enthusiasm, but I have strong drive, steady courage, pretty direct and I temper down the boldness cause I come across as arrogant. I steamroll, but I do like to be nice to people

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posted June 12, 2011 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok Darling
You are my kind of girl cuz you want to be real.
I will meditate on your chart today and be back and forth!
Tell me the degrees of Eros, Valentine ,Eris ,Nessus , Deja and Aphrodite too
I may ask for some more asteroids later

Better yet---go to the ASteroid Forum when you have a chance and see which asteroids are prominent.
This can wait .We have a long way to go.
If you want to get the degrees of the ones I mentioned that would be good, though



I'm going to start getting these for you now

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posted June 12, 2011 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Awww Good
We are on the right track!!!


Woo-Hoo!!

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posted June 12, 2011 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok I am feeling there will be SOME asteroid clues.
Asteroids are very personal

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posted June 12, 2011 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With the asteroids,only tell me exact conjunctions(up to 2 degrees) with planets or angles.

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posted June 12, 2011 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am curious which asteroids you have on the ASC and DSC

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posted June 12, 2011 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have Taurus on the 7th house cusp and Venus in the 4th.
This is opposite your Cassanova part.

This wants you and your partner to snuggle in the home and kind of hide out.

So,I am getting a picture of the Cassanova on the OUTSIDE,only.

Inside, your fun and romantic side has Chiron touching it.
Inside, you feel pain associated with romance.
Is that right?
Did ANYTHING happen in your life to make you feel that way?

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posted June 12, 2011 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay: I found them all except for Deja. Here they are:

Eros 3 Ari 4'35"
Valentine 14 Aqu 11'6"
Eris 10 Ari 26'13"
Nessus 4 Gem 58'0"r
Aphrodite 15 Cap 42'23"

I will go to Asteroid thread now. Be right back.

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posted June 12, 2011 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You have Taurus on the 7th house cusp and Venus in the 4th.
This is opposite your Cassanova part.

This wants you and your partner to snuggle in the home and kind of hide out.

So,I am getting a picture of the Cassanova on the OUTSIDE,only.

Inside, your fun and romantic side has Chiron touching it.
Inside, you feel pain associated with romance.
Is that right?
Did ANYTHING happen in your life to make you feel that way?


Yes, yes, yes. The cassanova was a costume, but almost like the mask that gets stuck on your face and you can't get it off. I was hurting people who were hurting me... that's what it boiled down to. But then I learned to use my power for good, not evil, and I embraced the snuggling part because, well, snuggling felt better than hurting people. It seem to set me free in that respect. But the relationships still were not working out, and I was hurt. No pain during casanova phases though.

The pain in my life was (what I viewed as) rejection. In my want what I want mode, if there was I guy I wanted, I could compete, get in there, but for some reason it doesn't work out, he's not as into me as I am into him (hmmmm, this sounds familiar!!!), and being young and innocent, I never go the lay of the land in this regard. Really no one to discuss it with me because the women in my family were not expressive about this kind of stuff, love & relationships. I was all out there on my own, stumbling and falling through love.

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posted June 12, 2011 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am curious which asteroids you have on the ASC and DSC


Don't see any asteroids listed on the asc or dsc, let me try a different chart

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posted June 12, 2011 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are so open--a girl after my own heart.We will figure it out,I hope,little by little

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