posted June 07, 2011 07:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
WOW NL
These asteroids are killer

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posted June 13, 2011 11:08 AM            

I've been trying to work out how my t-square manifests itself. I don't know if you're very familiar with those, but what are your thoughts on having Nessus opposite Jupiter filling in the missing leg of the t-square/making a grand cross?

posted June 13, 2011 12:23 PM            

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Originally posted by northernlad:
Hey Ami,

I've been trying to work out how my t-square manifests itself. I don't know if you're very familiar with those, but what are your thoughts on having Nessus opposite Jupiter filling in the missing leg of the t-square/making a grand cross?

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Hmm
Hi NL
Missed talking to you
I am not familiar with chart shapes.It cannot be good lol
Let me think of it and see if I can get some insights!

posted June 13, 2011 01:07 PM            

I'm just going to ramble a bit because that's how I tend to work through things.

Perhaps you could talk about what Nessus opposite Jupiter would entail. T-squares and Grand Crosses are made up of squares and oppositions, so I would assume it's a matter of looking at each piece of them and putting the puzzle together.

For the t-square, Venus and Saturn oppose each other and are squared by Jupiter. They say the point opposite the planet being squared is a very sensitive area of focus. The fact that Nessus is there is what's intriguing to me.

What I've worked out so far between Venus, Jupiter and Saturn is that Venus/Jupiter causes me to be prone to living beyond my means (yes) and Saturn/Jupiter introduces a possibility of self-doubt and Saturn/Venus creates love frustration; Like RuPaul says, "If you can't love yourself, how in the hell are you gonna love anybody else?" That quote symbolizes the Saturn/Venus opposition to me. So I guess to interpret the t-square, you'd have to combine all that bearing in mind that Jupiter is taking the brunt of it.

posted June 13, 2011 05:02 PM            

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Originally posted by northernlad:
Haaaaaay gurl

I'm just going to ramble a bit because that's how I tend to work through things.

Perhaps you could talk about what Nessus opposite Jupiter would entail. T-squares and Grand Crosses are made up of squares and oppositions, so I would assume it's a matter of looking at each piece of them and putting the puzzle together.

For the t-square, Venus and Saturn oppose each other and are squared by Jupiter. They say the point opposite the planet being squared is a very sensitive area of focus. The fact that Nessus is there is what's intriguing to me.

What I've worked out so far between Venus, Jupiter and Saturn is that Venus/Jupiter causes me to be prone to living beyond my means (yes) and Saturn/Jupiter introduces a possibility of self-doubt and Saturn/Venus creates love frustration; Like RuPaul says, "If you can't love yourself, how in the hell are you gonna love anybody else?" That quote symbolizes the Saturn/Venus opposition to me. So I guess to interpret the t-square, you'd have to combine all that bearing in mind that Jupiter is taking the brunt of it.

I haven't started thinking about the house placements. The aspects in general are enough to make me twitch, haha.

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Darling
You share with me more on this. Then we can go though it together.
Do you have anything else more to add before I meditate on it?

posted June 13, 2011 05:39 PM            

The stress created by the opposition manifests itself in the house that the squared planet inhabits. I have Jupiter in the 2nd house, and Jupiter is my chart ruler. In order to balance out the stress in the 2nd, something about the 8th is important. I'm guessing if a transit opposes my natal Jupiter or maybe someone in synastry has something opposite Jupiter.

posted June 13, 2011 06:26 PM            

If I hadn't bumped this thread I wouldn't have done all the research I did. That link I posted said that if the apex planet (Jupiter in this case) is in Aquarius it signifies "innovative ideas but little or no energy for manifestation." And I think having very little fire in my chart means I have to FORCE myself to do stuff. And I think this is why rambling on a message board such as this helps force me to think things through.

ANYWHO, what I'm gathering about this particular configuration is that it's focused on a conflict in relationships for me, and it manifests itself by effecting my material possessions/money. The first example that pops into my mind is my relationship with my father. He's very well off, spoils the hell out of his daughter with his new wife, but my sister and I are an afterthought. He was never around much, and getting him to pay for anything (school, car, etc.) was like trying to get blood from a stone. We see other people our age with fathers who made just as much money as ours and they got to go to fancier schools and drive nice cars. Every site I read that talks about t-squares talk about how they impose many obstacles, but also instill the focus and determination to overcome those obstacles, and are found in many charts of rich, famous and successful people. In this case with my father, we don't have a relationship because I decided to stop trying (very recently) to get him to be the father he never was, and I've recently found some clarity as far as what to do with my life, and I'm going to work my ass off to fulfill that goal without his help.

posted June 14, 2011 11:48 AM            

I found:
ASC sextile Makemake
ASC trine Cyllarus
ASC sextile Asbolus
ASC square Klotho
ASC square Hekate
ASC sextile Siwa
ASC trine Atlantis

posted June 14, 2011 12:27 PM            

Mercury conj Castor
(The site IQ posted in your fixed star thread gives this interpretation: With Mercury: Remarkable psychic powers entailing criticism and ridicule but eventual prominence, unfavorable for gain. (Robson).)

Saturn conj UNUKALHAI: With Saturn: Secret insanity, drug taker, secret crime and poisoning often for no reason, shrewd, cunning, intelligent, studious, often physician or nurse, usually unmarried, may commit suicide or be confined in an asylum or prison. (Robson)

ASC conj Sarin: Rising:

Hercules, the figure on bended knee and called by the Greek name of Engonasin, about whose origin no certainty prevails. Of this constellation is begotten the desertion, craftiness, and deceit characteristic of its children, and from it comes the thug who terrorizes the heart of the city. If perchance his mind is moved to consider a profession, Engonasin will inspire him with enthusiasm for risky callings, with danger the price for which he will sell his talents: daring narrow steps on a path without thickness he will plant firm feet on a horizontal tightrope; then, as he attempts an upward route to heaven, (on a sloping tightrope) he will all but lose his footing and, suspended in mid-air, he will keep a multitude in suspense upon himself. (Manilus, book 5 of Astronomica, 1st century AD).

posted June 14, 2011 03:55 PM            

PS Bring on Mommy issues.Let's bond

posted June 14, 2011 05:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Your Chiron is on my Venus too lol
Ok ,so YOUR Chiron is on your Mom's Venus.Let me ask you this?
I am trying to figure out what the Chiron person feels and what the Venus person feels.
Can you please tell me how you perceive this?

PS Bring on Mommy issues.Let's bond

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Yay mommy issues

I feel like she treats me like I'm a neglectful husband! She has a much better relationship with my sister and doesn't really ask much of her, whereas with me it's like everything I do isn't good enough. I feel like I can't win with her, because she wants me to read her mind. "I shouldn't have to tell you," is her favorite line. I tell her constantly, if you need me to do anything, TELL ME. And then inevitably she doesn't and gets pissy when whatever isn't done. She kind of has this attitude that men are pigs, and I don't know if it's because of my parents' messy divorce, or if she's had that ideal from earlier on. Her dad was a physically abusive alcoholic, so I don't doubt she has emotional issues, but I don't feel emotion from her unless it's anger or annoyance. We don't really talk much and I never have heart to heart conversations with her. She's also one of the most pessimistic people I know, which just does not jive with my much more optimistic outlook.

That's our relationship in a nutshell

I'm going to have to think about how it would relate to Venus and Chiron. I feel like she kind of stifled my creative, imaginative side. When I was younger, I loved playing Barbies with my sister, and my mother would catch us playing and yell at me, so right off the bat in life I felt like it wasn't okay to be myself.