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1vanz
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posted July 16, 2011 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1vanz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami, here is the synastry between my father and I. I couldn't remember where I got the synastry aspects from last time, so these are probably much harder to look at If it's too much for you, I will find a better way to list them. By all means take as much time as you want with this, there's no rush for me to try and understand him lol

Thanks so much


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1vanz
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posted July 16, 2011 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1vanz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will give you some background information... (or a huge rant if you will)

I think the majority of my negative feelings towards him spawn from the 'abrasiveness' he has on me.. for instance, he smokes weed.
I hate this, it makes him forgetful even more than normal, talk incessantly about random stuff, and voice every single thought that comes into his mind like "where did i put my hat.. i think this milk might be off... does this pen work?"

Then there are the monologues.. I just had to sit though one just then. I contribute so minimally, like "yeah".. "well maybe that's not a good idea".. "really".. and if i keep doing this, he will talk non stop, and i mean non stop. I'm usually on my computer doing something so I'm only half paying attention..

I'm being rude, I know, but he can't get the hint that he's being excessively intrusive and irrespective of my privacy, on top of being a jabbermouth on stuff that with any amount of thought, he would realise that I probably don't care.. For example, the ingredients in his salad he bought today.. the work he did outside with the machete.. SURE these things are normal to talk about, but when they are built up on top of each other day in day out, for years, what reasonable person couldn't find them annoying to talk about every hour of every day. There is an element of modesty and non-announcement of every doing that he severely lacks when talking to people.

He is a hermit of sorts, his best friends he see's rarely, but speaks to them on the phone all the time. He goes into town almost every day, but he has no true friends from there. I GET that I am suppose to be one of his best friends that he can talk to about things, but it's like he is so deprived of that in the other areas of his life that he makes up for it 100 fold by flooding me with it. I can't be the person to stop what I'm doing and have a conversation that could well last for hours about incredibly trivial stuff, and stuff that ONLY relates to himself and his doings.. barely ever will he ask something about me, and if he does it will be one question and then it will never have a follow up.

It's like he's an introvert when he leaves home, but as soon as he gets home he's the opposite and directs it at me.

This is only one of the areas of the relationship that are testing.. Another includes matters of cleanliness (he's a pig, and if I didn't clean up after him the house would be a pig-sty). I tell him to clean something of his and it won't get done, purely because he balks at taking orders. Almost everything turns into an argument or some sort of shift of blame. The way he talks to me is completely disrespectful. For instance, he wants me to make a fire.. "MAKE THE FIRE".. I bring home lots of fire-wood, "You should have brought more wood".. The fire I made is dying, and we've been putting wood on it throughout the day.. "IVAN YOU LET THE FIRE DIE".. why blame?? etc.. And all the good I do is not usually noticed, only the bad is noticed and amplified in a way where he tries to make himself look better by blaming me for my mistake or something.. that's just how i feel..

He lacks motivation or drive to do anything, this doesn't affect me so much, but it affects my feelings towards him.. I feel like he is constantly slipping down hill, work piles up for him, things are shelved, projects started and never finished, plans vocalized and never followed through.. Nothing I say can change this side of him, and I think it creates a bit of a lack of respect for him on my part. I think he expects me to be the partner for everything, i.e. he needs me to go outside and work on something with him, he needs me to be there to watch him fix something.. etc.. like just my presence is motivational or something.

I feel like if I wasn't here he would slip deeper into depression and waste away. I have deep sympathy for him and his loneliness, but I can't let that restrict my own life's path and I understand that, albeit with a little guilt. I want him to get up and make a new life for himself, but he is horribly stubborn and lazy.

Once I move out from here I believe that everything will be easier for me, but not for him. He has his own issues that need sorting out... Anyway, ending my rant..

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Ami Anne
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posted July 16, 2011 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for all of this Darling. I will look

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted July 16, 2011 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So Ivantz
Do you have Nessus conj Mercury?

Also you and have father has nessus conjunct Sedna
Would you look up Sedna for me and put it says here?
I know Sedna is a baddie.You don't want Nessus near it so this could be part of your trouble

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Ami Anne
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posted July 16, 2011 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Mars and Chiron is on your DCS which is interesting.
HOW would this play out if he was your father not a relationship for example?
Help someone lol

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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1vanz
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From: NSW, Australia
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posted July 16, 2011 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1vanz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh lordy.. Those asteroid line-ups sound horrible.. Here is an article I found about sedna, I think it has something to do with being the victim.
http://thegreenduck.com/ka/NewPlanets/Sedna-meaning.shtml

From the table, I think I do have nessus conjunct mercury..? I am probably reading it wrong though lol.

Thanks for giving me your attention Ami <3

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1vanz
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posted July 18, 2011 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1vanz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't take living here anymore.. the bitterness I feel just being here is unbearable..

I'll tell you what set my mood over the edge; I cleaned the whole kitchen last morning, when I got home it was a mess. The next day has dishes of his piling up already, ants crawling over the table, rubbish everywhere. Floor has dirt everywhere from his shoes which he never takes off when he comes inside.

Another thing; When I'm trying to get to sleep he plays loud bassy music which pulses through the whole house. The anger alone keeps me awake for an hour. I have told him to turn it off but he does the opposite of what I say all the time, balks at taking any request. In the mornings, no respect. He whistles, makes obscene high pitched noises that wake me up, bangs and bumps around, I can't sleep from 6:30 onwards a lot of the time. Resorted to buying ear plugs that don't muffle much.

Another thing; Whenever I get home from work, the talking starts. "I'm going to make some popcorn. It's so cheap and easy. blah blah blah. This gas stove is so handy. I bought so much corn. I could plant this and it will grow. But last time the rats ate it. We have rats in our air-conditioning. Oh we can't use that much by the way, it uses too much electricity. Oh and remember to take short showers. ETC ON AND ON. Nothing aimed at me, no inquiry, nothing constructive.

Another thing; He calls me at least once when I'm out asking me where I am and when I'll be home, (every time) and then some story about his work or something. Overbearing much!

Another thing; He leaves our cat outside sometimes and forgets he's done it, making me worry and worry and have to try and find her. We live on a property and it's dangerous for her to be out without supervision.

Another thing; When I need something of his, like his camera, flash-light, etc.. it's always a struggle to even find it because he loses everything under the piles and piles of mess he has everywhere.

I can't take living with this, it's depressing me. It's disrupting the balance inside me so much so, that I can't even talk to him. If I try to talk with him about any of it I'm sure he will turn it on me and say it's my attitude. I'm thinking one day I will just start packing my things and leave a huge note. I don't know. I can't talk to him.

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Ami Anne
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posted July 18, 2011 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aww Darling
I will concentrate on you,today.Write me all that is going on too

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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1vanz
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posted July 18, 2011 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1vanz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bah.. I dunno Ami.. it's just the situation I'm in, living with a half man half ape. I don't know if doing any astrology will help really.. i'll never understand him..

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1vanz
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posted July 18, 2011 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1vanz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, I think he understood something about my silences.. half of the bathroom counter was wiped down. Now all of a sudden I feel some element of guilt. To be honest, I don't know what I wanted to achieve writing this stuff down on here.. Maybe I just wanted to vent it out to someone. That's all I will deal with this somehow. I'm thinking I just move out anyway even with my money problems. It will be a tight budget, but anything beats being a victim of this household!

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Ami Anne
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posted July 18, 2011 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK
Gonna look at your chart .
Please look up Varuna and Orchus.Put the info ,here.You have those prominent with your father.

you have Nessus conj Mercury as I said.I will explain more later on this.
You may have Nessus conj Mars.I will have to check degrees.

However,you have Merc,Nessus,Mars and the Sun in the 5th house.
Your father's 1st house overlays your 5th.

I think this is important. I need to meditate on it, though.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted July 18, 2011 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For you, with Nessus conj Mercury,you are a Nessus person we shall say lol
You are gonna be forced to face Nessus which is the darkest side of human nature.

Have you always been fascinated with evil and dark things?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted July 18, 2011 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have not read your description yet.I am gonna look at the chart ,first.
His Uranus is in your 2nd house.You have quite a few things in the 2nd.
I think he shakes up your ideas on material security and how to get it in this life.
Am I right?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted July 18, 2011 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Eris is conj your Pallas. I have to remember what Pallas is.I think it is the wise woman. I will have to check but any close asteroid connection is important.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted July 18, 2011 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your father has Chiron conj Mars. Has he had a lot of pain associated with his drive> Has he been stifled or stymied in his attempts to achieve in life?
Has his achievements come with great pain associated with them?
I have a feeling this is so.Maybe ,that is why he rides you so much.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 18, 2011 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have NN conj MC. Your path involves doing something public or out there.
This may be part of your current angst.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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1vanz
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posted July 18, 2011 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1vanz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami I'm about to email you.

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