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Topic: Dissect My Mars?
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RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 24, 2011 11:52 PM
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m536/DingerHarbringer/DsBirthchartImage.jpg In case anything is unclear, it is in Leo, the 10th House. It squares Venus-Sun-Jupiter-Pluto, sextiles Ascendant-Mercury. It conjuncts my Part of Fortune, if that is significant in any way. So, any ideas? What does this have to say about me? IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 273 From: Australia Registered: May 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 01:29 AM
Hi red this is great, it's nice that you ask for a specific focus, makes a nice change. I will get my teeth into this for you soon. Just want to finish something else first sass IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 01:32 AM
Oh, by all means, take your time. C:And thanks for this contribution - and others. Thanks a lot. IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 273 From: Australia Registered: May 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 01:57 AM
Your mars is in the 10th house, so it is most obvious, and comes into most action when you are playing your role within the community as a whole. This includes you as a contributor to society in the area of work.Your mars is square many planets in the first house. This is significant for some outstanding reasons: 1) The first house represents how we interact with others - it's kind of like the platform, or the interface between us and others, so, again, it will affect your ability to assimilated harmoneously with others, and the outside world. 2) Your ascendant is Scorpio, mars is a co-ruler (with pluto) of scorpio, so, adding emphasis to the factors above 2) Your mars squares it's co-ruler, pluto here so again, adding emphasis to the focus above The issue I see here is great tension with your mars, ie, all those squares, and there's somewhat of a feedback loop whereby the energy loops in on itself: you assert yourself, or make a move for what you want, but you encounter power struggles(pluto), and challenges to your self esteem(venus) and confidence(sun), which makes you frustrated, them maybe angry, which then again, trugger your pluto(more power struggles and maybe full-on explosive anger), then you feel bad.
How does any of this sound Red lovie? Am I on the right track? Shall I continue? IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 02:48 AM
If I could purr, I would! Just one thing...my Ascendant is Libra.So does that mean, instead of having challenges with other people, I'd have challenges with my material world? But yes! I'll set out on a venture, such as trying to create or design things, then I'll be very unsure whether it's acceptable or not. I'll put something I've made out there or even just pitch my idea, but have such little confidence (though I do tend to make up for it with charisma and people skills-ish). Yes, if you want, do go on. I am LOVING this! IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 273 From: Australia Registered: May 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 03:04 AM
You would purr because...?Yes, yes, your ass is libra, but, because scorp is on the cusp sort of intercepting there, it is relevant. I believe can you say more about whether I'm on track - explosive, arguing, power struggles, tension, anger, frustration? I want to make sure I'm barking up the right tree IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 03:20 AM
I'll let you figure that out yourself, and if you can't, then it will be a secret.But 18'47" Libra isn't close to Scorpio...or...is it? D: I'm confused. Maybe this is a chart you aren't used to reading? On topic, yes, all those words would apply, but I really try my best to work things out. I will feel those things building up inside me, but I'll try to talk things out or compromise, etc. Yes, I will be frustrated, yes, I will be angry, but despite that, I will really try to work it out and avoid those fits. IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 273 From: Australia Registered: May 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 03:25 AM
Of course, of course, your ass is in Libra And, there are "links" in your chart that provide outs to these challenges. I was going to get to them. The scorp thing is relavent. Your may well be confused IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 03:29 AM
Okay, I apologize for such a conflict.Everything you said was spot-on, regardless. IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 03:34 AM
OH! OH OH OH! SASSAQUA, I NOW UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN. I AM SOOOO SORRY FOR GIVING YOU TROUBLE. REALLY.I feel so ashamed now... IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 273 From: Australia Registered: May 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 03:52 AM
No no Red! Not at all honey I was being playful, I don't mean anything by anything You no trouble at at (Is that an example of you feeling bad after I wonder? ) IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 03:58 AM
Yes, it is! I just feel so bad, I want to throw myself at the person and cry! Buuuuut, if you say so, then I must believe you...right?Once again, thank you a lot. I really appreciate this...really. EDIT - How "coincidental" is it that I was being playful as well? IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 273 From: Australia Registered: May 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 04:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by RedScorp: Yes, it is! I just feel so bad, I want to throw myself at the person and cry! Buuuuut, if you say so, then I must believe you...right?
If I say so what red? Can you elaborate on this please? Anything I say - or anyone else - I don't think you "must believe". I don't think this is so. Use this as an exercise to bounce ideas off someone and get objective feedback for yourself. It will lead you to more self-reflection and self learning. You decide in the end what is accurate or not. I am still learning about astrology, this helps me to learn too. Ok? Just my thoughts IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 04:12 AM
I mean, if you say I was no trouble, then I shouldn't think I was trouble, right?You were being honest, I can tell. I have knack for detecting lies. It's not so good over the internet, but in person, lies are like a flashing red light to me. And yes, I came to these forums to try and learn more. I read about others charts and my own, not just to learn more about that person or myself, but what the planets and aspects and houses...what everything does, pretty much. IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 273 From: Australia Registered: May 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 04:17 AM
Having said that, taking a closer look, your Jupiter, Pluto and Sun are falling in the 2nd it looks like.As it is 2nd, you likely don't come across immediately as aggressive or fiesy or anything, as you might if it was in the 1st. I think what I've said still applies however, my reasoning being that, your mars is in the 10th, and it is aspecting these planets, and affecting your status in the outside world and your ability to make smooth interactions due to much tension and feelings of confrontation and competitiveness. It is just not immediately apparent when people meet you (as would be if was inthe 1st). Because of the hits to the second then, it means that, it influences your ability to make money, build resources for yourself, definitely affects your own feelings of self worth. Your feelings of optimism can be too much and you can overstretch, and the power, and fury issues still apply. IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 273 From: Australia Registered: May 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 04:20 AM
No reason to lie, and no, no trouble at all IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 04:26 AM
Hmmmmm...That all sounds quite right. But optimism...that's one thing that I don't agree with.I'm very optimistic and generally a happy person. It borders on unrealistic. I'm also excitable and playful, so maybe I've resolved the power and fury issues? Also, self worth...I feel much more secure knowing that, for example, someone likes me more than someone else. Is that the issue presenting itself? I can lose confidence when I'm not sure how I compare to others. I read that squares and opposites can be made into an advantage from a disadvantage. Is it possible I have done that? IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 273 From: Australia Registered: May 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 04:35 AM
I made an edit above. Over optimism is possible, and over spending.You probably are playful etc, these planets we are talking about are getting happy vibes from uranus/neptune/moon. So this makes sense. It's just, I'm thinking, maybe at work? You have confrontations, or, you are over assertive. This may well work - depending what field you are in, eg, a professional boxer of something But I'm thinking that it is causing you some issue and you would perhaps like to find the ""key" to making this work for you, instead of tripping you up? Is this right? I could be compleeetly wrong The interesting thing you have wwith your chart, is that, in the 4 areas where your planets have gathered, there are "mixed messages": they are receiving challenging aspects AND easy aspects. So, maybe you just get going, feeling all optimistic with your idea and inspirations, but then you meet a wall - often in the form of a confrontation with someone. Your boss? Your dad or mum when you were young? People in authority? trachers at school? These are all 10th house. IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 04:47 AM
Once I'm going, I usually can't tell when to stop. And yes, I always take the lead or take the position of power. I'm like, never opposed...people just go along with my ideas or my lead.Hmmmm...as much as it would be cool to find out how to make these work for me, I kinda want to make them work for me myself (if that makes sense). Walls, walls, I'm trying to think of walls...I usually don't encounter a wall to my inspirations, as I always push them right through to the finish. Maybe the wall is getting started, as I procrastinate a lot or feel uninspired in the first place. People can be confrontations, ESPECIALLY my mother. I usually assimilate them or convince them or compromise...but with my mother, we have it out and argue hardcore. I have yet to have a boss, lol. IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 273 From: Australia Registered: May 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 06:54 AM
Ok, what I was saying I didn't mean wall with your inspiration - that looks all good and is really another story Remember, we are talking and analysing your mars, yes? I meant you come up against confrontations - somewhere along the line - or, anger within yourself - tensions, etc, all the things we talked about earlier: power struggles - maybe YOU push other people if they assert to you. Maybe you overpower them on return, if people try to stand up to you, or who you perceive as competitive with you.Maybe you could tell me why you wanted to analyse your mars in the first place? Is there a reason you focused a thread on your mars specifically Red? IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 679 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 07:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: The issue I see here is great tension with your mars, ie, all those squares, and there's somewhat of a feedback loop whereby the energy loops in on itself: you assert yourself, or make a move for what you want, but you encounter power struggles(pluto), and challenges to your self esteem(venus) and confidence(sun), which makes you frustrated, them maybe angry, which then again, trugger your pluto(more power struggles and maybe full-on explosive anger), then you feel bad.
jeez this sounds like me too! without reading the planets. sometimes i lose my temper and feel bad for doing so.. IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 273 From: Australia Registered: May 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 07:56 AM
Probably everyone feels bad after sand.Explosive though? Do you get explosive? IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 679 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 25, 2011 08:47 AM
yeah i do get a lil bit russell crowe-ish from time to time. mars in first scorpio.iz cool ur a sun conj venus too red scorp but of cors urs is in scorpio.. mine's in taurus. ders a whole thread on it here somewhere. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 15457 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 25, 2011 08:53 AM
Thank you Sass for putting down the aspect behind your reasoning. I am learning so much IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 15457 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 25, 2011 08:58 AM
Sass Darling I did a thread in Astro 2 about this.Please explain how Venus is your self esteem? I never thought of it that way. Ohhh--wait --Sasportas says it is love of SELF and others.How you love yourself and how you love others.Is that what you meant Baby?IP: Logged | |