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gigi1977
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posted August 06, 2011 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gigi1977     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please help.. I have serious personality issues I'm trying to over come. Please let me know how best to deal with these issues given my chart. I am trying to learn how to read it and understand that the Saturn retrograde is a serious problem, as well as the Mars square Uranus.

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posted August 06, 2011 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Oliviaaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi.

No chart shows up hun.. I tried copy and pasting it and it didn't go no where either.

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posted August 06, 2011 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gigi1977     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Oliviaaa:
Hi.

No chart shows up hun.. I tried copy and pasting it and it didn't go no where either.


I fixed the problem.. thanks so much for reviewing! Gigi

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posted August 06, 2011 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Gigi

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posted August 06, 2011 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we can help you.Sun,Merc and Mars in the 12th house is a good start to seeing what is troubling you!

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posted August 06, 2011 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right now--in transit(planets in the sky) you have the planet of pain and the planet of deception touching these 12th house planets
That is prolly what is hurting so badly

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posted August 06, 2011 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Oliviaaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I think we can help you.Sun,Merc and Mars in the 12th house is a good start to seeing what is troubling you!

You're welcome Gigi! And I think we can help too, Ami.
That Mars opposite Saturn... ouch!

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posted August 06, 2011 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gigi1977     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Right now--in transit(planets in the sky) you have the planet of pain and the planet of deception touching these 12th house planets
That is prolly what is hurting so badly

I'm hurting terribly.. when will it stop?! I just had a bad break up, but I know he wasnt right or me, so I feel like I should know better than to feel like this. UGH.. If only the mind could take over the heart.


But there is something in my personality that is deeply flawed.. I never live up to my own expectations, much less others. I wish I could be less demanding of myself. whats wrong with me? How do I get over it?

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posted August 06, 2011 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gigi1977     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the warm welcome and the help, Ami Anne and Oliviaa.

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posted August 06, 2011 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have tidal waves in relationships and you have to learn and grow as a person as a result?

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posted August 06, 2011 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was your biggest life pain in not having material needs met?

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posted August 06, 2011 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gigi1977     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Was your biggest life pain in not having material needs met?

I guess when I was a kid there was an issue with material things which I think colored the way I view money, but I don't currently have any material problems (other than the normal bills). I'm actually fairly successful in that regard, so i can pay my bills will a little sacrifice.. which I dont really see as an major issue.

My issues are with relationships-- stemming from disappointing and overbearing parent figures whom I never could please. I know that its bleeding into by adult life, but don't know what in my personality wont allow me to get over that.

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posted August 06, 2011 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Oliviaaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some stuff is catchin' my eye... namely, the Moon in the 4th which is very stressed (square to Venus & Pluto, quincunx Mars & Neptune) I see how you had problems with your parents. A lot of pain from the childhood.
And Venus conjunct Chiron.. it's wide, but I'm going to count it. That brings the pain into all things dealing with love & relationships.

I'm going to look everything over, your transits as well.. and I'll get back to you later darlin.

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posted August 06, 2011 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gigi1977     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks so much! I look forward to it.

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posted August 07, 2011 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gigi1977     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Do you have tidal waves in relationships and you have to learn and grow as a person as a result?

Hi Ami Anne,
Yes I do have tidal waves.. I have a hard time saying no to friends and family. Then I begin to resent it and either retreat or lash out. I know I need to learn from that.

Any other observations?

Thanks so much.

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posted August 07, 2011 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gigi1977     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I updated my chart--was always told a 7:23am birth time, but when I received my BC, I noticed its 42 mins later.. I forgot to link to the updated chart in my original post. Just made the correction in the first post.
Also, here is more. I am having fun trying to analyze this stuff.

Here is more info:

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posted August 08, 2011 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gigi1977     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump?

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posted August 08, 2011 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Baby
I have Saturn Retro conj the ASC
I will look at your chart if you want to dialogue

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posted August 08, 2011 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun and Merc in the 12th in Pisces.The hardest thing of all bar none in the chart is 12th house planets
Lets discuss this first
Sun and Merc in Pisces in 12th
Do you feel you belong to the next world,the world of mysticsm, creativity?
Does this world make you feel raw?
Do you live in a fantasy world if you can lol

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posted August 09, 2011 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gigi1977     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Ami Anne..

Yes, yes, and YES! I find it very difficult coming down to earth. I know this sounds crazy, but as a child I often felt myself come out of my body.. for only seconds at a time, but on many many occasions. Sometimes, if I concentrate on it hard enough I can actually make myself do it,, although its been a while. (Hope I don't sound like a weirdo, but hey, you asked :-))

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posted August 09, 2011 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gigi1977     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am also quite clairvoyant.. but again.. it was much stronger when I was a child.

So yes, I'm extremely dreamy and very much half way in another universe.. OK,,, now I really sound strange.. but yeah, its true!

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posted August 09, 2011 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not weird Baby
I have OBE's and am psychic.
It is a real dimension
Some people can just touch it more easily than others

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posted August 09, 2011 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abcd efg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Sun and Merc in the 12th in Pisces.The hardest thing of all bar none in the chart is 12th house planets
Lets discuss this first
Sun and Merc in Pisces in 12th
Do you feel you belong to the next world,the world of mysticsm, creativity?
Does this world make you feel raw?
Do you live in a fantasy world if you can lol

Ami dear i hope you don't mind my butting in. But if i am not mistaken her Sun is in 1st Pisces and Merc and Mars are in 12th know?

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posted August 09, 2011 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gigi1977     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Not weird Baby
I have OBE's and am psychic.
It is a real dimension
Some people can just touch it more easily than others

Thanks, Ami Anne. I used to tell people about this stuff and they'd act like I was weird, so I think I still feel apprehensive about admitting it.. (I'm highly sensitive-- moon in cancer, 4th house). I'm glad to have this open and accepting forum!

So Sun and Merc in 12th house explains this.. good to know. Anything else about the aspects there that I should pay careful attention to? How does my Uranus retro in 8th House impact on this effect?

Also, what is the deal with Saturn retrograde in the 5th House, Leo? I hear its a doozie..

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posted August 09, 2011 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn in the 5th
is it really hard for you to relax and let your hair down

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