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Topic: Reading please!
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted August 28, 2011 02:36 PM
  
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Originally posted by Metid:
Well I know I never did anything really creative after that... Shame others have had to bear the brunt since!
Darling
The planet Chiron there shows your pain. This CAN be transformed through much effort 
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Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2011 02:49 PM
Tell me if there has been other pain in 5th house areas which are romance, creativity,hobbies and "fun"
I am thinking the 5th house Chiron may show other things as well.
If you do not care to comment further I understand ------------------
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Metid
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posted August 28, 2011 03:22 PM
Other things... I had an affair with a married women 23 years ago.. We were going to be together.. she ended it and I never really knew why till I got a letter some time later saying I was the father of twins. We got back together.. sadly she never told her now ex husband they weren't his.. After many broken promises of goingto tell him, she couldn't.. relationship broke down and she said it best I didn't see the children as he would find out... So... I told him... Truth hurts.. hurt me alot as when this happened they were just under 2 yrs old..she then moved away with them. Next time was when they were 7 for a day and same argument came up. It's Only recently (as in last 2 years) I found them. In contact with my son regulary but daughter believes only what her mother told her.. they now 22IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2011 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by Metid:
Other things... I had an affair with a married women 23 years ago.. We were going to be together.. she ended it and I never really knew why till I got a letter some time later saying I was the father of twins. We got back together.. sadly she never told her now ex husband they weren't his.. After many broken promises of goingto tell him, she couldn't.. relationship broke down and she said it best I didn't see the children as he would find out... So... I told him... Truth hurts.. hurt me alot as when this happened they were just under 2 yrs old..she then moved away with them. Next time was when they were 7 for a day and same argument came up. It's Only recently (as in last 2 years) I found them. In contact with my son regulary but daughter believes only what her mother told her.. they now 22
Oh My Goodness
Such pain around children. I am so sorry. I lost my son to death so I understand pain Sweetie
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Metid
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posted August 28, 2011 03:35 PM
But your pain of loss is so much greater than mine. That loss I am thankful I haven't had to experience! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2011 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by Metid:
But your pain of loss is so much greater than mine. That loss I am thankful I haven't had to experience!
Thank you Baby
My life now is one I want to be of service .
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Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2011 03:40 PM
Your ruler of the 5th is in the 11th
So you will take your creativity and bring it in to groups.Do you feel the urge to do that?
Are you attracted to any kinds of groups.If so ,please explain .IP: Logged |
Metid
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posted August 28, 2011 03:41 PM
Another thing that affected my creativity... I wanted to Go to Art and Drama college after secondary (High) school.
My father wouldn't allow it.. I had to get a 'proper job' IP: Logged |
Metid
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posted August 28, 2011 03:43 PM
What do you mean by groups Ami? I know creativity is and has always been there but now and how it'll be expressed is my stubbling block. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted August 28, 2011 03:50 PM
Hello, Metid, fellow Moon-Neptunian! I'm sorry for the sorrow you experienced regarding your children. Can I ask you to post your chart with Placidus house system? Why do you prefer equal? Do you think it suits you better? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2011 03:50 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Metid:
Another thing that affected my creativity... I wanted to Go to Art and Drama college after secondary (High) school.
My father wouldn't allow it.. I had to get a 'proper job'
I have never talked to anyone about a 5th house Chiron but yours is so classic for pain around these 5th house areas. If you had to look at all your life's pain would you say the 5th house was most of it? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2011 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by Metid:
What do you mean by groups Ami? I know creativity is and has always been there but now and how it'll be expressed is my stubbling block.
Yes
We are gonna need to deal with this slowly cuz it is a big area for you and the chart ALWAYS has answers.
The lack would be in the person reading such as myself.
However,between the two of us we should get places ! IP: Logged |
Metid
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posted August 28, 2011 03:53 PM
If it involves all that I've told you then yes completely!IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2011 03:54 PM
Well I have not looked at aspects yet.The chart is multi ,multi layered.
However,it shows that your creativity "wants" to be expressed in groups.
How would YOU say this? Perhaps drama could be groups.
IOW, it would be expressed within the context of a group.This could be a class for example such as a dram class or improv class.
Any other ideas.Think back over your life and see what you come up with.
I am playing my guitar and back and forth!IP: Logged |
Metid
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posted August 28, 2011 03:55 PM
Hi Hera... Only posted as equal as what is recommended.. Can post another.  IP: Logged |
Metid
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posted August 28, 2011 04:04 PM
Ami... Its been so long ago I actually did any drama.. was dragged on stage one day in last few years and was quite at home.How is your guitar playing? Mine terrible.. never practise enough!  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted August 28, 2011 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by Metid:
Ami... Its been so long ago I actually did any drama.. was dragged on stage one day in last few years and was quite at home.How is your guitar playing? Mine terrible.. never practise enough!
Mine is going really well.I have a great teacher and he wants to get me good so I am very fortunate! Think about the group thing though. Do you have the desire to DO your creativity in groups?
I am thinking of a dance troupe but I am not saying you are a dancer. I was just thinking that the Astrology points to the group thing as a link for your creativity.
We have a lot more to explore than just the groups though !
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Metid
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posted August 28, 2011 04:11 PM
Have done Salsa dancing in the past.. don't feel that dancing my best creative outlet though. Lessons is what I need for guitar.. working in various places and having to stay over makes it hard to commit to proper lessons for me IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted August 28, 2011 04:11 PM
Well, for some reason, I trust Placidus most, even though equal HS has proved some valid points for me, as well. But somehow, Placidus kind of tells it like it is. This puts your NN in the 5th, so you are bound to search for 5H matters and struggle until you get it done right. And since it's in Taurus, you should definitely go for arts. The trouble you had with your children could be indicated my 5H ruler in opposition to Saturn, placed in the 4th. Did your family have something to do with that? That opposition could also stand for your father being against you following the arts. But it is definitely your calling, yes. I shall be back, if for no other reason than your Pluto trining my Venus exactly. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted August 28, 2011 04:23 PM
By the way, you could find true love in a year or so. Solar Arc Sun will be conjunct Venus, which rules your DC. Definitely some romance time there. Did you date foreigners? Older partners? The block between career and creativity is shown by the square between Mercury (MC ruler) and Mars (5H ruler) + Saturn (co-ruler of your 3rd; also symbolic of the Father). They basically form a T-cross with the apex pointing to Mercury. IP: Logged |
Metid
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posted August 28, 2011 04:30 PM
Hera... Well my father blocking earlier years explained but you know how it is when you get commitments!... Have had relationships with more foreign partners than my own nationality.. never one very much older than me though IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted August 28, 2011 04:42 PM
R of 5th sq Ruler of 2nd
That could show you had to do something practical and not creative as you said IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 28, 2011 04:44 PM
Ok This is what I would say--You have a drive to be in groups but are pulled back by insecurity about your own creativity.
Would that fit? Do you want to belong but don't from insecurity?IP: Logged |
Metid
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posted August 28, 2011 04:44 PM
Ami... and now?... My mind and body says I'm creative.. I'm practical as we have to be! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted August 28, 2011 04:45 PM
Moon and Nep conj Scorpio ASCDo you wear your heart on your sleeve? Can you not hide your emotions very well even if you want to? IP: Logged |
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