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posted October 02, 2011 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

After re-starting belle's chart I went back to the thread you started with yours, for me, and realized I had gone over quite a bit but never really went into full detail with everything, as I did with the IC. So here I am starting a new thread for your chart so I can go over it more fully.
This will not only, hopefully, help you get a better understanding of your chart, but also for proper educational purposes for myself.
I am going to start with areas of life, the houses; beginning with your ASC and planets influencing it...

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posted October 02, 2011 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much,Sooth !

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posted October 02, 2011 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio Ascendant conjunct Saturn.

You have a quiet intensity brewing beneath the surface. Saturn constricts and stabilizes this intense nature, making it more likely for the Scorpion tendency to secrecy and privacy more of a prominent quality.
You are highly perceptive and intuitive; you pick up on subtle nuances that others wouldn't. Likely, you are an all or nothing type of person who cannot stand to be involved with anything superficial or materialistic. You experience things with an abundant amount of passion and depth.
You probably tend to scrutinize and analyze your surroundings while keeping your distance from anything fake.
Your passions run deep, whether you love something or hate something you feel strongly about it.

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posted October 02, 2011 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Continuation of my last post...

You are determined and strong willed. This may not be an apparent quality but something that is deeply felt. You have a lot of staying power and are able to foresee your aspirations as long as you don't allow yourself to get too caught up with the negatives.
Possible strong recuperative and healing powers. But as you said, you need to be healed on your own before you can heal others.

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posted October 02, 2011 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is so funny you say that.I just told a person I wanted nothing to do with her because she was all fake.I can't take "fake"

Part of it was all the lies I had to swallow as a child with the Pluto oppose IC. My childhood was all lies. There was Pluto out of reach because it was too scary to see.

Now,I will not take lies from anyone and try to root them out of myself.

If this is the Scorpio ASC,I am JUST coming in to it.
This is an important point,Sooth,for learning.
I have Saturn there. Saturn makes anything it touches HARD to access and so I could not live out my Scorpio.
It has been very,very ,very hard for me to touch it, feel it, trust it and access it.

Can you relate to Saturn,in this way,in your chart?

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posted October 02, 2011 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Soothsayer:
Continuation of my last post...

You are determined and strong willed. This may not be an apparent quality but something that is deeply felt. You have a lot of staying power and are able to foresee your aspirations as long as you don't allow yourself to get too caught up with the negatives.
Possible strong recuperative and healing powers. But as you said, you need to be healed on your own before you can heal others.



Yes,I think I am strong willed. Is this all Retro Saturn conj the ASC?

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posted October 02, 2011 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Are you getting strength of will from Saturn and the Cap qualities?
I have always loved to discipline myself, to see just how much I could accomplish that most people would not.
For example, I went on a 30 day Juice Fast. I will practice scales in music and various things which are pure drudgery, just to feel that discipline in myself.
This must be because Saturn is so close to me(The ASC)
What do you think? I think Saturn likes the feeling of being disciplined.It is a kind of food for Saturn, a fuel and a feel good for Saturn.

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posted October 02, 2011 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Explain which sign your Saturn is in .Do you feel that you cannot access the energy of this sign?

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posted October 03, 2011 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
That is so funny you say that.I just told a person I wanted nothing to do with her because she was all fake.I can't take "fake"

Part of it was all the lies I had to swallow as a child with the Pluto oppose IC. My childhood was all lies. There was Pluto out of reach because it was too scary to see.

Now,I will not take lies from anyone and try to root them out of myself.

If this is the Scorpio ASC,I am JUST coming in to it.
This is an important point,Sooth,for learning.
I have Saturn there. Saturn makes anything it touches HARD to access and so I could not live out my Scorpio.
It has been very,very ,very hard for me to touch it, feel it, trust it and access it.

Can you relate to Saturn,in this way,in your chart?


Definitely.
Saturn constricts everything it touches, making it (as you said) difficult to access. This is because it creates so much struggle. This part of life is hard for you so it just isn't easy to express it.
It can add pessimism to whatever area of life it influences.

With my Saturn in the 5th, it stunts the strong energy of my 5th house stellium and makes it hard for me to have fun and involve myself in creative and romantic pursuits. This is such an aggravating influence. I crave fun, I love to enjoy myself, let myself go, be flirty even, but Saturn holds me back out of fear of being rejected or looking foolish.
I always have an urge to sing, write, or draw but Saturn creates a perfectionist attitude when it comes to these things and I become extremely self-critical. I give up and just don't do anything as if it's better than failing
With Saturn at 0 Aquarius I feel it adds a discomfort in creative expression. But it also adds studiousness and determination.

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posted October 03, 2011 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Yes,I think I am strong willed. Is this all Retro Saturn conj the ASC?



I don't have very much knowledge on retrograde planets but it very well could be.
I was just explaining my idea of a Pluto/Saturn combination in the first house.

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posted October 03, 2011 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Sooth
Are you getting strength of will from Saturn and the Cap qualities?
I have always loved to discipline myself, to see just how much I could accomplish that most people would not.
For example, I went on a 30 day Juice Fast. I will practice scales in music and various things which are pure drudgery, just to feel that discipline in myself.
This must be because Saturn is so close to me(The ASC)
What do you think? I think Saturn likes the feeling of being disciplined.It is a kind of food for Saturn, a fuel and a feel good for Saturn.


Lol I agree with this totally. With Saturn conjunct you ASC I can definitely picture you doing a 30 day juice fast. Kudos to you--I never could.

As for me, Saturn does this to my hobbies. As I said, Neptune/Uranus makes me passionate about all scientific and esoteric affairs (astrology, astronomy, astral realms, numerology, palmistry, technology, anything paranormal). But Saturn rarely allows myself to enjoy them for the fun of it. I become extremely studious and relentless about it and study,study,study until I have perfected it. Then I wonder why I didn't have any fun and have managed to give myself a headache.
I treat everything as a science. If it sparks my interest, I have to prove it accurate to myself and others.

Obviously with such a packed 5th house (some asteroids too, but I would have to search for them before I actually remember which ones) fun, romance, passion are all important to me but Saturn makes it difficult for me to access me flirtatious and passionate side.
I am very critical with myself regarding all of these things. When it comes to be creative I hold myself back. I love to write, draw and people would be surprised to know that I have nice singing voice because I don't allow myself to show anyone out of fear of rejection.
I'm just starting to find comfort in this side of myself and careless about what other people say. This is why I am so excited for Pluto's journey through my 5th. I feel it will be a great 10 years or so of my life. Obviously some struggles, but I'm already learning to own and love my Pluto and since I know it's coming maybe I will get a better hold of it before it ever can get out of control.

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posted October 03, 2011 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting about your Saturn!
Yes,I love when I can accomplish things that most people would not do like almost an hour a day of Kundalini yoga.I have worked up the ability to do the breathing techniques for a long time.
I love that I did that discipline lol
I never knew where this came from.It must be Saturn Retro conj the ASC
Retro makes it more intense and more self focused,which is harder,but more intense, so different than a non Retro planet.
I have Merc Retro and it is different than a direct planet.I have Neptune Retro,too, actually.
Retro makes you go deep inside, like going to the center of something.You are forced to go very deep and when you come out, you have a different way of seeing things and you have a depth, would be the best way to say it.

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posted October 03, 2011 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to check to see what sign your Saturn is in.
Is the energy of THAT sign hard for you to access?

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posted October 03, 2011 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Saturn is 0 Aqua.

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posted October 04, 2011 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have been having amazing insights in to things. I will share them with you.I would love a study buddy,as we seem to be

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posted October 05, 2011 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aww Ami that is so sweet. I absolutely agree, that is exactly what we are--study buddys. Lol I appreciate talking to you because we seem as if we're basically on the same page and are both eager to learn more and discussing each thing indepth should be a great learning experience for the both of us.

Please share with me about your amazing insights, very intrigued

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posted October 05, 2011 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I apologize for the delay.
I was taking a look at some of Ceri's even chart midpoints and was going to take a stab at interpreting them and then I got caught up with a bunch of things at home cause my life is just hectic at the moment.

But I will respond to everything you adding on my chart, then I will add some more here on yours. Then of course go back and finish what I was doing for Ceri lol.

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posted October 05, 2011 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please explain your Neptune retrograde. My mother, brother, and I all have this. Could you tell me how you relate to this? I am still not sure of how to interpret it.
Maybe once you explain this to me, I can try to get a feel of it's influence in your 12th house.

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posted October 05, 2011 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well,before I explain Neptune Retro, I want to explain something else. I will use my chart as a reference point.Some of it is specific to me.Some is general.
I have most planets in the upper half. This makes one naturally extroverted which is a huge blessing--huge,if you have a lot of things to overcome such as Saturn Retro and Pluto oppose the IC which we talked about

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posted October 05, 2011 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is my new insight,though.Do you see Chiron all my itself in the 3rd house.It is almost a Singleton, not quite cuz of Saturn conj the ASC,but close.

So,it seems like I can go out to other people.However,my worst and hardest struggle is for self expression--Chiron in the 3rd.
It seems like it is standing there ALONE and is my biggest battle and yet, MY ANSWER.

Just a thought about Singletons. What do you think?

I think I could sum it up in this way.Perhaps, a Singleton is the answer to the person's life, like a key.

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posted October 05, 2011 05:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow very interesting.

I don't know much about singletons but I would think you are right.
I'm gonna think on it for a few and try to really understand it.

At some point could you talk about my Chiron alone in the 11th? I'm interested in what you think about it

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posted October 06, 2011 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soothsayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will add more later.

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posted October 06, 2011 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Sooth
I did talk about your Chiron
The Singelton does not apply to alone in a house.It has to be a single of a larger thing like and element,a hemisphere etc but I am talking about your 3 upper hemisphere planets of which Chiron is one.

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posted October 06, 2011 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A Singleton could be one fire planet,for example.It could be one cardinal planet,also.
It could be a single planet in a hemisphere.

I don't know if you can use it with aspects.You may.If you have only one square,it may be stronger, for example, but I am not sure about this

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posted October 06, 2011 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We can talk about your Chiron, in general, if you want, though.

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