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Dreaming111
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posted October 07, 2011 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm the female.

How does our situation look? Are we marriage material? Soulmates? Doomed?

If I should add another chart or change the options, please let me know. I'm not too familiar with the selections on astro.com, but I'll figure it out.

(I'm new to the site, so hello.)

Thanks!

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posted October 09, 2011 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Dreaming,

Welcome to the site and sorry nobody's picked up on this yet. Maybe they're all overwhelmed. Or maybe the title turned some people off. There seems to be a few posters here who become annoyed when people ask about soulmates, I'm not sure why.

Anyway, I am not a practiced astrologer, having only skimmed the surface for a few years, so I won't comment on the synastry and mess you all up, but I will tell you to do a Google search for the terms "soulmate calculator" and I think you'll find some interesting tools.

But... is that a Vertex/North Node conjunction I see there? I can't tell the orb, but maybe someone else can pipe in here? That seems like it might be fated...

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posted October 09, 2011 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Dreaming
Could you make it bigger, please, or give a link?

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posted October 09, 2011 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me, we have a lot of soulmates... Our teachers, friends, children, and lovers are all our soul mates..
A soul mate is some one you have an agreement with to meet again, in this life for what ever purpose..
Soulmate relationships are very strong, but dont usually last.. But they are very deep and intense..

With that said, I would say yes this is a fated encounter..
Do you two work together????

I cant say if it will last or not, but I can say that neither of you will be the same..
Some internal changes will take place.

You two have Venus sq Uranus, which can mean an all of a sudden relationship, but can end just as suddenly.

There are alot of sexual attraction going on. SOOOOOOO that should be awesome

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posted October 10, 2011 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you mean with "soulmates", that there is the potential of leaving a lasting and deep, maybe even transforming impression on each other; a feeling of familiarity and closeness, then I say, yes, definitely, that potential is there.

the first hints I saw for this:
- your Moon exactly on his IC
- his Moon conjunct your Pluto and Saturn in your 12th (this raises the issues of possible karmic implications as well; and it probably can be rather challenging as well, but will have a profound effect)
- his Ceres and BML on your IC
- his Sun on your MC

actually his Sun on your MC and your moon on his IC emphasise the IC-MC-axis; I´d suggest you should read the paper on this on innerwheel (I am trying to find the link later).

His 3rd lines up exactly with your 12th house - I always find these exact lines up interesting. Maybe you have been siblings in a past life.
Or teacher and pupil, especially with his 12th house cusp falling into your 9th house.


Neptune on the SN is definitely spiritual as well, but for some weird reason I have found that Neptune opposing or squaring the NN often has an eroding effect on relationships. Several of these lovestories that went really awry had that. Though it does not mean it has to be that way always; there have to be some other hints at that, too.

Neptune opposing Sun actually can be very spiritual as well, but with Neptune`s challenging aspects you have to really take care that you are not losing yourself in a dream, or if you do, make sure that there is a foundation to that dream.

The exact line up of the 5th and 8th house is interesting as well, and I think, speaks of a possible chemistry, if this is supported by the connections to these houses; of course here that Neptune pops up again, as a ruler of both houses.

Makes me think that you probably have come quite a way (your souls that is); with the rulers of 5th and 8th house on the South Nodes, it makes me think of a passionate love affair in the past.


Can you post the composite, please?


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posted October 10, 2011 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://theinnerwheel.com/category/the-mcic-and-saturnmoon-in-synastry/

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posted October 10, 2011 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had his Neptune oppose my SN and it went awry, you could say

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posted October 10, 2011 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I know, I find it almost creepy, that Neptune-SN conj. or square. The conjunction to NN seems to work better interestingly, especially if there is a spiritual or artistic / creative foundation to the relationship.


August Rodin - Camille Claudel:
square (she ended up in an asylum at the end of their relationship, accusing him to have stolen her ideas)

Bertrand Cantat - Marie Trintigant
square
(a volatile relationship that ended with him beating her to death in a fit of jealous rage; there were other hints at violence, too)

Eric Satie - Suzanne Valadin
conj. SN

(a stormy 6 weeks affair; she jumped out of a window out of his life, and he never recovered from that love)


Emperor Franz Joseph and Sisi (Austria)
square

very unhappy monarchic marriage, even though it started out as love (at least from his side)


I was also looking at happy and/ or long lasting relationships, and none of them had the Neptune-SN-aspect!
Instead most of them had a Saturn-NN aspects (though I think it does not really guarantee happiness, but certainly is some sort of glue; though sometimes you do not want to be too glued to certain people)

Sorry I do not want to derail this thread, just found that interesting.

(though Neptune-SN is of course generational and has to be supported by other Red flags, which were present in these cases)


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posted October 10, 2011 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just read all this and my eyes became the size of dishes. I had no idea it would be like that. Man. It is creepy and scary.

I'll post a larger wheel and the composite as you have all requested.

Thank you so much for your input. It really means a lot.

I don't mind you derailing this thread. hehe. All this is quite interesting to me.

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posted October 10, 2011 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have no idea!
Actually upon seeing your charts, everything about it screams PAST LIFE to me.

And for those who do not believe in Past lives SUBCONSCIOUSNESS.

Just for a taste:
Your ASC-ruler conjuncts his 12th house ruler in YOUR 12th house.

His ASC-ruler conjuncts your 12th house ruler in HIS 12th house.

Doesn`t that give you shivers?

12th house indicative of past lives or for those who do not believe in them, for deeply hidden subconscious issues, and the ASC indicating the entry in this incarnation, your very personal essence.

It basically means you raise these very vulnerable subconscious issues in each other just by being yourself, and this is even emphasiszed because you have each the ASC ruler in your own 12th house, which means that you just trigger something inside of you that has been lying dormant there all the time.

Now not saying it is an easy thing, but surely something deep is going on here.

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posted October 10, 2011 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted October 10, 2011 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted October 10, 2011 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure it's the way you want it. The degrees and such are hard to read. When I press Ctrl and the = sign it gets larger. If there are any suggestions, I will most definitely redo these.

I'm also not sure if this was the composite you are looking for.....There are so many options. lol

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posted October 10, 2011 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, I see Orchus
Do you want to research Orchus and do a thread on it. Then, we can talk about it

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posted October 10, 2011 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Crabbypatty: Thank you for being the first to respond. I was losing hope. hehe
I will most definitely google the soulmate calculator.

@AmiAnne: Hello!
I tried to make it bigger. Let me know if I should somehow make it even larger.

@Lioness: I completely agree. In fact when he was thinking out loud and asked," ...Are we soulmates or something?", I replied by telling him what you said. I don't think soulmates are between a man and woman alone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF6e8VmmZFI&feature=channel_video_title
That video might interest you, but it's simply reiterating what you have already stated. : )

No, we don't work together. We've actually never met in person.

Lol about the attraction, you are correct, at least from my perspective. I can't say I know what he's thinking. lol

@Ceridwen: Thank you for your post. He does take care of me well. I feel safe with him. About the Neptune and Sun, I read it's a bad aspect and only leads to disappointment, as in we have too many high hopes, and things come crashing down. Though I feel safe with him, I also don't. I feel like he tells me what I want to hear or what seems like the the correct answer for the given situation, but in his mind and heart he might have something else going on. We've had a lot of misunderstandings; I don't know if they were intentional or accidental. Eventually when I press him he opens up, but I hate doing that. Don't get me wrong. I have lied to him about certain problems in my life. I just didn't have the energy to explain it. I've never told anyone. After he told me he loved me in April 2011, I told him everything about myself in May. We both agree that to one another we are the closest people we've met thus far in our lives. I know more about thim than anyone, and he knows more about me than anyone else including family.

I can tell you more. Our r/s is anything but conventional. I don't mean kinky. I mean it's more old fashioned, purer.

Some things amaze me and confuse me. I don't know how it's even possible we stuck by each other so long.

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posted October 10, 2011 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@AmiAnne: Sure. I'll look it up, and start a new thread on orcus.

Ok started new thread for just that topic.

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posted October 10, 2011 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a basic a question.

When looking at aspects, for example with his neptune in opposition to my sun, is the effect of the aspect going both ways? In this case, does the Neptunian deceit play on both sides? If you look at just that aspect, is he deceiving me, or do we end up deceiving each other? Is the energy always from the one who holds the neptune to the one that holds the sun? Is it that he unintentionally/ intentially deceives me because of that aspect, or that we both end up deceiving each other?

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posted November 03, 2011 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump

I couldn't post anything before...

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Dreaming111
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posted November 22, 2011 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, I know the servers were down for a while...I still hope someone could enlighten about my situation. Thanks

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Dreaming111
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posted January 31, 2012 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, it's been a while.
I was wondering if anyone would be able ot help me with my questions. thanks

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posted January 31, 2012 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, but you guys really dont have anythi g going on other than mutual sun moon aspects and sun conjunct venus. That composite is terrible except for venus sectile pluto and venus trine neptune. But i'm afraid that's not enough to make up for the general lack of sustance here. Are you guys still together, if you have gotten together at all?

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posted January 31, 2012 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceridwen ~ can you remember any of those couples who had a sat/nn conjunction?

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posted January 31, 2012 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
could you repost the syn bi wheel after reducing the orb ratio down to 40% as the max orb between planets should be 3'

although some members differ, this is a standard, mainstream view...

Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html

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posted January 31, 2012 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dreaming111:
I'm not sure it's the way you want it. The degrees and such are hard to read. When I press Ctrl and the = sign it gets larger. If there are any suggestions, I will most definitely redo these.

I'm also not sure if this was the composite you are looking for.....There are so many options. lol



I know I had the same problem, but another member here suggested press ctrl and + and this makes it larger

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posted January 31, 2012 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
some important things can be seen straight away like Node conj mars. your obviously both of a similar age, as the outers are conjunct..

Both ASc are fixed ie: scorpio and leo.
juno conj eris looks good

Looking at your natal chart your mercury/sun quincunx looks challenging
Sun quincunx neptune
“shows that you consider your responsibilities the most pressing in the world. There is an element of self sacrifice. You really believe people who suggest that only you can solve their problems. Because of this martyr quality, you seek the most demanding jobs or human situations in order to test your commitment to service. Unsure of yourself you continually try to find ways to prove your competence, but deplete your own energies.
Professional success will be difficult to achieve because of your preoccupation with endless trivia. Exaggerating the importance of superficial matters, you tend to get bogged down by them.”

From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag

Sun Quincunx Neptune
“Your energy tends to be directed unrealistically. Your own sense of self changes as you learn from your own misappraisals of situations that are important to you. If you feel drained or frustrated it is always helpful to look at your overall direction in life and determine if you have taken on more through your high ideals than your physical vitality can sustain. It is always worthwhile to see how your ideas are received by others, to see if you can involve them in your vision. When you can't, avoid trying to do everything yourself. Slow down” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

Mercury Quincunx Neptune
“Lots of time and effort can be wasted when you plan on things that are way out of reach. Your imagination and ideals serve you well when you are careful to keep the sequence of essential happenings in mind and accept your own idiosyncrasies. Be careful you don't promise more to others than you can deliver. Self-honesty is not easy but it is essential in order to develop.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

“You make promises you cannot keep and console yourself by saying, "Well at least I tried." However, your reasoning is not in keeping with the facts. You create for yourself painful responsibilities that are usually unnecessary. You worry over unnecessary problems that may never develop and overreact to those that do. You exaggerate the seriousness of your failures and may even become ill by dwelling on tasks you think others expect you to do. You are imaginative, inspired, and creative but find difficulty in expressing these qualities to your complete satisfaction.”

From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag

Sometimes these quincunxs (aka Inconjuncts 150’) are obvious and recognised in personality, other times it can take a lot of self examination to identify with the planets energies and of course they (like all aspects) don't operate 100% of the time, they are simply a facet of your personality. Some say they cause health issues that are unresolved, underlying, dormant waiting to be triggered.... some say you stay at one end, to the detriment of the other, OR end up see-sawing between the two until you learn balance, integration of two unlikely pairings.

Next look at the signs, then houses and then aspects. Now the *others aspects* from these quincunxs/Yods as they can act like escape routes, that can help or hinder the expressions. A chart with lots of Yods (Finger of God) will always be *searching* for the divine answers to the meaning of life, to find synthesis
What tends to happen with quincunxs is that with progessions and transits will create temporary Yods aka 'Finger of god' configurations. Like with common TSquares, they create a temp Grand Square...

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