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Ami Anne
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posted November 04, 2011 01:18 PM
  
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posted November 05, 2011 01:26 PM
Knowing you are a psychic and interested in astrology, I could feel it in this chart.Strong 8H sextile MC conj Plu 10H sextile Nep in 12H. In addition, Jup & Mars in 9H. I see Nep's strength in its native 12H, perhaps that's the psychic ability? esp trining 8H Sun conj Merc (search for deep meaning) and sextile MC/Plu in 10H so you can make it your career. Normally I am really hesitant interpreting 8H/12H and have some sort of negative preconceived ideas about them. But here I can see the strength in them when they can work in tandem. I think the Jup in nature 9H also increases the interest in metaphysics and the mystic.
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posted November 05, 2011 01:30 PM
cancer moon and plenty of water. Would you say you are an emotional person, and they tend to run deep below surface?Scorpio Asc conj Saturn
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Ami Anne
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posted November 05, 2011 01:33 PM
Yuting Please, tell me about the 8th/12th? Is it like insanity lol? I want you to be straight up? The trine is there--Thank God, but I would like a totally honest answer! ------------------
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posted November 05, 2011 01:46 PM
Honestly, I am trying to feel out the 8th and 12th houses and cannot. I know it is hard to be straight up. It is for me, too. I have an earth void, too, to add in to the mix  ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted November 05, 2011 02:16 PM
SCorpio conj the ASC makes it hard for me to express my passions, not my emotions. There is a big difference. Scorpio is the feral tiger stalking in the wild. That part of myself is hard to even feel, let alone express  ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted November 06, 2011 09:14 AM
I have been meditating on the 8th/12th house connection. I would like to explore it with you. We can explore whatever you want, in your chart, as well.------------------
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posted November 06, 2011 09:48 AM
I am still apprehensive about 8H and 12H interpretations. Maybe because I have nothing in those 2 houses, so people strong in those 2 houses tend to me a mystery to me. I have the idea these people tend to have unconventional thoughts and mystic interests. Their emotions also seem deeper and darker, so if not well-supported, I kept wondering they would be prone to emotional disorders or certain obsessions/perversions.
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posted November 06, 2011 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have been meditating on the 8th/12th house connection. I would like to explore it with you. We can explore whatever you want, in your chart, as well.
From your chart however, I see a well-supported trine-sextile for your 8H and 12H planets. So probably you harness your 8H/12H energy to express themselves via your career? A strong 9H also added to the spirituality of your study? and not just occult?
Maybe that's why you are willing to share your skills with us here, for mutual growth.
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posted November 06, 2011 09:59 AM
Just noticed you are also Sun conj SN, like me. How does that exhibit for you? Do you feel like resting on your laurels at times, not wanting to push yourself that much, esp in terms of financial success?
Any reliance on old family money? (8H)For me, my sun is in 4H (Placidus)/3H(equal), with a wide conj with IC. I feel like staying home, travelling for less time at times, instead of working on extended projects out-of-town. Although I will start to feel restless whenever I have extended periods staying at home IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted November 06, 2011 10:05 AM
Well, I want to explore the 8th/12th house more, later. I will be back and will also look at yours!------------------
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posted November 06, 2011 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by yuting:
Do you feel like resting on your laurels at times, not wanting to push yourself that much, esp in terms of financial success?
Any reliance on old family money? (8H)
Or maybe not in terms of money and finance, but you are comfortable understanding other people's views and values, but you find yourself having the need to find your own value, which might be challenging (empty 2H with strong opposition in 8H)?
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Ami Anne
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posted November 06, 2011 07:32 PM
Wow great question. First of, I have been given money by family so the 8th house would show that. As far as values, it HAS been hard to find my own because I was very undermined by my mother throughout my life whenever I wanted to find my own identity. So, yes to both and thank you!------------------
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posted November 06, 2011 07:54 PM
My struggle is with understanding the 8th/12th house. I am gonna really open up to you, so maybe you can help me, here.
I have an earth void. I was OK, stability wise, until 14, when I became numb from having a very hard mother who made me freeze up because I could not deal with her. So, from that point on, I felt numb. I felt very afraid that I would lose my sanity because I could not feel and had to almost pinch myself that I was even there. My life has been a hanging on to my sanity, as a precious jewel because I was afraid to let go and lose control and lose my grasp on reality, you could say. I don't like to write this here, and may erase it, but I have a chance to talk about these houses with you, so want to! Understanding the chart can heal you and I want to experience that, too.
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posted November 06, 2011 07:55 PM
So, my question is " Does my chart show HOW hard it was to keep my sanity?" If so, could you please give me your opinion, now that I have shared that and thank you!------------------
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posted November 06, 2011 08:00 PM
Yes, Sun conjunct SN. I am not very driven, in a way. Hmmm, in a way, I am. i can't answer that one. I never thought about it.That is a great question. It is VERY profound to exchange charts with someone cuz each person has a different bent and a different eye. ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted November 06, 2011 08:04 PM
You know how Sun conjunct SN may manifest in me. I was really treated badly by my mother and it hurt my confidence a great deal, but someone I,always, retained some core of confidence. I never knew where it came from because my mother could never,totally, take me down. I have wondered about this; how I retained confidence when I was very beseiged by her. I bet it is Sun conjunct SN because the Sun is basic identity and sense of self. What do you think? It is so weird that THIS aspect may explain that weird "quirk" I never understood. Where did this basic self confidence come from when it did not make sense? ------------------
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posted November 06, 2011 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have an earth void. I was OK, stability wise, until 14, when I became numb from having a very hard mother who made me freeze up because I could not deal with her.So, from that point on, I felt numb. I felt very afraid that I would lose my sanity because I could not feel and had to almost pinch myself that I was even there. My life has been a hanging on to my sanity, as a precious jewel because I was afraid to let go and lose control and lose my grasp on reality, you could say. I don't like to write this here, and may erase it, but I have a chance to talk about these houses with you, so want to! Understanding the chart can heal you and I want to experience that, too.
With this additional information, I start to think what happened to you was a combination of a very watery chart (Asc, planets in Cancer and water houses and even your Gemini sun is Cancer cusp) and lack of earth and Saturn in 1st. All that water probably made you extra sensitive, very emotional intense. You asked me about my Moon/Chiron conj and if there was deep hurt/healing relationship with her. I see you dont have moon-chiron contact, but I guess the influence is reflected by the cluster of Cancerian planets. Interestingly they are in 8H, not 4H or 3rd quadrant, not 1st quadrant, so may I guess that your mother's influence on you was not contained at home, but affecting your external relationships? IP: Logged |
yuting
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posted November 06, 2011 11:11 PM
To continue,I think the water and lack of earth made you take your trauma at a deep level, but nowhere to earth it. And your fire is also not very strong to drive you to change it. And you have airy thinking planets to keep you think more and more about it,but no fire/earth actions Let me use an example, I am guessing a fire person lacking water with a dominant mother would probably be rebellious and just ignore the mom and does things her way. Or she might read her mother's actions and words as events to handle, but would not read too deeply into the emotions, and thus probably would have less hurt feelings. ...thinking about it, maybe that's why I do not feel my moon/chiron with mom as traumatic. I am fire lacking water. For an earth person, she would probably find some kind of routine/habit to help ease her tension with her mother, maybe avoid thinking about it unless essential for daily life. Maybe lacking anchor with actions made you feel lost with all that pent up emotions and thoughts, thus you kept feeling you had to hang on to sanity. IP: Logged |
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posted November 06, 2011 11:14 PM
Oh, my mother. It has been my war, to try to separate myself from her. As a child, I would repeat, again and again, "I am not like her". It was like a prayer, a mantra to save my sanity until one day, I couldn't say it any more. I could not keep myself away from her. Then, I went numb and have stayed that way, until now, when I want to know that I am "me", not her. ------------------
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posted November 06, 2011 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, Sun conjunct SN. I am not very driven, in a way. Hmmm, in a way, I am. i can't answer that one. I never thought about it.That is a great question. It is VERY profound to exchange charts with someone cuz each person has a different bent and a different eye.
Maybe I should not say you are not driven. You have Pluto/MC conj with Leo fire, that would give you drive and intensity and transformative energy in terms of your public goals/career. I think you have found your calling to help people to transform themselves. That should be in-line with your inspirations. That area, you should not have problem with drive. I am thinking the lack in drive is actually in yourself, making yourself better, use the transformation energy on yourself. 3rd quadrant is working with others, but what are you doing for yourself?
8H/12H...sacrificing yourself too much for others?
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Ami Anne
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posted November 06, 2011 11:25 PM
Yes, I feel like I give so much, but it is hard to water myself.Please, explain more about this. I want to grasp it so I can go forward and change. The chart can do that like nothing else. Please, explain more what you mean. I think I am blocking on seeing it--- an emotional block when you are seeing the truth. This happens when people get close to the truth of us!------------------
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posted November 06, 2011 11:37 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You know how Sun conjunct SN may manifest in me. I was really treated badly by my mother and it hurt my confidence a great deal, but someone I,always, retained some core of confidence. I never knew where it came from because my mother could never,totally, take me down. I have wondered about this; how I retained confidence when I was very beseiged by her. I bet it is Sun conjunct SN because the Sun is basic identity and sense of self. What do you think? It is so weird that THIS aspect may explain that weird "quirk" I never understood. Where did this basic self confidence come from when it did not make sense?
Yes, I think Sun is your basic self, and I think the confidence in yourself could be from the Gemini Sun (even when cusp) conj Merc with Venus in the same. You are probably sociable and maybe to socialize and to communicate with others on their problems took your mind off your own. I am thinking Saturn in 1st might be tough (I have that in mine too), but in the long run, it is likely what keeps us strong and steady. We might be slow, but we eventually overcome. That Saturn trining your moon probably helped a lot in your maintaining sanity. IP: Logged |
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posted November 06, 2011 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, I feel like I give so much, but it is hard to water myself.Please, explain more about this. I want to grasp it so I can go forward and change. The chart can do that like nothing else. Please, explain more what you mean. I think I am blocking on seeing it--- an emotional block when you are seeing the truth. This happens when people get close to the truth of us!
Maybe I can share with you my thoughts on the nodes, which I believe is very important for people seeking self-improvement. It shows us where we are in terms of prior life strength and our learning targets for current life continued evolution. I'd like to see SN as our strength from previous life (or safety net in this one) and the NN as our learning target.
If we stay in our safety net all the time, we will never grow (self-improvement). But neither can we just focus on grow, without moments of safety and comfort to rest in between. Therefore, in both natal and in synastry, I do not like the pre-conception that SN is bad and NN is good. As in the 3rd approach described in the first post, we need to leverage on our previous strength and take comfort at tough time with our SN character or in a person who hits our SN. Just remember to work hard again for NN after recharging with our SN holiday. IP: Logged |
yuting
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posted November 06, 2011 11:51 PM
To continue on the nodal discussion,see how your planets are clustered around your SN and they are all in 3Q? While your NN/Chiron (ie life goals and healing) are both in 1Q with no personal planets to support except for Saturn? If it were NN instead of SN that the planets hug around, you would probably feel a lot of energy/help/affinity from within/without to achieve your NN. Right now, you have the opposite: a lot of opposition for your development and healing, with little support (at least at an obvious level). 3Q to me is a for others (magnanimous) quadrant, while 1Q is the me (selfish) quadrant. I have met people with strong 1Q, and yes, even if they have a friendly front or are sociable, when I know them better, I know they are essentially self-centered. When you have NN (as well as Chiron) in 1Q and no planets there, it seems to be calling to me I should tell you to learn to be more self-centered. IP: Logged |
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