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irreverentangel
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posted November 17, 2011 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for irreverentangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We're having an ongoing discussion about whether or not it would be wise for us to become romantically involved - I really feel that Moon conjunction to a handful of my personal planets, but we also can square off pretty badly if circumstances require distance (he's a workaholic. it's complicated).

My analytical Virgo Mercury would dearly love thoughts from other astro people... I dabble, but have no one else to play with.

Jan 27 1975/Jul 28 1984

Synastry Chart -

Aspect Grid - http://i42.tinypic.com/2a7vr13.png

Placements - http://i39.tinypic.com/2woxfnd.png

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irreverentangel
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posted December 08, 2011 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for irreverentangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nooot sure if I'm doing this right or not, but if I reply to my own post, it "bumps" it, yeah? This seems to be an accepted practice (if not, I'm REALLY sorry, don't yell at me too much).

I would just really like thoughts on the charts. Or you know, tell me what I'm doing wrong in my petition for help, and I'll try to do it right.

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anongrl10
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posted December 08, 2011 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It would be nice if you put the chart up here instead of just a link. Save it on photobucket and copy the img code from there then paste it here. Seeing the chart in the post usually prompts people to take a look and comment on what jumps up.

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anongrl10
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posted December 08, 2011 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's weird though that you are having an "ongoing discussion" on whether you should be together. Either you want it or not. Are you interested enough to pursue it (question for both of you)?

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Ami Anne
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posted December 08, 2011 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to Personal Readings Irreverent

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Want a peek in to my journal?


http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/

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irreverentangel
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posted December 08, 2011 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for irreverentangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's ... an exceedingly complex relationship. - it would take a lot of time to explain the issues/history, but the simpler response is that it would...at least initially upend a lot of things. Not sure how things would settle out. Hence request for people's input on the astrology involved.

And thanks for the welcome, Ami.

edit: let me move the chart to the original post. I figured links would be better so I didn't overwhelm people's screens, but I can totally do this.

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lechien
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posted December 08, 2011 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm rubbish at doing a comprehensive interpretation so i'll leave that to others, but the first thing that jumps to my eyes is you guys' Sun/moon. because you both already have your own Sun/moon in hard aspects, it must intensify that in each other too.

and Neptune/Uranus conjunct. that spells out "complicated", i have it with my guy too. on top of that you have Node in reverse conjunction. wow!

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irreverentangel
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posted December 08, 2011 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for irreverentangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of the things I find interesting about our charts is that we have a whole hell of a lot of oppositions going on.

My sun is conjunct my moon. At the end of the day, I am a whole. lot. of Leo - my Venus is also Leo, and then I have Scorpio in Mars (I refer to Scorpio as the water sign that thinks it's a fire sign -- and Leo as the opposite of that), you know, just to make life interesting.

He has more of an... issue, let's say, in that his sun is OPPOSITE his moon, and that moon conjuncts my sun, moon AND venus. (Also, my Juno and Vesta, but who's counting) Of course, his Aquarius Sun is then opposite every one of those placements.

We were born at opposite ends of the year, and then nearly ten years apart on top of that, resulting in that node reversal. I'm actually still not sure what I make of that piece.

My Uranus hits him a bunch of times - conjunct his Neptune (as you noted! I didn't know that was known for complicated, though that makes a tremendous amount of sense), North Node & Vertex (I just started playing with vertexes, but my understanding it's... a sensitive axis? Another thing that files under Not Sure What to Make Of It).

There's also conjunctions on my moon/his ascendant, my saturn/his uranus and my jupiter/his mars.

Random stupid question: What does it mean when it says a next to the number instead of s? I would suspect the s is seconds, but seeing as that a throws me I'm not sure

Over in the asteroids, we have some other conjunctions - my lilith conjunct his ceres & juno, my pallas conjunct his jupiter and ceres. (Not Sure About These Either.)


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Originally posted by lechien:
i'm rubbish at doing a comprehensive interpretation so i'll leave that to others, but the first thing that jumps to my eyes is you guys' Sun/moon. because you both already have your own Sun/moon in hard aspects, it must intensify that in each other too.

and Neptune/Uranus conjunct. that spells out "complicated", i have it with my guy too. on top of that you have Node in reverse conjunction. wow!



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Randall
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posted December 08, 2011 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

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irreverentangel
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posted December 08, 2011 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for irreverentangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

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Originally posted by Randall:
Welcome!

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lechien
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posted December 08, 2011 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by irreverentangel:
One of the things I find interesting about our charts is that we have a whole hell of a lot of oppositions going on.

My sun is conjunct my moon. At the end of the day, I am a whole. lot. of Leo - my Venus is also Leo, and then I have Scorpio in Mars (I refer to Scorpio as the water sign that thinks it's a fire sign -- and Leo as the opposite of that), you know, just to make life interesting.

He has more of an... issue, let's say, in that his sun is OPPOSITE his moon, and that moon conjuncts my sun, moon AND venus. (Also, my Juno and Vesta, but who's counting) Of course, his Aquarius Sun is then opposite every one of those placements.

We were born at opposite ends of the year, and then nearly ten years apart on top of that, resulting in that node reversal. I'm actually still not sure what I make of that piece.

My Uranus hits him a bunch of times - conjunct his Neptune (as you noted! I didn't know that was known for complicated, though that makes a tremendous amount of sense), North Node & Vertex (I just started playing with vertexes, but my understanding it's... a sensitive axis? Another thing that files under Not Sure What to Make Of It).

There's also conjunctions on my moon/his ascendant, my saturn/his uranus and my jupiter/his mars.

Random stupid question: What does it mean when it says a next to the number instead of s? I would suspect the s is seconds, but seeing as that a throws me I'm not sure


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the "a" and "s" next to the numbers mean "applying" and "separating". look it up because i'm not good at explaining this stuff. i get confused myself.

i don't think you have THAT many oppositions though? as long as i can see it's just between your Sun/Moon. oppositions are not as bad as squares, you should see my chart with my guy. it's only squares.

the Nodal reversal thing also, it is better than square which is a blocked energy (but i'm unsure squares even count for Nodes). this is based on what i have read and interpreted but because NN, which symbolises evolution and growth falls on the other's SN which is where one grows out of, i think it can be the the younger one learns from the older and grow from and out of the relationship. it probably doesn't necessarily mean it is definitely being terminated at one point, but it's on the spiritual level. or it could mean that it has the same effect on both of you? but i'm seeing that his Neptune is conjunct your SN, so it may mean that you grow out of his Nepturian qualities.

as for Vertex, i think it's ok to settle with the "special axis".

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lechien
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posted December 08, 2011 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ah ok i get it, his Sun is opposing all of your asteroids too, missed that line!

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irreverentangel
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posted December 08, 2011 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for irreverentangel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OHHHHH.

*feels a little bit dumb*

Squares can work out, if you don't kill each other first.

As an example of wanting to kill someone, see how he frustrates my mars with his moon, mercury AND venus. He's ..very almost passive (His Capricorn Mars does not get along with my Scorpio. no. no, it does not, I do not freaking care what astrology says, that combination makes me insane. I'll be like, ok, we've talked stuff out, I've decided to Do a Thing. And then he'll be like, uh, time to plan some more. And then I kill him ded). Drive me right off the deep end.

Then we talk it out (see that Mars trine my Virgo Mercury?) and things work out. We can talk through anything - it is one of the most amazing things about us. That's with emotion (I can't handle people who can't handle me - I'm integrated emotion constantly) - so long as my Mars doesn't kick in, we're good. He can't handle it when I fight - my mars square his moon. He gets hurt (oh, Leo. sometimes I wish I understood being that kind of sensitive/sullen/hurt less well - not that he gives in often, but when he does I so understand) and hides.

Anyway - understanding each other's motivations is very instinctive for us - our ability to verbally communicate is pretty intense. It's only when we don't have the opportunity - see: distance, workaholic, emotional energy tapped out, etc - that things get dicey. Strangely enough, three placements Leo girl does not deal well with people not having enough emotional energy for her. Funny how that works. >.>

There's also his buddy Uranus squaring my Sun and Moon. So he hauls off and acts like an aquarius (why. why is there so much aquarius...), and it makes me nuts.

-- the squares are ... rough. Can work through them, but I do not envy a whole chart of them. (Venus/mars square may result in sparks, but sometimes they're the house on fire sort) What aspects keep you together?

That nodal line makes me nervous because I have skimmed the karmic lessons thought, and I just - don't know what to make of it, I guess.

His north node trines my sun, asteroids juno and vesta, conjunct my jupiter, ...and then opposes my north node and chiron. >.>

On the flip side, my north node trines his sun, pluto & part of fortune (add another to the What the Hell do you do w that Aspect pile), sextiles his Juno... and then opposes his North Node & Vertex. -_-

Which at the end of the day JUST CONFUSES ME. ]

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