posted January 02, 2012 09:02 AM            

Ceres is prolly one of the most beautiful asteroids of all cuz it is unconditional love.It is nurturing love, as a mother taking care of a sick child, feeding him soup and touching his forehead with love.

This man"explodes" that kind of love. This would be very powerful to you, or anyone who had this kind of connection with him, which will be rare.

At any rate, does he "seduce" you with his nurturing love?

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posted January 02, 2012 09:03 AM            

With asteroids, one must do one’s own research, as there can be precious little information available. I have been checking out Pholus in charts and have come to this conclusion. Pholus explodes what it touches. If Pholus touches Chiron, the planet of pain, a person will explode with his pain. If Pholus touches Ceres, the asteroid of unconditional love, the person may be a teacher who gives unconditional love to her students. This was the case in a chart I did. If one persons Pholus touches another persons planet, the Pholus person can make the planet person “explode” in that area. By explode, I mean come forth and break open. I liken it to an infection which comes to a head. Then, it can open and heal.. Each energy is part of being human. One must embrace each part of the chart as one must embrace each part of oneself.

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posted January 02, 2012 09:04 AM            

I have named Pholus the “Ape in the China Shop” Asteroid. Pholus explodes on the scene. He can explode with whatever emotion is bothering him. He emotes, with little sensitivity to his environment. After he explodes with emotion, he does not have a sense of the havoc he has wreaked. Then, he, usually, blames someone else. Pholus is not manipulative, as much as childlike. If he wants to emote, you can be sure he will: the devil may care.

A woman had a man’s Pholus conjunct her NN. Indeed, it was an explosive relationship. It was not violent, per se, but high drama.

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posted January 02, 2012 09:11 AM            

I have a 12th house Neptune, so I understand 12th house, as well.

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posted January 02, 2012 09:12 AM            

Some respected Astrologers shirk when they see planets in the 12th house. They shirk with empathy for the person who must deal with planets placed here. The astrological chart is the wheel of life. It goes from birth to death. The 12th house represents death. As such, the person is not your typical earth bound person occupied with earth bound pursuits. Some part of that person lives in the next dimension. As you can imagine, it makes the sphere of life represented by the 12th house planet harder. For example, if Venus, the planet of love, is in the 12th house, love comes harder for this person. This person may see other people falling in love, seemingly effortlessly, and wonder “Why, me? why is it so hard for me?” Venus in the 12th house wants love, as much as any other Venus, or person, but the 12th house makes Venus not in step with the ways of the world, almost awkward and self doubting. If one has Mars in the 12th house, one’s anger and drive may turn inward to such a degree that the person may boil with anger, but be afraid to express it. This would be a classic aspect for passive-aggression. The Sun in the 12th may make one insecure about shining one’s light, standing out and standing up for one’s unique identity. Saturn in the 12th may want to join in a group, but will wait on the sidelines, for fear of rejection. Pluto in the 12th may push his primal emotions in to the realm of fantasy and be driven by sexual fantasies that seem to propel him to places he does not wish to go. Uranus in the 12th house may, similarly, have fetishes and unusual ways that may cause him to feel he is different in a way that may feel hopeless. Jupiter in the 12th house may make the person feel as if luck is elusive. Other people seem to get all the breaks while he watches from the sidelines. Jupiter in the 12th may protect the person from near miss accidents . It is called the Guardian Angel placement. Neptune is the easiest planet to have in the 12th house, but it is not easy. No 12th house placement is. This person may be psychic. I have this.

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posted January 02, 2012 09:19 AM            

Saturn in the 12th makes for a lot of insecurity and self doubt.It is like a fog that stays with the person. Do you feel this?
As such, you may hang back and not join a group of people, for example. You may think,"They won't like me, anyway".
You may have this awful nagging feeling of"never good enough"

His Pluto touches this, exactly.

I just did an article on Pluto. You will understand if you read it.

He prolly touches your deepest fears and insecurities with his primal passions and opens you up as a shut down flower opens to bloom.

I was feeling this before I saw the chart, but the chart confirms it.

However, this aspect is a cruelty aspect from him to you, I am quite sure. I am going to do a thread in Astro 2 about it, now.
If it is not outright cruelty, he wants to control you, I am quite sure.

So, you have him loving you as you have never been loved, perhaps, with the Ceres, opening your passions up, perhaps, and being cruel and dark, on top of that.

Does that describe the relationship?

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posted January 02, 2012 09:19 AM            

My dear friends asked me to write about Pluto in the houses. First, I would like to talk about Pluto, on it’s own. Pluto rules Scorpio. Scorpio is unique in being the most passionate sign of the Zodiac. Some planets do wonderfully in Scorpio. They fit, as a hand in a glove. Others squirm under the intensity as if held too tightly in a suit which is too small. Each planet rules a part of us. Pluto rules our passions. I was listening to Bolero by Ravel. That is Pluto. Music expresses Pluto best. If you listen to an opera with your heart and soul and put your mind in suspended animation, you will touch Pluto.

As one can imagine, some people are in touch with their Pluto energy. Some are not. If you have Saturn in Scorpio, your primal passions may seem like aliens. Everyone has a Saturn in some sign. As such, some energy will be harder for each of us. I did an article on Saturn in the signs. You can check out yours and see if this is the case. However, back to Pluto. The Mars sign which deals with Pluto the best is Mars in Scorpio. They seem to morph in to a feral animal with the grace and majesty of a tiger in the wild. Mars in Scorpio deals with primal passions as a Gemini deals with words, effortlessly, naturally. Many other signs stumble in these places that have no direction but the drumbeat of one’s own soul.

Pluto is a force to which one must deal,either willingly or forcibly. If one does not embrace one’s own Pluto, one will be brought to one’s knees when Pluto comes by in transit(in the present day skies). If one thought one could live in the cerebral realms,one will be disavowed of this notion when Pluto comes by. Pluto is akin to the Three Little Pigs. Each house fell at the hands of the wolf except the one built with bricks. One’s life will be torn down, in the same way, if one thinks Pluto can be consigned to the attic or the basement while one goes out in to the world in a tailored suit with carefully placed diamond cufflinks. Pluto will blow all houses down except those constructed of bricks, which is reality, a true understanding of what is inside of ourselves, and hence, what is in others.

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posted January 02, 2012 09:24 AM            

Your Neptune conjuncts his Vertex. You are to bring him God and spirituality.Is this true? I have this with someone now. That is my reason for being in his life. It is not romantic, though.

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posted January 02, 2012 09:28 AM            

If I had not surrendered to God, and let God take it, I may have been in real trouble.I don't know but I do know that if any relationship is going to take you down, it will be a Nessus one.

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posted January 02, 2012 09:30 AM            

This is powerful and soul type of connection, I think.

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posted January 02, 2012 09:35 AM            

I have seen in 6-7 times in my own life, with platonic friends, male and female.

Now, if I even see Chiron touching my personal planets, I tell the person. I have two of these relationships left

The key is to give each other lots and lots of space, as you get close really fast.

I have the two female friends left lol

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posted January 02, 2012 09:38 AM            

I wanted to do your synastry,today, as I know you were waiting.

My conclusion is that this is one of the MOST intense relationships I have ever seen.

It has everything from true devotion, true nurturing, electric passion and dark energy.

You need to access God in order to deal with this relationship, imo.

I am here, by your side, to help, as best as I can.

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posted January 02, 2012 09:42 AM            

If someone tells me about their relationship, in such a way that they feel they are going to die if they don’t get the person, I KNOW it is a Nessus/Dejaneria relationship. Why is the Nessu/Dejaneria relationship so powerful? I think it brings up childhood abuse. When you are abused, you equate abuse with love .You don’t want to It makes no sense, but you do. Abuse and love are intertwined. When you feel the Nessus in another person, it feels like your abuser. You may not like it or want it, but you are compelled to repeat it. The Nessus/Dejaneria relationship is the stuff of Wuthering Heights, Gone with the Wind and Romeo and Juliet. It is the stuff of which romance novels are made. It sweeps you up and away. You can’t help it. It has the power of eons of love stories and hearts which wanted to touch their true love. Nessus/Dejaneria is inexorable. What happens at the end? I don’t know. I don’t know the end.. I know that the passions are those of which murders and lusts and rapes and kingdoms rising and falling, are made. Nessus and Dejaneria cannot be taken lightly. Do so at your own peril. You see what happened to Romeo and Juliet. This is Nessus. This is Dejaneria. Use wisdom.

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posted January 02, 2012 09:42 AM            

Dejanira is a fascinating Asteroid, as is Nessus, it’s pair. In relationships which feel obsessive, you can be sure to find these Asteroids in a prominent place.

I can feel a Nessus/ Deja relationship just from talking to a person. It has a certain intensity, a do or die feeling. It seems that you do not have many of these relationships, but you remember the few, very well.

The person who has his Nessus touching the other person’s crucial planets wants to abuse. He does not have to do so, necessarily, and hopefully not, but he feels the urge. The Deja person feels the urge to submit. These relationships have the darkest parts of human nature to deal with. The opportunity for huge transformation exists. The possibility for abuse is there, also, so one must be very wise when one finds oneself in such a relationship.

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