posted January 15, 2012 12:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Saturn in Virgo–Being meticulous with details, paying attention to small things, being practical about bills, papers and organization may be hard for you

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posted January 15, 2012 12:28 PM            

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posted January 15, 2012 12:29 PM            

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posted January 15, 2012 12:31 PM            

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Originally posted by gillbug:
TRUE. Tending to the little details in a routine, practical way IS hard. When I muster the effort, it feels good to get the ball rolling, but that enthusiasm soon dries up. I've been told before that developing more self discipline and attention to detail will be essential to implement any of the 'big picture' ideas I have. This is making a lot of sense, knowing that this trait is written in my chart!

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Yes Gil This is why i am so passionate about Astrology. It can FREE you. It is so very powerful!

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posted January 15, 2012 12:37 PM            

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Saturn in the First House
By amiann | Published: December 26, 2011 |
Each planet has an energy. All life, every single substance, is made up of energy, even a rock. Each planet has a specific energy. With Saturn, it is restriction. Saturn is like a stern father. He makes you work for every penny. At the end, you may have a substantial allowance, but you will have broken your back for it,or close to it. With this in mind, I will try to apply Saturn to the first house. The first house is our exterior self, the mask we wear in to the world. However, it is a mask which is glued on. It is not a “fake” self. It is our outer self, the self one would meet if one saw us on a job interview. It is our cocktail party self. It is not our deep friend or lover self. With this in mind, Saturn in the first house may make us appear serious and overly responsible. Actually, we ARE serious about life. We are serious about our responsibilities. If you ask this Saturn to do a task, he will. He will work at it until it is done, and done well.If not, he will feel guilty. This Saturn has a lot of guilt. He wants to be perfect, not to impress others, as much as to feel as if he is acceptable, finally. It is an inferiority complex Saturn.It must struggle, mightily, to gain an ounce of confidence, which comes so easily to others, such as someone with Jupiter or the Sun in the first house.

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Oh my- I should stop being surprised by the accuracy of this reading, shouldn't I? In all seriousness, I do come across and I guess 'put across' a serious mask. I want to be taken seriously and to show I should be taken seriously, but the interesting point has always been, 'why?' The themes of feeling a need to prove myself (saturn in 1st hse people), guilt and taking responsibility seriously all resonate VERY strongly. In fact, many of my issues with my estranged father seemed to stem from this. I always felt that I tried hard to be accepted and gain his approval, yet it always fell short. I'm guessing it won't be a surprise to know I don't easily trust people, esp men, until I 'sound them out'.

Will read the links you posted- thanks!

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posted January 15, 2012 12:44 PM            

Let me describe it. You can put down roots of emotional stability when you need it, almost as if a tree puts roots in the ground. Do you know what I mean, Sweetie?

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posted January 15, 2012 12:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Your chart is not that hard, as you have no 12th house planets which are the hardest!

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posted January 15, 2012 12:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You have some STRONG Saturn aspects for personal stability. You have one of my faves--Saturn trine moon--exact. I have it at 6 degrees and I feel it helped me do much.

Let me describe it. You can put down roots of emotional stability when you need it, almost as if a tree puts roots in the ground. Do you know what I mean, Sweetie?

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posted January 15, 2012 01:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Lets work on your natal since you are such a baby in Astrology

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Lol I've always been interested in astrology but probably quite superficially (Sun, Moon, Venus, Rising etc).

posted January 15, 2012 01:48 PM            

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posted January 15, 2012 01:55 PM            

Many different factors make for a difficult chart. I will address a few. The hardest would be planets in the 12th house, which is the door to the next dimension, death, mysticism, addictions and creativity. Twelfth house placements may make one too raw and sensitive for this world. Another factor would be Saturn, the planet of restriction. It may give one deep, insecurity. When Saturn touches the Sun(basic identity) or one’s Moon(deepest, innermost self), one may doubt even the smallest of decisions or actions. Saturn touching any planet brings some sort of restriction. Saturn touching Venus makes love hard. Saturn touching Mars makes assertion hard. Hard aspects to Mercury may make for a struggle in one’s mental health. Mercury is one’s mind. I cringe when I see Mercury touching Uranus in a hard aspect. This can unbalance the mind. Uranus is an electrical planet. It is the planet of genius, but genius gone too far may lead to insanity. If one wants to address asteroids, one can look at the “dark” asteroids such as Nessus, the abuser’s asteroid, Dejaneria, the victim’s asteroid, Sedna, the betrayed one’s asteroid, Ixion, the outlaw’s asteroid . Also, the Child asteroid shows what happened to one, as a child. If the Child Asteroid is conjnct Dejaneria, you may have been victimized. If it is conjunct Sedna, you may have been betrayed by a father. If it conjuncts Nessus, you may have been abused with no thought for your well being.

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posted January 15, 2012 01:56 PM            

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posted January 15, 2012 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You have some STRONG Saturn aspects for personal stability. You have one of my faves--Saturn trine moon--exact. I have it at 6 degrees and I feel it helped me do much.

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Saturn trine to moon- not sure what to think. Sometimes I almost feel like my stability is unhelpful--but this just might be me taking that quality for granted. In what ways has this been noticeably helpful to you, if you don't mind me asking?

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posted January 15, 2012 02:17 PM            

Saturn has been met with fear and trepidation. It was thought to bode hard times. Jupiter, its opposite was thought to bring the opposite, good tidings. However, as Astrology has evolved out of the Dark Ages to present times, one must re-evaluate Saturn. Astrology is an all inclusive system, in that it covers all aspects of life. Life has both sweet and sour, difficult and easy. Life is not one note–Middle C. Life is all the notes with the sharps and the flats. As such, Saturn tempers us. Jupiter makes us enthusiastic. We could fly to the clouds. Saturn says” Put on your mittens. It is cold.”

Saturn, in the chart, may represent one’s father. A good father will be strict. He will not allow one to think one is the center of the Universe. He will not allow one to bound out,unbridled in a Jupiter-like fashion, throwing caution to the wind. A good father will be stern, as it is for one’s best interest. Saturn is like this. We don’t like Saturn to spoil our fun. However, if you eat too much candy, you will get a stomachache. Saturn would have told you to be sensible and, just, have one.

As such, Saturn makes one work for one’s career, ones money, one’s rewards, one’s prestige, one’s place in life. If one works hard, one can achieve. Saturn rules the tenth house, which is the house of career and society.Saturn knows that one must build one’s reputation slowly, but one can lose it, in an instant. As needed as Saturn is, Saturn CAN get oppressive when placed in strategic places in the chart. Then, Saturn may squeeze one as a python around one’s neck. Can one get out of the choke hold? I am not sure. I hate to sugar coat life. I find it hurts people, more than helps them. Cold heard reality can be more of a peace than the fluff of cotton candy which seems to be delicious, but does not satisfy beyond the first tastes.

As such, I am a realistic Astrologer. God can overcome our charts, to a degree, but one must define overcome. We will never be perfect. Life will never be perfect. It comes down to working with the energies we have been given with as much grace, as we can muster, in my opinion.

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