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Ami Anne
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posted January 19, 2012 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
Vesta trine Lust (exact)
Vesta sextile Child (exact)
Vesta sextile Chiron (1 degree)
Vesta trine Cupido (2 degrees)
Vesta conjunct Nessus (2 degrees)
Vesta square P.fortune (3 degrees)

Hera square Saturn (Exact)
Hera conjunct Sappho (2 degrees)
Hera sextile Hekate (2 degrees)
Hera sextile P.Fort (2 degrees)
Hera sextile Neptune (3 degrees)
Hera square Cupido (3 degrees)
Hera square Fortuna (3 degrees)
Hera trine Pluto (4 degrees)
Hera square Dejanira (4 degrees)

Psyche square Juno (1 degree)
Psyche sextile Pholus (1 degree)
Psyche sextile Orcus (3 degrees)



Great info. I am gonna put you to work looking up asteroids

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posted January 19, 2012 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
Chart of a successful Oracle in an Ancient Greek lifeline who failed to find true love (in that lifeline) in spite of being very attractive.


I wanted to visit Greece WITH my love for the longest time.. couldn't find that one. I guess now I know why I got that strong attraction to going there..

My past lifeline is so sad... I feel sorry for her...

You emphasised that lifeline... I guessed, my current lifeline is not that way? I'm seriously spooked now...

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posted January 19, 2012 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Great info. I am gonna put you to work looking up asteroids


YEAH!!! I got so much to learn.. I'll do any research on any asteroids you throw my way!!

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posted January 19, 2012 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kewl
research Hera and Pars Fortune. I know the others and thank you so very much! This will be fun and informative!

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posted January 19, 2012 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OOOOooo... Hera is Juno in Greek, both refering to Goddness of Marriage. In this link, there is the explaination of Hera in various signs. I relate to Hera a lot (I have exact Venus conjunct Hera at 23 degree). The ridiculous loyalty-once-committed I feel is irrational.. I mean, despite anything?!?! But yeah, I know I am like that too.. Jealousy? Ney...not really. I have moon in aquarius and hera/venus conjunction is in Gemini.

This very interesting article talks about the differences between Venus and Hera - both being the only two Olympus goddesses were legally married. The most significant difference between the two is that Hera took her vows seriously whereas Venus did not. Okie, the interesting note to take here is that Hera was seen in equal stature with her husband, greatly revered and respected, and always portrayed as a majestic and beautiful woman with her hair adorned with a diadem(I like this description!! ) Astrological implication of Hera in chart is that: Hera/Juno is the prognosticator of the frustrated unhappy member of a marital union, whatever the reason; couldn't leave an unhappy marriage. Transits of Juno to natal chart shows courtship, marriage, weddings, separations, or divorce.

More reading materials:

Wikipedia
MythWeb
Sylvia Sosa @ arthistory.sbc.edu
This gives a pretty detailed write up on the myth of Hera and her marriage with Zeus and episodes of her mad with jealousy over Zeus' cheating.

Will continue another day. 1am here... Gdnite!!

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posted January 19, 2012 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Sweetie
I understand Juno, but did not know they were the same. Does Juno in transit bode poorly for marriage? Why would that be when it is such a "good" asteroid?

I will look at some of your aspects. Tell me what you think.

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posted January 19, 2012 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me me me... I wanna go to Greece... sigh... never paid much attention to my humanities class in college. lol.

I can't see Hera in you and you being unhappy in marriage!!

I'm sure I've told you this already, but my Moon is in Gemini and Venus is in Aquarius, which is a peculiar coincidence since the two moons and two venuses conjunct.

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posted January 20, 2012 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Me me me... I wanna go to Greece... sigh... never paid much attention to my humanities class in college. lol.

I can't see Hera in you and you being unhappy in marriage!!

I'm sure I've told you this already, but my Moon is in Gemini and Venus is in Aquarius, which is a peculiar coincidence since the two moons and two venuses conjunct.


YEAH!!! I wanna go Greece... then Santorini!!!!

The myth said she was unhappy.

Yep! my moon conjunct your venus and my venus conjunct your moon. Lol. Well... I dun think that's dangerous. Maybe it just shows we get along great!!!

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posted January 20, 2012 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sweetie
Would you research Pars Fortune and see what it does in the chart, too. This is great. Thank you so much for looking up these things. I will continue on with your aspects.

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posted January 20, 2012 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok Lets do ASC conj Aphrodite. I don't understand about her. Could you look her up, please. In the meantime, I will do some I understand, for you.

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posted January 20, 2012 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vesta trine lust-exact
Vesta holds what she touches with devotion and uses it to help others. It is a beautiful asteroid. I would say that you can use your lust in a positive way. I would see this as being a wonderful sexual partner to someone.
Does this fit

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posted January 20, 2012 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ASC sextile Sun and Orchus
You are a strong person, identity wise. You have courage and can stand strong, in the face of obstacles. Does that fit? You have to dig for it, a bit, though, but it is there.

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posted January 20, 2012 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ASC square Armor
Could you please look up Armor? I am so happy you are helping me with these things!

This one would be a hard energy for you to integrate. The conjunctions would be easy. Lets see what Armor says and we will go form there to try to form one picture of you, not all these separate parts.

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posted January 20, 2012 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
ASC sextile Sun and Orchus
You are a strong person, identity wise. You have courage and can stand strong, in the face of obstacles. Does that fit? You have to dig for it, a bit, though, but it is there.


Very true. I am very sure about my identity regardless of what anyone's opinions. Courage to stand strong over obstacles... yes, after my saturn return, I feel there is nothing that life can throw at me that I can't handle... except perhaphs heartbreak?

Will be back... going to do mega research now!!!!

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posted January 20, 2012 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
YEAH!!! I wanna go Greece... then Santorini!!!!

Hopefully the trip to Santorini doesn't involve vessels with crews waving to girlfriends on the shore lol

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posted January 20, 2012 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fantastic Lilith
That is so interesting about your strong identity. I have had the opposite with Saturn Retro conj the ASC. I have had to fight for mine. I have Echo, there, too, which does not help

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posted January 20, 2012 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pars Fortuna

Wikipedia
In Astrology the term ‘Pars Fortuna’ represents a mathematical point in the zodiac. It represents an especially beneficial point in the horoscopic chart. In Arabic Astrology, this point is called Arabian Parts.

Cafeastrology
For day charts, Ascendant + Moon - Sun
For night charts, Ascendant + Sun - Moon

The Part of Fortune represents worldly success, and is associated with the physical body and health as well. It can be indicative of the career or vocation. Worldly success and prosperity are associated with the Part of Fortune, and both its sign and house placement suggests innate abilities and talents--areas of life and qualities that are expressed naturally that sets us on that path.

Arlene Kramer - Pars Fortune in House
Traditionally, the Part of Fortune indicates the area in the horoscope where the owner of the horoscope feels that "good fortune" is smiling on him. To some, "good fortune" means that money abounds, to others it means public recognition and acclaim, and to others, it means love, good health, and good luck. The clue, according to tradition, to the personal interpretation of "good fortune" lies in the sign and house placement of the Part of Fortune.

My Pars Fortune is in the 7th House -
PART OF FORTUNE IN THE SEVENTH HOUSE:
The person with his Part of Fortune in the seventh house was born soon after a Full Moon. He is a person who is so idealistic that he wants to see only the best in everything, in every person, in every situation, even in every problem. He is looking for quality in all his relationships because he is really seeking personal illumination. He would like to know his purpose in life. His personality shines through his relationships and partnerships. The Part of Fortune in the seventh house might lead to partnerships with wealthy people.


Arlene Kramer - Pars Fortune in Various Signs
Mine is in Aries in the 7th house.

Part of Fortune in ARIES: The characteristic style of the sign Aries is action: boldly, confidently, self-assertively. Aries exercises initiative. The person with the Part of Fortune in Aries will achieve happiness and success through innovative and creative efforts.

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posted January 20, 2012 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am confused... which to use when they all meant similar things? How to interprete with regards to each?

Part of Fortune is a mathematical point in astrology yet there is also an asteroid named Fortuna, which is Goddness of Fortune to Roman Religion and then she is equivalent to the Greek goddess Tyche, the goddess of luck/fortune.

My Tyche is at Pisces 9'18
My Pars of Fortune is at Aries 21'37
My Fortuna is at 20'23


I'm seriously confused..

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posted January 20, 2012 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, lets forget Pars Fortune

Tell me what you think of some of the other aspects I did.

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posted January 20, 2012 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ascendant trine psyche (exact)
Ascendant square abundantia (exact)
Ascendant conjunct aphrodite (1 degree)
Ascendant opposite pholus (1 degree)
Ascendant sextile sun (3 degrees)
Ascendant sextile orcus (3 degrees)
Ascendant conjunct karma (4 degrees)
Ascendant square Amor (4 degrees)

OK lets work on your ASC, first, so we don't jump around, too much.

I just need help on Amor and abundantia. Then, I will try to paint a picture of you.
Then, we can go on to the other asteroids .

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posted January 20, 2012 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wikipedia
1221 Amor is the namesake of the Amor asteroids, a group of near-Earth asteroids whose orbits range between those of Earth and Mars. Amor is named after the Roman god of love, better known as Cupid, and Eros is Cupid's Greek counterpart. Both Eros and Amor makes close approaches to earth and both are Mars crossers.

Mystic Marguerite
Amor: Asteroid Amor represents idealized love, a love not necessarily of this earth. Amor is not particularly sexual in expression, but radiates warmth and a sense of "Agape" or a love that is given without an expectation of receiving. The house where Amor is found is where the person expects to express this kind of love. The pain of an afflicted Amor can involve disillusionment over this altruistic love not being returned, or there may be something else one wants that will result in the denial of love
Difference between Eros and Amor - The former is erotic love with sexual conotation; the latter is unconditional love with no expectation of receiving. Cupid is the messenger of love.

Amor in Composite - Linda Land

Sun opposite Amor in Synastry

Okie, not much more information on Amor on the net... they pretty much are repetitive.

Will be back after breakfast!!!

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posted January 21, 2012 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Aphrodite is the Greek goddess of love, beauty, pleasure, and procreation. Her Roman equivalent is the goddess Venus. Historically, her cult in Greece was imported from, or influenced by, the cult of Astarte in Phoenicia.

According to Hesiod's Theogony, she was born when Cronus cut off Uranus' genitals and threw them into the sea, and from the sea foam (aphros) arose Aphrodite. Thus Aphrodite is of an older generation than Zeus.

Because of her beauty other gods feared that jealousy would interrupt the peace among them and lead to war, and so Zeus married her to Hephaestus, who was not viewed as a threat. Aphrodite had many lovers, both gods like Ares, and men like Anchises. Aphrodite also became instrumental in the Eros and Psyche legend, and later was both Adonis' lover and his surrogate mother. Many lesser beings were said to be children of Aphrodite.

Aphrodite is also known as Cytherea (Lady of Cythera) and Cypris (Lady of Cyprus) after the two cult-sites, Cythera and Cyprus, which claimed her birth. Myrtles, doves, sparrows, horses, and swans are sacred to her. The Greeks further identified the Ancient Egyptian goddess Hathor with Aphrodite. Aphrodite also has many other local names, such as Acidalia, Cytherea and Cerigo, used in specific areas of Greece. Each goddess demanded a slightly different cult but Greeks recognized in their overall similarities the one Aphrodite.

Greek Mythology - Aphrodite
In Greek mythology, Aphrodite is the goddess of love, beauty and sexual rapture. According to Hesiod, she was born when Uranus (the father of the gods) was castrated by his son Cronus. Cronus threw the severed genitals into the ocean which began to churn and foam about them. From the aphros ("sea foam") arose Aphrodite, and the sea carried her to either Cyprus or Cythera. Hence she is often referred to as Kypris and Cytherea. Homer calls her a daughter of Zeus and Dione.
After her birth, Zeus was afraid that the gods would fight over Aphrodite's hand in marriage so he married her off to the smith god Hephaestus, the steadiest of the gods. He could hardly believe his good luck and used all his skills to make the most lavish jewels for her. He made her a girdle of finely wrought gold and wove magic into the filigree work. That was not very wise of him, for when she wore her magic girdle no one could resist her, and she was all too irresistible already. She loved gaiety and glamour and was not at all pleased at being the wife of sooty, hard-working Hephaestus.

Aphrodite loved and was loved by many gods and mortals. Among her mortal lovers, the most famous was perhaps Adonis. Some of her sons are Eros, Anteros, Hymenaios and Aeneas (with her Trojan lover Anchises). She is accompanied by the Graces.

Greek Mythology - Aphrodite's divine loves + 16 pages of more info
ARES The God of War had a long love affair with Aphrodite which lasted for the duration of her marriage to Hephaistos and beyond. She bore him four divine sons: Eros, Anteros, Deimos, Phobos; and a daughter: Harmonia.
DIONYSOS The God of Wine who had a short affair with Aphrodite. Hera cursed the goddess to bear a horribly ugly child, Priapos, as punishment for her promiscuity. Some say Hermes Bakkheios (Iakkhos) was also their child.
HEPHAISTOS The God of Smiths was the husband of Aphrodite, who later divorced her following her adulterous love affair with Ares. Aphrodite was never happy with the marriage having been forced to wed him by decree of Zeus, as a gift for releasing his mother Hera from the bonds of the cursed golden throne.
HERMES The Messenger of the Gods seduced Aphrodite with the help of his father Zeus. She bore him a son, the godling Hermaphroditos (and some say Eros).
NERITES A young Sea-God who was the very first love of Aphrodite. When he refused to leave the sea to join her on Olympos, she transformed him into a shell-fish for his betrayal.
POSEIDON The great God of the Sea had an affair with Aphrodite who was grateful for his support following the revelation of her adulterous relationship with Ares. She bore him two daughters Rhodos and Herophilos.
ZEUS The King of the Gods attempted to seduce Aphrodite when she first set foot upon land in Kypros. Aphrodite fled and Zeus' seed was spilt upon the earth.

Mortal Loves
ADONIS A Prince of the island of Kypros (in West Asia), who was loved by Aphrodite. She bore him a daughter, Beroe, before he fell before the tusks of the jealous Ares disguised as a boar.
ANKHISES A Shepherd-Prince of Dardania (near Troy, Asia Minor) who was loved by the goddess Aphrodite - some say Zeus sought to punish her with a lowly mate for causing the gods to fall in love with an endless string of mortal women. She bore him two sons Aeneas and Lyros.
BOUTES A Lord of Attika (in Southern Greece) and one of the Argonauts. He was rescued by Aphrodite when he leapt into to the sea under the charm of the Seirenes. She carried him off to Italia as her lover and bore a son, Eryx.
PHAON Phaon was a boy loved by Aphrodite. He was perhaps the same as Phaethon (below) or Adonis.
PHAETHON An Athenian lord, son of the goddess Eos and her motal love Kephalos, who was carried off by Aphrodite to Syria. There she made him guardian of her temple and bore him a son Astynoos.

Lindaland - Aphrodite conjunct Saturn in natal explanation by iQ and you were in the thread too!

Lindaland - Astro Beauty This thread investigate the appealing factor of an individual in terms of how attractive she is based on aphrodite and hera.

Lindaland - Soul Mate calculator by iQ I stumbled upon it when I was finding information on aphrodite

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posted January 21, 2012 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fantastic I will start compiling a "picture" of you. Also, what aspects your ASC up to 6 degrees. List that by planet/asteroid etc the orb and from what house. After I get all this, I will try to write a paragraph on you

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posted January 21, 2012 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Vesta trine lust-exact
Vesta holds what she touches with devotion and uses it to help others. It is a beautiful asteroid. I would say that you can use your lust in a positive way. I would see this as being a wonderful sexual partner to someone.
Does this fit

lol.. I just saw this one. Seriously, I dun know if i am a wonderful sexual partner. But I'm willing to try anything he can conceive in his mind.. but problem is will he want to ? Thank god, I dun fall in love easily!

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posted January 21, 2012 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, you WILL be a wonderful sexual partner when the time comes

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