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tenny22
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posted January 20, 2012 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So far this feels very good to me, but I'm not that good at reading charts yet - HELP!!! I'm really feeling this guy

Thank you!!

(I am inner circle, he is outer circle)

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Ami Anne
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posted January 20, 2012 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Sweet One
I will look

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posted January 20, 2012 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am gonna be honest, or why bother? He hits your Saturn, big time, which might not feel good, long term.
You prolly have passion and connection off the wall with Eros hitting Chiron. However, I find these strong Chiron relationships don't last, except Chiron conj NN which lasts but is Hell

I will put up some info and we can talk!

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posted January 20, 2012 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When Chiron Touches a Planet/Asteroid in Synastry
By amiann | Published: January 14, 2012 |
This is a purely amazing subject.I am talking from my own personal experience, as well as the many charts I have done. Chiron is a weird-o. If I see Chiron coming in synastry, I hold my breath. Chiron will usually follow the same path, such that I know what he is up to, by now. I will try to explain what I have observed with Chiron in synastry. Please, add any comments yea or nay, as always. The planet person,usually, comes to the Chiron person for healing. The myth of Chiron is that of the wounded healer. Chiron can heal others from his wound, but he can never heal, himself. It is a sad story, as are most of the myths. However, the myths ring true . That is why they are so poignant.

In one chart, the mother’s Aqua Sun and mercury were an exact conjunction with the daughters Chiron. True to the myth, the mother wanted the daughter to parent her, guide her, and heal her. The daughter was a child and unable . The mother was very angry, as she thought it was her due, from being a mother. The relationship between mother and daughter was very hard. Ultimately, as happens with most Chiron relationships, it was too painful and broke apart to nothingness.

In another relationship between two girlfriends, they got close very fast, as is the case with Chiron. They felt they had found their best friend. It was wonderfully close, for as long as it lasted. There was an unusual depth and connection. There seems to be a loyalty,too. While the Chiron relationship lasts, it can be very positive. It can fill a void for each person. It can provide an intense connection which acts for the good of both people. In other words, it can be very positive while it lasts. However, when it breaks apart, that can be expected. When that happens, one must celebrate what was and let the person go. In the latter, it was an exact Venus/ Chiron conjunction in synastry.

Another example is a platonic male/female relationship. His mars was conjunct her Chiron. Again, they got very close, very fast. It was wonderfully healing, for as long as it lasted. Then, there was a small misunderstanding and it split apart, as fast as it had come together.

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posted January 20, 2012 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The strangest one was between two girlfriends.One girl’s Nessus was conjunct the other’s Chiron. The strangeness of the aspect, exactly, mirrored the strangeness of the relationship, from beginning to end. They started off as close friends. Then, they became bitter enemies. Then, they became very close, in the best friends way that is classic with Chiron. Then, the split apart over a small misunderstanding which was impossible to resolve, even though it should have been easy. The Nessus/ Chiron one was the strangest in that the Chiron person dropped off the face of the earth to the Nessus person, who had been her closest friend, just before. However, due to the intensity of each planet/ asteroid, one would expect such a bizarre course of events.

I will mention the North Node and Chiron, here., even though I talked about it in a separate article.This one must be stated, as Chiron will become the theme of the relationship. If a married couple has one person’s Chiron conjunct another’s North Node, there will be a pain theme in the relationship. Chiron, by nature, cannot heal. As such, there will be an open wound as the core of the relationship. This is very sad.

I have guidelines for any Chiron relationships. One must give a lot of space to each other, if the relationship is to last. Can it last? I don’t know . I know that NN/ Chiron can last, but one will be well versed in pain, as a result.

A wonderful Astrologer, Ceridwen, , just added this. It was too marvelous, not to share.
Yes, Chiron is strange.
But in a strange way it is also deep soulstuff, I find that it renders someone completely vulnerable. As if you had shed every protective skin, and you can only hope the other one will not hurt you so much, that it might destroy you. Sort of like your core lies totally open, and you don`t have any kind of defenses.

Thank you, Ceri!

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posted January 20, 2012 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn
By amiann | Published: January 15, 2012 |
Saturn has been met with fear and trepidation. It was thought to bode hard times. Jupiter, its opposite, was thought to bring the opposite, good tidings. However, as Astrology has evolved out of the Dark Ages to present times, one must re-evaluate Saturn. Astrology is an all inclusive system, in that it covers all aspects of life. Life has both sweet and sour, difficult and easy. Life is not one note–Middle C. Life is all the notes with the sharps and the flats. As such, Saturn tempers us. Jupiter makes us enthusiastic. We feel as if we could fly to the clouds. Saturn says” Put on your mittens. It is cold.”

Saturn, in the chart, may represent one’s father. A good father will be strict. He will not allow one to think one is the center of the Universe. He will not allow one to bound out,unbridled in a Jupiter-like fashion, throwing caution to the wind. A good father will be stern, as it is for one’s best interest. Saturn is like this. We don’t like Saturn to spoil our fun. However, if you eat too much candy, you will get a stomachache. Saturn would have told you to be sensible.

As such, Saturn makes one work for one’s career, ones money, one’s rewards, one’s prestige, one’s place in life. If one works hard, one can achieve. Saturn rules the tenth house, which is the house of career and society.Saturn knows that one must build one’s reputation slowly, but one can lose it, in an instant. As necessary as Saturn is, Saturn CAN get oppressive when placed in strategic places in the chart. Then, Saturn may squeeze one as a python around one’s neck. Can one get out of the choke hold? I am not sure. I hate to sugar coat life. I find it hurts people, more than helps them. Cold hard reality can be more of a peace than the fluff of cotton candy which seems to be delicious, but does not satisfy.

As such, I am a realistic Astrologer. God can overcome our charts, to a degree, but one must define overcome. We will never be perfect. Life will never be perfect. It comes down to working with the energies we have been given with as much grace, as we can muster, in my opinion.

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tenny22
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posted January 20, 2012 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami!!!

Thank you so much for looking at this for me.
I see his venus,NN, Eris and nessus are right on my saturn.

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posted February 25, 2012 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amy

You were so right about this one. I can't take this, I'm jumping ship - he's a yoyo and I'm getting out of it before it does any harm

taurus is still in the picture . . .

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posted February 25, 2012 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well done for posting your aspect grid.

the only problem I have with what you posted is the orbs, they need to reduced to 40% as the max orb between planets is 3'
but as you posted the grid we can see easily what is over 3' and disregard them..

Nodal contacts are very important as are Saturn as these suggest karmic links. But venus/node conj saturn is challenging nonetheless.

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Venus conjunct other person's Saturn

This contact can represent a binding tie, but not without its share of challenges. The Saturn person tends to have the effect of stabilizing the Venus person's emotions, and much will depend on how the Venus person reacts and the how maturely the Saturn person acts upon the Venus person. Commitment, loyalty, and responsibility are vital defining factors of this relationship. Both persons will need to be aware of a tendency to be too insistent on attention from one another, and well as of the tendency to restrict each other's sense of freedom. The Saturn person needs to be wary of a too cool approach towards the Venus person's loving gestures, particularly as time passes. The Saturn person tends to feels responsible for the Venus person, but should avoid becoming too parental with him or her. The Venus person may feel restricted or downright repressed by the Saturn person. This combination is one indication of mutual dependence. If there isn't an inordinate number of challenging aspects in the rest of the compatibility analysis, this is a good indication of a long-term, highly significant relationship. The Venus person may appreciate the Saturn person's guidance and loyalty, but could also see the Saturn person as too conservative and socially restrictive. There can be a depressing effect. As well, the Saturn person may see the Venus person as delightfully cheerful. On the other side of the coin, if the Saturn person is feeling insecure, he or she could find the Venus person to be childishly emotional or extravagant. It is quite natural for you to commit to one another. As time passes, the Saturn person could feel threatened by changes or growth in the Venus person's love nature, and needs to avoid criticizing the Venus person for any new behaviors. Individual growth does not necessarily mean growing apart.

Venus in hard aspect (square, opposition, semi-square, or sesquiquadrate) to other person's Saturn

Although this relationship may begin with a strong feeling of comfort and compatibility, over time, some very challenging dynamics are likely to surface. The Saturn person, fearing the Venus person's withdrawal of affection, loyalty, or respect, can easily become critical or demanding of the Venus person. In response to Saturn's critical demeanor, Venus may withhold affection. A vicious circle can quickly occur. The Venus person could begin to view the Saturn person as unsympathetic, and the Saturn person could come to view the Venus person as childish and undisciplined. Care should be taken to avoid getting into this negative cycle. It will be important for you to maintain an adequate social life, as the tendency with this interchart aspect is to appease one another's jealous nature by cutting oneself off from hobbies, social activities, and pleasures outside of the relationship. You may be critical of one another's tastes and hobbies, but at the root of this is some form of jealousy over the attention that you give to outside interests. Commitment and loyalty to one another will be vital, but also the source of some friction. http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/venus_saturn_aspects.html


Now having said this you have a LOT of easy flowing aspects between you.
mercury conj his venus retro mars conj. This could cause some friction but venus/mars is highly sexual, but aquarius really prefers a slow friendship first. But we see venus is retrograde (going backwards), so could be bit slow on the uptake.

Your natal moon conj uranus shows an early break with mother, women and friends and is on my list of divorce aspects. Your moon trine his venus mars is *excellent*

Scorpio Asc is not overly sociable and very private sign that doesn't give much away to others. His Asc in late gemini shows a good communicator poss difficult childhood. I call them the *Why* children, they can drive their parents mad asking questions ALL the time, until the parents eventually either close down, or shut off from incessant questions. then the child begins to feel like a square peg in round hole within family.....

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posted February 25, 2012 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
scorpio Asc and gemini Asc are quincunx signs 150' away from each other

Gemini is air and mutable sign. All air signs want to talk and Gemini is real chatterbox, tends to know a little about a lot but not in great depth. Gemini like Libra can really procrastinate and be indecisive and are usually attracted to strong partners who want to make the decisions for the relationship, like Leo or Scorpio. Likes variety, witty and quick and clever with their minds and tongues, but unreliable and very restless.

ALL mutuable signs, Gemini, Sagittarius, Pisces and Virgo are restless and I have found the reason. They are all somehow looking for the divine answers to the meaning of life and somehow just think its always around the next corner or out of reach. Some are perpetual students thinking that if they have enough information, they will have all the answers that everyone else wants to know about.

Scorpio, there is nothing restless here but grimly determined and wanting the control and power in any relationship and wont understand their restlessness and need for variety and stimulus and why they don’t like or want to make any decisions. Gemini wont understand for Scorpio need to control everything and possible use sex and method of controlling. You find an awful lot of Gemini in service industry, shops, stores where they don’t have to deal with anyone on a deep and meaningful level (scorpio always wants deep and meaningful but wont get it with Gemini) just superficial. Gemini will probably find the digging and delving rather draining.

your moon trine 120' his venus/mars is execellent. No relationship is without hope and having so many good interaspects may help offset the poss challenges.

Your North Node in Gemini in 8th house may well be helped by his Gemini Asc. I call thenm the *why children* and drive their parents mad with questions, until finally a parent switches off and goes vacant. Then the child begins to feel like a square peg in a round hole within family. It can suggest a hard chidhood.

now Node in Gemini is learning to come away from south Node Saggi 2nd house. second house is too reliant on self earning capacity and self esteem, values and beliefs and is here to learn about other peoples beliefs and values in 8th house, as well as joint finances, insurance, inheritance and also sex, the most intimate deep and meaningful connection two people can have..

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posted February 25, 2012 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
there is a chiron square mercury and chiron sextile node which is very helpful

if you want to do some research yourself on this matter

If you want to research more into synastry try here http://cafeastrology.com/astrology_of_relationships.html http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/interchartaspects.html http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry_house_overlays.html http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastry-houses.html http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastryaspects.html http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/astrology-marriage.html http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17513 http://www.astrotheme.com/synastry_advice.php http://www.astrology-x-files.com/synastry/ascendant.html http://astrologyfiles.com/free-horoscope-matching/ http://www.skyviewzone.com/lovematch/sunsynastryhouse.htm
Communications in synastry is very important, and this article discussed the elements involved ie: fire, earth air and water http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/synastrymercury.html

You could have the best synastry in the world, but unless you have good communications, are honest with each other about your needs, wishes and desires and 'both' of you want the same things...........then nothing will happen. It cannot make anyone change, or love you more. Some challenging squares, oppositions in synastry can be healthy, and may require one or both of you to grow in some way. Astrological natal charts cannot explain environmental factors, financial handicaps/ restraints and what position you hold in society, neither can it tell you if you are of ‘Royalty’ or beggar.

I am of the belief that people come in and out of our lives for a reason, either we have to teach them something or we have to learn something from them. There is Always an exchange, good or bad.

Good luck with your journey

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posted February 25, 2012 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aw Tenny I just saw this thread
a yo-yo

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posted March 02, 2012 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SaggiMC

Thank you! I will look up what you suggested!

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posted March 02, 2012 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SaggiMC:
scorpio Asc and gemini Asc are quincunx signs 150' away from each other

Gemini is air and mutable sign. All air signs want to talk and Gemini is real chatterbox, tends to know a little about a lot but not in great depth. Gemini like Libra can really procrastinate and be indecisive and are usually attracted to strong partners who want to make the decisions for the relationship, like Leo or Scorpio. Likes variety, witty and quick and clever with their minds and tongues, but unreliable and very restless.



SOOOOOO on point!!! I give Pisces a lot of freedom and he makes it seem like I'm ignoring him. He chatters but can be very deep and soulful sometimes. Intoxicating, infuriating, enchanting.

Also on point about the hard youth

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posted March 02, 2012 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Aw Tenny I just saw this thread
a yo-yo


Hi Ami!!! Yes, a yo-yo for sure.

Both Pisces and Taurus won't leave . . .

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posted March 02, 2012 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tenny22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SaggiMC

Thanks for the great links!!

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posted March 03, 2012 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've just finished a series of tutorials for learning astrology...

In Astrology 2.0 forum, beginners learning astrology http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212463.html

in Astrology 2.0 forum, What’s next for learning (intermediate) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212464.html

In Astrology 2.0 what’s next for learning (advanced) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212465.html

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posted March 03, 2012 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why dontcha try and see if you can tell your own compatibility? :P

Compare the composite with these:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/002840.html

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posted March 03, 2012 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Why dontcha try and see if you can tell your own compatibility? :P

Compare the composite with these:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/002840.html


Ya think

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