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orlando
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posted January 27, 2012 05:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for orlando     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Updated.

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lilithpluto
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posted January 27, 2012 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a learning but I'll give my best try. The first thing that struck me about the composite chart is the composite moon conjunct uranus - this is a sign that emotional freedom will be a theme in this relationship. Composite sun opposite neptune may make you two believe things about each other which may not be true causing either one or both of you to lose sense of reality. There is also the composite Saturn opposite Ascendant - a restrictive aspect that may mean limitations, whether it will work out will depend on individuals (googled this ). Composite venus trine mars is sweet, forming a grand trine with Saturn

Synastry wise, there is the sun-sun trine... your mars, moon and pluto is in her 6th house. If I remembered correctly, iQ mentioned before in one of my threads that moon in partner's 6th house, long term wise, there will be fustrations in the relationship.

you may want to include the love asteriods (VALENTINE [447], UNION [1585], APHORIDTE [1388], LUST[4386] and KARMA [3811]) in your chart if you are interested in more analysis. Sometimes if there is not much aspects between planets, there may be with the asteroids.

Keep the thread bumped while waiting for answers from the other Knowflakes.

Welcome to Linda Land!!

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SaggiMC
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posted January 27, 2012 11:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html

astrology is great tool BUT it cannot make anything happen

What Astrology Can and Can Not Do http://www.ofspirit.com/susanmiller1.htm http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/whatastrologycandoforyou.html http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_kdvalue_e.htm

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orlando
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posted January 27, 2012 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for orlando     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lilithpluto, thanks for the warm welcome to LInda Land! It's really nice to find such a lovely astro community. also thanks for your "reading". I'm just starting in this myself and don't know as much. I've updated the charts above to include the love asteriods. I hope this helps.

Moon conj. Uranus, yes it seems at least she needs a great deal of freedom to feel okay in our friendship. Each time I want to get closer, she pulls away.

Sun opp. Neptune, I think I'm the one with the losing sense of reality. It's been hard for me not to see in all of this more than it's really there.

Didn't know moon in partners 6th could mean frustrations in relationship. Interesting. Thanks for your insight!

SaggiMC, thanks for the links and articles. I know astrology can't make anything happen, butt I find it useful to reflect on relationships through the lenses of astrology nevertheless. And you all seem like knowledgeable people here, so I'm really grateful for all kinds of insights

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posted January 27, 2012 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamy_AriesGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel for you!
I've been in a very similar situation, and unfortunately the best thing you can do is letting her and the whole relationship go

But i know its hard.
I used to see my platonic friend on a daily basis for years, then it changed becasue we had different feelings for each other, and so our relationship has fallen apart, I've only seen him 3 times in the last year. Which is sad and very difficoult for me at times, but it's part of life and you know everything has a reason, so just go on with your life.

In your synastry I see that there's a Venus square Neptune (what she has natally too), whihc can indicate platonic/one-sided relationships.

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posted January 27, 2012 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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lilithpluto
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posted January 27, 2012 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by orlando:
lilithpluto, thanks for the warm welcome to LInda Land! It's really nice to find such a lovely astro community. also thanks for your "reading". I'm just starting in this myself and don't know as much. I've updated the charts above to include the love asteriods. I hope this helps.


Yep! Its really nice here in Lindaland. When I first started out in any forum, normally, my threads got ignored and floats all the way down to the bottom very soon.

No such issue here. Many friendly people. In fact my first readings here was done by Ami and she welcomed me the moment I post. I thought that was one of the most heart warming thing a stranger can do.

Just keep it bumped while waiting.

I'm new with asteroids too.. I dun wanna comment. Let's wait for Ami!

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RunAroundScreaming
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posted January 30, 2012 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to bother you, but could you also post the charts without the 40% orb thing? Thank you, and sorry for the extra work.

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orlando
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posted January 31, 2012 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for orlando     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dreamy_AriesGirl, thanks for your advice and for sharing your story with me. It is hard to let go. Although I would still like to keep our friendhsip going if possible. I'll see how it goes though.

Ami Anne, thanks for the warm welcome!

lilithpluto, It does seem like a really friendly forum. I really miss this with other forums on the net, so it is a pleasant surprise.

RunAroundScreaming, no bother at all. I'm attaching the charts without the 40% orb below.

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RunAroundScreaming
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posted February 01, 2012 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey there there really is nothin going on here in eithe synastry or conposite so I can understand why she doesnt feel the same way for you. Maybe venus and sun in negative aspect to neptune is making you see qualities in her that arent really there?

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lilithpluto
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posted February 01, 2012 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Moon, Mars, Pluto, Karma, Aphrodite and lust are all in her 6th house.... this could be the issue.

And her Karma is in your 6th house....... okie, if i remembered correctly, this may a sign of karmic relationship focused on themes of 6th house. Honestly, I'm very newbie with asteroids, I'm not sure if I'm right (waiting for someone to correct me if I'm wrong), just wanna reply to make you feel better.

I don't know how close your aspects are but your True Node conjunct her Union closely. I don't know how this will work out.. we just have to wait for someone to answer that.

Your Lust on her Neptune... you are not seeing her clearly.. this is already highlighted in your composite chart.

Keep bumping if you are still interested to know more.


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RunAroundScreaming
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posted February 01, 2012 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh wait a minute...i just noticed you have venus square mars. Are you the mars? Bingo. That's got to be the reason for the attraction. I had this with simar aspects that you have with her with a guy except it was venus opposite mars and we were friends and i also liked him sooo much. We didnt have pluto in the composite or synastry, just a lot of neptune and jupiter, so i think pluto is the reason why u seem to like her a lot more, and also prob bc a venus mars square is much more driving than the opposition.

Either way, it doesnt seem like that composite has much substance, just like my composite with him didnt have much substance. I eventually got over him after not seeing him in school anymore. I think i'll post our composite abd synastry later to show you they were rather similar

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SaggiMC
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posted February 01, 2012 12:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
not sure why you reduced the orb ratio down on your natal chart to 40%, this orb is only used in syn bi wheels.... although i do reduce natals down to 85% to bring in line with more mainstream views..

natally you have a nice kite configuration AND a cradle with the outers being sun/neptune. I have this one..

Cradle configuration
two x talent triangles or minor grand trines, the outer two linked by an opposition. It seems to be a mixed blessing, with potential but to due them being easy aspects can lack the follow through to achieve. In male chats can lean towards extrovert, and in female charts passive, introvert qualities there is a need to be careful not to scatter energies without achieving much.

“The Cradle configuration has two Wedge figures in it, providing two different ways to potentially escape from the stress - or transform it into creativity”. http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/cradle_configuration.html
http://www.astrotheme.com/files/figu...ed-aspects.php http://cafeastrology.com/articles/aspectpatterns.html
Cafeastrology calls this aspect Trapeze, which with my own research is not, but something different. The glossary below explains the differences. http://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/astrology/I-so-TOTALLY-have-a-Cradle-2271823.asp http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1554 http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology...e_cradle.shtml

“The apex planet can be a source of great creativity that channels the stress into positive, constructive activity, although the stress of the opposition may or may not finally be resolved. The Cradle has two Wedge figures in it, providing two different ways to potentially escape from the stress — or transform it into creativity. However, with so much opportunity to avoid problems, the temptation to take the easy way out is very strong. As a result, with a Cradle configuration in their chart may find it very difficult to resolve/heal the conflicts in their life represented by the opposition” http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/glossary/glossary_bc.htm
This last link is the best information available on this aspect

“The more the person can learn to face and resolve the conflict of the opposition, the more they will be able to use the talents and natural abilities in the Cradle in ways that are healthy, constructive and healing. On the other hand, the avoidance of problems can generate some pretty impressive creative ability, in the broadest sense of the word - not just artistic but any innovative, original or imaginative approach to the obstacles and challenges of life.” http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/glossary/glossary_bc.htm

Kite http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/aspectpatterns.html
“Whenever a person has a kite in his chart, he is considered to be more likely to be successful in his endeavours because the opposition will give him the push to go out and conquer the obstacles that are presented to him, and the sextiles will give him a little bit more harmony once he has achieved his goals.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kite_aspect http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/aspect-patterns2.html http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/glossary/glossary_k.htm

Saturn in 7th shows delays in relationships at least til first saturn return 27-30ish, then it's also apex for common T Square. Sun square saturn shows a lack of rapport with father. Saturn square neptune can sometimes lead to bit depressions..

Saturn conj Neptune http://astrologyforthesoul.com/billstreett/satnepgestalt.html http://astrology.astrozoom.com/index.php?title=NEPTUNE_CONJUNCTION_OR_PARALLEL_TO_SATURN

Saturn conj/square/opposite neptune can show a fear of the unknown..although these are generational planets, posited in bottom left quadrant makes them felt internally...It can also be linked to depression when triggered and/or having your childhood dreams crushed by father, males and/or authority figures.

Pisces Asc thread. http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40284
Pisces Asc (along with gemini) is probably one of the most difficult in childhood. With pisces they are sooo impressionable, easily manipulated and make lots of sacrifices trying to please family to much

Neptune conj MC can dissolve career/work aspirations.
planets conj MC http://rugdeeaustralia.tripod.com/id18.html http://www.skyviewzone.com/articles/asrticle3sc.htm

venus is domicile (at home in taurus)but opp Uranus, IS a divorce aspect..

Back to synastry bi wheel, got bit distracted here ....soz

Neptune square venus
"The square, quincunx, and opposition aspects of Venus and Neptune in synastry generally emphasize the vacillating and withdrawing theme of Venus-Neptune described above. Venus needs to be aware that if he or she falls in love with a romantic ideal instead of his or her real partner, Neptune will most likely retreat. Venus may go through periods of excessive trusting of the partner and swing to excessive fear that the partner cannot be trusted. The emotional rollercoaster can be unbearable if Venus rides on it for too long. Neptune must be extra careful not to promise more than he or she can deliver, in an attempt to make Venus feel better, remembering that "errors of omission" count as misleading. Neptune might have a hard time dealing with Venus directly, especially because it doesn't seem that Venus will listen to reason or even wants to see reality." http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/venus_neptune_aspects.html

I suspect the real problem is the many quincunxs between the two of you. the underlying not understanding facets of each others personality basically..

hope this helps?

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