posted February 15, 2012 05:39 AM            

The only thing that bothers me is his Swindle is conjunct my Sun... seems like a potential 'ouch!' But would that be overidden by the Venus/Pluto conjunction and the Sun/Moon trine?

I'm on the outside by the way. We've not met in person (on a dating site) but we spent hours on the phone and it felt like talking to someone I've known forever! I joked that he must have downloaded some kind of 'manual' to know just what to say to push the right buttons with me! Love the double Eros/Psyche thing too!!

Thanks in advance for any help

posted February 15, 2012 04:24 PM            

Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html
To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….

Please remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% as the max orb between planets is 3'. To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….

when you get this chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left of chart look for *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up 2pages –at a glance planet to planet. Scroll down to last page and *aspect grid*

problem is uploading to photobucket you have to change this from abode format into a picture. This is done by getting the relevant page/grid/bit in front of you,on screen then( if bit big press ctrl and - to reduce image). the press ‘prtsc sysrq’ - top row inbetween pause break and F12. This has copied to clipboard.

Paste into Paint or some other photo software. Crop the picture and save to hard drive, then upload to photobucket, select chart press IMG and past link into thread.... done

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posted February 15, 2012 05:00 PM            

also saturn square avenus http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/venus_saturn_aspects.html

IF this is within 3' orb

You could have the best synastry in the world, but unless you have good communications, are honest with each other about your needs, wishes and desires and 'both' of you want the same things...........then nothing will happen. It cannot make anyone change, or love you more. Some challenging squares, oppositions in synastry can be healthy, and may require one or both of you to grow in some way. Astrological natal charts cannot explain environmental factors, financial handicaps/ restraints and what position you hold in society, neither can it tell you if you are of ‘Royalty’ or beggar.

I am of the belief that people come in and out of our lives for a reason, either we have to teach them something or we have to learn something from them. There is Always an exchange, good or bad.

posted February 15, 2012 05:10 PM            

Anyway, here's the 40% orb chart and the aspect grid as you suggested. Thanks again for your help.

posted February 16, 2012 02:15 PM            

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Originally posted by seeker3030:
Any thoughts anyone?

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We must be in different time zones.I'm in UK, where are you?

Well done for posting the chart AND aspect grid, it makes things a lot easier.

So we see a clearer picture here with very few aspects. did you get a TOB for him?

the good easy aspects are sextiles 60' and trines 120' and the challenges are 90' squares, some conjunctions depending on whether the planet is malific or not.

So we see a lovely sun trine moon, BUT if it's HIS moon and we don't have a TOB we cannot take this as moon is THE most quickest moving planet.

So research the squares, mercury square saturn, venus square saturn. (this is not graet)
Moon square neptune.
Mercury, venus conj pluto,(intense power struggles)
venus conj neptune (possible deception)

posted February 16, 2012 02:27 PM            

Haven't managed to get a TOB for him just yet but should be tonight so will re-do chart once I have it and repost everything.

No it's his Sun trine my Moon so we can take that as correct and yes, not keen on the Venus/Neptune conjunction either... always worries me that it's all an illusion. I thought the Venus/Pluto conjunction was a positive however?? I realise it's got huge challenges attached re overcoming the obssession/control issues... the Pluto person is me by the way so perhaps it's up to me to watch this particularly?

I like the fact his Venus is close to my Sun - ok not close enough to be a conjunction if we're using 3 degree orb rule but close enough to feel the 'flavour' of it maybe. I love the Eros/Psyche conjunction though!!! Never had one before and between that and the Venus/Pluto it's feeling very fated and intense very quickly!

posted February 16, 2012 02:30 PM            

Venus square Saturn:
What does it mean to your relationship when your natal Venus is square your partner’s Saturn? You face something about your romantic relationship that restricts your time together. There’s something about your partner’s viewpoints regarding romantic love and family that you can’t quite bring yourself to trust. If your romantic partner’s Venus is square your Saturn, he/she may have problems with intimacy. Even if your partner is normally very generous, something is cautioning him/her to slow down and find out what it is he/she really needs.

posted February 17, 2012 12:47 PM            

His is 6 September 1968 and he doesn't know exact birth time unfortunately - just said he thought it was late that night, so not sure what to say about that? He was born in Saffron Walden UK

posted February 17, 2012 04:18 PM            

Seekerguy's Sun in Virgo and Seeker's Sun in Libra

Seeker loves company and can talk endlessly with friends, and loves to hear others' experiences and thoughts on any subject. Seeker is very accepting of different points of view and is disinclined to judge or even clearly evaluate what others say. Seekerguy, on the other hand, loves to analyse and criticize, and is intolerant of illogical or erroneous thinking. Seekerguy is more demanding of others and confronts others when necessary. Seeker finds these confrontations extremely uncomfortable and often embarrassing. Seekerguy is much more exacting and demanding in all areas of life. At worst, Seekerguy can view Seeker as wishy-washy, and Seeker can view Seekerguy as prim and intolerant, but hopefully your appreciation of each other is much better than this! At best, your different natures can complement each other without annoying each other

Seekerguy's Sun Trine Seeker's Moon

You have a strong affinity with one another, an instinctive rapport that enables you to know one another very well, almost from the start. A basic compatibility exists which helps you to overcome the stressful or problematic facts of your relationship. You have a natural sense of belonging with one another, and partnership of some kind is likely to develop and flourish

Composite Report for Seeker and Seekerguy

Sun 27 VI 55 1N22
Moon 15 AQ 23 15S47
Mercury 20 LI 12 8S53
Venus 0 SC 20 10S07
Mars 29 GE 6 13N30
Jupiter 24 SC 8 7S26
Saturn 29 TA 41 14N40
Uranus 10 LI 39 4S44
Neptune 29 SC 41 18S23
Pluto 28 VI 28 14N46
Node 21 AQ 40 10S50
Ascendant 27 GE 33 21N02
Midheaven 27 AQ 10 10S07

Sun in Virgo

As a couple your desire is to make the world a better place, and you begin by trying to be better people. Don't be too hard on yourselves. You are good at analyzing the relationship, but don't let this detract from your enjoyment of each other

Moon in Aquarius

You both need to contribute to this relationship on an equal basis. Emotions may arise in an erratic fashion, especially if there are restrictions placed on them. You need to feel free with one another. Real closeness may be hard won

Ascendant in Gemini

The two of you can't get enough experiences. The more stimulating your environment, the happier you are. You enjoy talking with others and people find you interesting and witty. People identify you best through your intellectual endeavors.

Sun Square Mars

The two of you get fired up when you are together, and inevitably there will be hostilities and disagreements if you do not direct all of this energy into a common goal. Physical activities, like sports or demanding physical work, are good outlets for you as a duo.

Intense rivalry and competition are ongoing issues between you, even if you are both fairly unaggressive, cooperative people. Angry confrontations over minor matters mask other, deeper concerns - such as who is dominant, and the need to feel important and powerful in the relationship. You over-use force and heroics when you are together. However, when you channel all of this energy into a good cause, you are a dynamic, energetic vital team.

Sun Trine Saturn

Longevity, stability, mutual conscientiousness and dedication are essential aspects of your relationship. The two of you can build something very solid together. A focus on the practical, on financial security, and on taking care of duties, obligations, and responsibilities permeates your bond with one another. You foster the conservative in one another, and develop a togetherness that is peaceful, steady, more inclined to contentment than to flamboyance or fireworks. The only pitfall in all of this is a tendency to fall into established patterns of being with one another which eventually become too predictable and too easy to take for granted. Nevertheless you are destined to have a long-lasting relationship.

Sun Sextile Neptune

Unselfishness, tolerance, and forgiveness flow readily between you, helping to ease and ameliorate any problems you face together. Your relationship has a strong idealistic and platonic quality. Even if you are involved sexually, the focus with the two of you is not primarily physical, but subtle, soulful, and spiritual in nature. You have high standards for your friendship and may expect yourselves or one another to be the Perfect Friend, all-giving and always impeccable in your dealings with each other. For the most part you both try to live up to these lofty images, and to not taint your relationship with selfish or mundane considerations.

The psychic tie is strong between you, too. You may experience an unusual ability to "read" one another, send messages to one another telepathically, and so on. Any interest you have in the metaphysical or imaginative arts will be highlighted, and become an important focus in your relationship.

Sun Conjunct Pluto

There is definitely an element of destiny or inevitability, something which cannot be resisted or avoided, in the two of you coming together. This relationship can take you further into your own depths than you've ever been before, and truly be life-changing for both of you. You have a profound and powerful influence upon one another for good or ill, and once joined, it will be extremely difficult to ever totally sever your connection. You really get inside each other. You may become one another's psychotherapist in a manner of speaking, because being together dredges up a lot of your hidden agendas or motives and you become aware of many more facets of yourselves than you were ever conscious of before.

Together, you can also be an incredibly potent force in other peoples' lives. Your charisma and influence as a couple far exceeds your individual powers. If the two of you are tempted to misuse this, you could be involved in manipulative games and power plays, Machiavellian exploits of all kinds. Using your powers creatively and positively, you could become healers or agents of transformation and renewal in the world.

Moon Sesquiquadrate Mars

Constant irritation, aggravation, defensiveness, and friction between you can make your relationship a war zone instead of an oasis of comfort and peace, especially if you live together. Your feuds are not likely to be of the quiet, underground variety, either - everybody nearby will see and hear all about it. At least you can't be accused of bottling up your feelings, and if you both are the type who enjoys stormy confrontations, you may be comfortable with the level of volatility in this relationship. However, your children or the people who live around you may not. Your effect as a couple can be very unsettling. Part of the purpose of your relationship appears to be to stir up unresolved controversies, rivalries, and competitive feelings from your pasts. Try not to blindly lash out or respond to each other based on these old feelings.

Moon Sesquiquadrate Pluto

posted February 17, 2012 04:36 PM            

Chapter 1
A Comparison of Temperaments and Life Styles
that Affect Your Ability to Harmonize with Each Other

Seekerguy's Sun in Virgo and Seeker's Sun in Libra

        Seeker loves company and can talk endlessly with friends, and loves to hear others' experiences and thoughts on any subject. Seeker is very accepting of different points of view and is disinclined to judge or even clearly evaluate what others say. Seekerguy, on the other hand, loves to analyze and criticize, and is intolerant of illogical or erroneous thinking. Seekerguy is more demanding of others and confronts others when necessary. Seeker finds these confrontations extremely uncomfortable and often embarrassing. Seekerguy is much more exacting and demanding in all areas of life. At worst, Seekerguy can view Seeker as wishy-washy, and Seeker can view Seekerguy as prim and intolerant, but hopefully your appreciation of each other is much better than this! At best, your different natures can complement each other without annoying each other.

Seekerguy's Moon in Pisces and Seeker's Moon in Capricorn

        Your temperaments, moods, and emotional responses are very different.

       Seekerguy is very, very sensitive and responds emotionally and sympathetically to people while Seeker is emotionally detached and often distant or inaccessible. Seekerguy tends to be a bleeding heart, while Seeker tends to be somewhat suspicious or hard toward people who are in unfortunate circumstances - Seeker doesn't want to get involved unless they are friends. Seeker also ignores or downplays emotions in general, and has a rather serious, sober, no-nonsense attitude towards life. Seekerguy is a bit of a dreamer or drifter and is far less practical, organized, efficient, and ambitious about material matters than Seeker is. Seekerguy may sometimes long for more empathy, affection, and softness from Seeker.

Chapter 2
Major Themes in the Relationship: What Brought You Together

Venus Mutually Aspects Neptune

        Your feelings for each other are so dreamy and idealized that it is doubtful that you have a very realistic view of each other. Enjoy the dreamy romance while it lasts but be ready also for times of disillusionment when the fog lifts and you see your partner in a clearer light.

Seekerguy's Mercury conjunct Seeker's Pluto       orb 2° 54'

        Your conversations tend to be probing and deep. You enjoy uncovering the underlying motivations and causes of a situation. Frequently what starts out as a light, friendly conversation ends up as an in-depth psychoanalysis of each other! Seeker may dominate your conversations and at times tries to force Seekerguy into agreeing or believing whatever Seeker wants!

Seekerguy's Venus conjunct Seeker's Pluto       orb 1° 5'

        Romantic and sexual attraction is very powerful, but is likely to have an intense, obsessive quality as well. Seekerguy, in particular, may feel that Seeker comes on too strong or is too insatiable and demanding. Jealousy, sexual manipulation, or unrestrained emotional fervor are strong potentials between the two of you. An almost fated, love-hate kind of relationship is very possible.

Seekerguy's Neptune conjunct Seeker's Venus       orb 0° 57'

        Your feelings for each other reach into levels of sensitivity and subtlety that is unusual for both of you. You become very dreamy around each other and if there is a romantic attraction between you, then you go through periods of dreamy romantic reverie together. You also evoke feelings of sympathy and compassion in each other, and you may inspire each other to write poetry or even evoke religious or spiritual feelings. You tend to let your feelings for each other cloud your perceptions and often you have an unrealistic view of each other. Your relationship exemplifies the old adage 'love is blind'.

Seekerguy's Sun trine Seeker's Moon       orb 2° 46'

        You have a strong affinity with one another, an instinctive rapport that enables you to know one another very well, almost from the start. A basic compatibility exists which helps you to overcome the stressful or problematic facts of your relationship. You have a natural sense of belonging with one another, and partnership of some kind is likely to develop and flourish.

Seekerguy's Mercury square Seeker's Saturn       orb 2° 51'

        Seeker is often critical and coldly analytical of Seekerguy's ideas, and Seekerguy is likely to feel belittled by Seeker. If both of you are able to offer criticisms and comments with a helpful, positive attitude, then this astrological influence need not be overwhelming, but the tendency to feel blocked and frustrated in your communications is very strong. You must make sincere efforts to listen receptively and sympathetically!

Seekerguy's Venus square Seeker's Saturn       orb 1° 2'

        This relationship may very well lead to marriage, but there are some major negative tendencies that you both need to try to avoid. The proclivity to marriage stems from the strong sense of commitment, reliability, trustworthiness, faithfulness, and stability that this relationship offers. You both feel that you can count on each other and dedicate your lives to each other. However, this stable, reliable relationship can easily become boring, unexciting, and downright cold over time. Seekerguy, in particular, is likely to feel stifled by the relationship. Seekerguy may feel neglected, unloved, and unappreciated. Your tastes and interests are often different and you sometimes simply don't connect with each other on an emotional level. To prevent this relationship from drying up, you both must maintain your involvement in activities that inspire and uplift you, and maintain your friendships, hobbies, and entertainment you love - even when your partner does not share your enthusiasm for these activities.

Seekerguy's Venus sextile Seeker's Neptune       orb 0° 20'

        You enjoy sharing music, art, or poetry with each other. Taking evening walks, listening to music together, and watching movies together are likely to be some of your favorite shared activities. You can tune into subtleties of feeling and aesthetics in a manner that inspires and uplifts each other. Romantic feelings are strong in this relationship.

Seekerguy's Jupiter trine Seeker's Moon       orb 1° 9'

        A pleasant, harmonious tone pervades your relationship. This quality is so natural to your association that it is easy to take it for granted. You feel very at home and comfortable with each other. You put each other in a good mood, and your domestic life tends to be very harmonious. You may bring out a lazy, indolent, self-satisfied side in one another.

END OF THE SHORT VERSION

The complete version includes:
Chapter 3
Other Themes in Your Relationship

posted February 20, 2012 09:37 AM            

nice free resource if you want to play around with it in future BUT there are such things as 'fair copyright' in pasting another's material, even off the internet...

lines, plus appropriate "marks" or quote box and source cited.
on astrologyweekly they allow 100words plus using quote box and/or "mars" and no more than 3 quotes per post... AND cite the source

just be careful is what I'm saying as it's not this site that's liable, but YOU 'the member' personally...and leaving yourself open to legal action

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Haven't managed to get a TOB for him just yet but should be tonight so will re-do chart once I have it and repost everything.

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What advice would you give about the Saturn sq Venus?

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The venus person usually ends up feeling unloved and uncherished, unless are lots of other really good intercharts aspects to offset this.

Hope all goes well and the way you want it to

EDIT: I've just been playing around with astrology3d.com website info for syn and the orbs are more than 40% so be careful as these will add aspects, which I would not expect to be there....plus this site doesn't delinate every aspect, just a few.
http://grupovenus.com/infoi.asp.
problem with this site is you only get ONE free report by email each week. (as far as I can see)

posted February 20, 2012 03:15 PM            

As for NOT YET being in a 'proper' relationship, I take the view that everyone is in some kind of relationship with each other, whether it be friends, acquaintances, lovers, parent/child etc etc, so to me it's all relevant and helpful This man and I appear to have a distinct and very real connection... whatever it does or doesn't lead to I'm glad I've encountered him. Thanks again for your help.

posted February 22, 2012 02:02 PM            

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Who says orbs have to be less than 40%? That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. And there is not sesquiadrate etc in synastry? Who said?? Who made you Pope of astrology? They're aspects aren't they? Plus, I have been using astrology3d for years and it has always been spot on, it's not a "new toy," but thanks for being your usual condescending self.

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I don't understand why you felt it as 'condescending' but truth is I've been teaching, studying and using astrology for a very very long time and the 'standard orbs'for synastry are VERY well known. But if all you can do is use inferior website like the one you posted, I doubt whether you will laern that much. Obviously, I'm sure you continue to do so, but you should be aware of forum rules here...

You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold harmless Linda-Goodman.com and their agents with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your messages.

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We at Linda-Goodman.com also reserve the right to reveal your identity (or whatever information we know about you) in the event of a complaint or legal action arising from any message posted by you.

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or at least use "marks" to properly show copyright material.

posted February 22, 2012 02:03 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Seeker, don't listen to that either about composites only counting when you're in an established relationship with someone. Lol. Dude, that is seriously absurd. Anyway. And of course you can do a free report on grupovenus every day as many times as you'd like.....

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the ONLY thing absurd is your ability to copy and paste copyrighted material.!!

this again shows you lack of knowlege about composites.

Have you tried a free composite chart with explanations being 'interactive'
Composite charts
If you go to www.astro.com click on free horoscopes, go to Interactive horoscopes, go down to Astroclick partner, that will bring up a composite chart and when you put the mouse over a planet will bring up a pop up box with the interpretation......

But you do need both times of birth to be accurate though.. enjoy.

Composites describe the relationship, not either one of you, but what you came together to learn or to do and how the 'pair of you' function when together....

you 'should' reduce the orbs ratio on astro.com down to 40% as max orb in synastry and comp is 3'. Also please add transits which is easily seen once you have the chart just above to right is option 'with transits'
http://books.google.com/books?id=dUulSwQoEC4C&pg=PR16&dq=robert+hand+composites&ei=r8HRSsXNEJvmygSIsP3eCQ#v=onepage&q=&f=false

The Book ---Planets in Composite: Analyzing Human Relationships By Robert Hand-- is greatly recommended

“The composite doesn't seem to describe what either person feels about the other. In this way it is very different from synastry, which describes the chemistry between two people in terms of how they affect each other. The composite chart is like a child, a third entity which carries the genetic imprints of both parents but combines these imprints in an entirely new way and exists independently of either of them” http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_composit_e.htm

“Composites have their own laws and energies, and these have nothing to do with whether we are "well matched" with someone. A composite in itself will not tell us about compatibility. That is what synastry is for. The composite won't reveal whether the relationship is "good" or "bad" in terms of the chemistry between two people. The composite says to us, "If you choose to enter this relationship, here is its meaning and pattern of destiny” http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_composit_e.htm
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/composite.html http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/composite.html

“For example, the composite Ascendant can indicate the circumstances surrounding the first meeting or the beginning of the relationship. It can also point to how a couple initiates things together (such as projects). Similarly, the end of a relationship can be depicted by the composite twelfth house. Once a relationship kicks in (moves beyond the initial stages), the composite Sun becomes more apparent. If a commitment to each other happens, the seventh and eighth houses come more clearly into focus. As such, the conditions surrounding the planets and houses in the composite chart can show us different stages of development of the relationship over time.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/compositechart.html
click on link to read full article
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/composite.html http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/composite.html

“Composite charts that has ascendant and midheaven agree in element will most closely describe the type of the relationship your partnership has formed. For instance a relationship that has Taurus on the Ascendant and Capricorn on the Midheaven will closely describe a “traditional” relationship. Those charts that do not agree will keep the element of the ascendant as the primary relationship style while incorporating the element of the Midheaven into the relationship. An analysis of the individual’s chart against the composite chart will show how his or her chart meshes with the composite chart and the style of the relationship” http://starrynightastrology.com/2009/08/02/relationship-astrology-making-love-last-part-1-your-relationship-style/

posted February 22, 2012 02:37 PM            

In my work I like to keep it fairly simple looking at only the strongest of the aspects. These include the conjunction, sextile, square, trine and opposition. When two planets are in conjunction, they are "within orb" or about 5 or 6 degrees of being in the same degree of the same sign http://astrology-numerology.com/synastry2.html

6. I do not use a strict orb allowance in synastry, although I would say that I tend to favor approximately 5-6 degrees for major aspects--perhaps a little more for conjunctions involving the Sun and Moon. http://cafeastrology.com/askannie.html

Dr.Farr.

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As in other areas of astrology, so too re to synastry, I follow an approach different than most: in synastry I look only at the aspectarian for my indications, and I use only about a 3-4 degree orb (and only conjunctions and the Ptolemaic aspects PLUS the semi-sextile)
I look only at the following matches:
-Sun to Sun: shows the relationship of the egos and higher mind of the pair
-Moon to Moon: shows the relationship of moods and emotionality of the pair
-Mercury to Mercury: shows the quality of communications for the pair
-Venus to Venus: shows love, sympathy and empathy of the pair
-Mars to Mars: shows the relationship of Will, and also drive and sexual relationship, of the pair
-Jupiter to Jupiter: shows the relationship of spirituality involving the pair
-Saturn to Saturn: shows the degree of committment, patience, staying power for the pair http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43472

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hopes this helps

posted February 26, 2012 09:30 AM            

Sun trine moon - excellent
Jupiter trine moon
venus quincunx saturn. I have this one natally, and it can suggest that men don't always understand what brings you pleasure
mars sextile moon
mars quincunx mercury
jupiter trine venus - excellent
saturn trine moon
neptune sextile mercury
neptune sextile venus
Node opp sun
node square chiron
vertex square moon
juno square jupiter

more challenging ones
venus conj neptune may feel very soul mate, spiritual on one hand, but also rose tinted glasses and deception on the other
saturn square mercury
saturn square venus
neptune square moon
pluto conj mercury
pluto conj venus

like in natal chart a mixture of good and challenging aspects can be healthy. What I look for first is Saturn and Node contacts and this suggests a karmic link and saturn tends to bind for good OR bad.