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butterflyxoxxo
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posted February 15, 2012 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflyxoxxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would really appreciate a chart reading. I have read numerous articles about the different aspects but would find a more personal reading helpful.

I spent 120$$$ on a reading a few months back and was a little disappointed. There was a lot of talk about solar arcs and past lives which left me a bit confused. She said with Leo (sun) in 8th house I was previously in a position where I had a public role but ultimately lost popularity. She also said that I would find myself attracted to warm (Leo) and generous (Jupiter) personalities in this life. She said the eight house was a better indicator of romantic partnerships than seventh.

I was left with a few questions that maybe you guys could weigh on. What confuses me is what does having Saturn, Uranus and Neptune all in the first mean? Also, what does the overall placement of planets mean? Anything would be helpful. And yes I do unfortunately have Chiron in 7 house of partnerships (and I feel it)


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SaggiMC
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posted February 16, 2012 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
first I need to ask you how sure you are of your TOB??

Do you strongly identify with Saggi rising? have you read Cappi? http://www.cafeastrology.com/zodiaccapricorn.html

Neptune in first is apex for YOD configuration

Yods and quincunx thread in basic astrology forum http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000664.html
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Basic astrology forum discussing Saturn in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000660.html
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Basic astrology forum discussing Neptune in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000661.html

Basic astrology forum discussing Uranus in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000662.html

Basic astrology forum discussing Pluto in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000663.html
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You can get an immediate chart interpretation from astro.com. From ‘free horoscopes tab look for free 'personal portrait' or ‘astroclick portrait’ interpretation of a natal chart in the free horoscope section, you simply put the cursor on a planet and it brings a pop up box to explain what it means to have a planet in that house and any other aspects it has to natal planets. plus a six month free transit report in 'short report' Robert Hand gives a valuable in depth explanation of transits here – only slight objection I have with astro, is they use orbs of upto maybe 10' approaching, exact and departing. So most transits seem very long in effect. I use more realistic orbs of 1' approaching, 1' exact and 1' departing. http://www.khaldea.com/ephemcenter.shtml

If you want to learn how to use an ephemeris try here.. http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42496

here is my favourite online ephemeris which plots where the planets are for hundreds of years...

Your mars is retrograde (going backwards) AND a singleton.

Basic astrology forum, retrogrades,Unaspected & Singletons http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Basic+Astrology&number=12&DaysPrune=
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I use Equal house system instead of the default on astro.com and venus would be conj 12th house cusp and therefore interpreted as if in 12th....

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I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”

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SaggiMC
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posted February 16, 2012 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mars quincunx Neptune
This suggests to me you are drawn to 'questionable relationships' with a tendency to dismiss or overlook pertinent factors as insignificant until you realise it's too late and perhaps you should have paid more attention.

"Your idealism and inflated expectations of others and life can lead you into very frustrating circumstances where you feel emotionally and physically drained. Your energy and emotions strengthen as you learn how and where to be involved in other people's projects. You have difficulty learning realistic boundaries with others and realistic limits as to what you can expect from yourself. Artistic expression can help give form to your humanitarian temperament." http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

Jupiter quincunx Neptune
Reality v fantasy. Could do well in fields of music, young children or spiritual things. Expansive enthusiasm (Jupiter) is clouded, confused and disillusioned, a nagging feeling of falsely evaluating things…..

Jupiter Quincunx Neptune
“The imaginative and humanitarian side of your nature needs lots of exercise in a "trial and error" manner before you are able to get your best skills to emerge in a way that is non-intrusive and can elicit the best qualities in others. The artistic side of your nature may seek a manner of expression that allows you to stay behind the scenes so you do not have to climb the learning curve required to interface directly with the public”. http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html


Sometimes these quincunxs are obvious and recognised in personality, other times it can take a lot of self examination to identify with the planets energies and of course they (like all aspects) don't operate 100% of the time, they are simply a facet of your personality. Some say they cause health issues that are unresolved, underlying, dormant waiting to be triggered.... some say you stay at one end, to the detriment of the other, OR end up see-sawing between the two until you learn balance, integration of two unlikely pairings. Next look at the signs, then houses and then aspects. Now the *others aspects* from these Yods are act like escape routes, that can help or hinder the expressions

Mars quincunx Uranus, may suffer from sudden and intermittent painful things.
“you function with great drive (mars) and originality (uranus), but you always seem to be under some pressure. Perhaps you are trying to prove something to yourself and others.. Learn to distinguish responsibility from abuse. It may be that your deep concern for your future drives you to do everything immediately. There is more time than you know, so first establish your priorities, and then you CAN accomplish all you want. Make sure that others do not make demands of you that are physically impossible or perhaps unnecessary. Do not be a patsy for other people's incompetence”
From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag

Mars Quincunx Uranus
You want something different than the rest of society and this in itself is neutral. Your frustrations can arise because your manner of expression of your unique desires cuts against the grain of what other people expect from you and your methods don't achieve your goals. Slow down - your intensity and drive can leave you drained without getting you closer to your goals. Only when you are able to hold to a course of action for a long time are you able to get results. Your attempt at "quick wins" always requires you to start over. http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/q...retations.html

Jupiter quincunx Neptune
Reality v fantasy. Could do well in fields of music, young children or spiritual things. Expansive enthusiasm (Jupiter) is clouded, confused and disillusioned, a nagging feeling of falsely evaluating things…..

Jupiter Quincunx Neptune
“The imaginative and humanitarian side of your nature needs lots of exercise in a "trial and error" manner before you are able to get your best skills to emerge in a way that is non-intrusive and can elicit the best qualities in others. The artistic side of your nature may seek a manner of expression that allows you to stay behind the scenes so you do not have to climb the learning curve required to interface directly with the public”. http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

Info on Yod’s http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TheYod15.5.htm http://asphodelea.com/yods.html http://www.drstandley.com/astrologycharts_yod.shtml http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yod_(astrology) http://realastrologers.com/?p=331 http://medicalastrologybyeileennauma...t-and-yod.html http://thezodiac.com/yod.htm http://medicalastrologybyeileennauman.blogspot.com/2009/03/inconjunct-aspect-and-yod.html http://aliceportman.com/?p=452

Sometimes these quincunxs (aka Inconjuncts 150’) are obvious and recognised in personality, other times it can take a lot of self examination to identify with the planets energies and of course they (like all aspects) don't operate 100% of the time, they are simply a facet of your personality. Some say they cause health issues that are unresolved, underlying, dormant waiting to be triggered.... some say you stay at one end, to the detriment of the other, OR end up see-sawing between the two until you learn balance, integration of two unlikely pairings.

Next look at the signs, then houses and then aspects. Now the *others aspects* from these quincunxs/Yods as they can act like escape routes, that can help or hinder the expressions. A chart with lots of Yods (Finger of God) will always be *searching* for the divine answers to the meaning of life, to find synthesis
What tends to happen with quincunxs is that with progessions and transits will create temporary Yods aka 'Finger of god' configurations. Like with common TSquares, they create a temp Grand Square...

If someone has the ‘generational Pluto sextile neptune’ (born after 1940) then there is always a possibility of creating a temporary Yod with quicker moving planets, progressions, solar arcs even and difficult situations where you could be forced into making decisions and worrying that you have made the wrong one. Saturn, Uranus are generational to and unless these two fall in first quadrant (the most personal) the may not even be felt if they create a temporary Yod…this could be *transformation through suffering* type aspect

Thread by R4ven on Astrologyweekly.com on Yods

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Some of what you may feel/experience are:
• things which happen out of the blue, and these things affect us, but are not created by us.
• being faced with impossible choices, but where we are forced into choose something
• a feeling of having been wronged in some way, and that we `don't deserve this' to be happening to us.
• feeling like we're on a continual search for something in our lives, although we don't know what this `something' is.
• well-made plans being interrupted, or even hijacked totally
• difficulty in coping within formal education systems - eg. as in being given limited time frames in which to complete tasks (this can create high stress levels in anyone with a yod)
• the yod itself does not provide any clear direction in life.
• those with unaspected planets will have difficulty in using it effectively when put under pressure.
• walking a different path, feeling `different' from others can lead to deep feelings of insecurity, and perhaps even believing themselves to have been `born into the wrong family'. (This one freaked me out a bit, since I spent much of my childhood believing this...)
• with an unaspected planet, in childhood the over-developed effects of the planet may be suppressed in some way by parents. (eg. my brother has an unaspected `duet' between Mars and Jupiter. As a child he `bounced off the walls' and was a real handful. My mother took him to the Dr and he was put on some kind of sedative to calm him down. Eventually he became a successful athlete, and so this became a channel for his excessive energy.)
• unconsciously developing towards future activities - perhaps over a period of years - without being aware of this.
• a sense that one is a Spiritual Warrior, as you find that what seems to satisfy others in life in no way is satisfactory for you - that you are searching for `something more'.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15271&highlight=yods

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I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”

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butterflyxoxxo
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posted February 16, 2012 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflyxoxxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I am sure of my birth time. Thank you, I will follow the links for any new information

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SaggiMC
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posted February 20, 2012 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by butterflyxoxxo:
Yes I am sure of my birth time. Thank you, I will follow the links for any new information

If you want to ask a specific question, I will do my best to answer it

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I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”

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