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Cella
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posted February 18, 2012 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The time of birth is aproximate for both not exact.

here's the chart

the composite


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posted February 18, 2012 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html
To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….

Please remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% (ONLY for syn bi wheel) as the max orb between planets is 3'. To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….Composite should be 85% orbs

when you get this chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left of chart look for *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up 2pages. Scroll down to last page for the *aspect grid* (ONLY for syn bi wheel) THIS is very important as it seems to show more aspects than is visible on the bi wheel…

problem is uploading to photobucket you have to change this from abode format into a picture. This is done by getting the relevant page/grid/bit in front of you,on screen then( if bit big press ctrl and - to reduce image). the press ‘prtsc sysrq’ - top row inbetween pause break and F12. This has copied to clipboard.

Paste into Paint or some other photo software. Crop the picture and save to hard drive, then upload to photobucket, select chart press IMG and past link into thread.... done

What Astrology Can and Can Not Do http://www.ofspirit.com/susanmiller1.htm http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/whatastrologycandoforyou.html http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_kdvalue_e.htm

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Cella
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posted February 19, 2012 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does that mean that there is nothing called a bad composite chart???

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html
To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….

Please remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% (ONLY for syn bi wheel) as the max orb between planets is 3'. To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….Composite should be 85% orbs

when you get this chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left of chart look for *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up 2pages. Scroll down to last page for the *aspect grid* (ONLY for syn bi wheel) THIS is very important as it seems to show more aspects than is visible on the bi wheel…

problem is uploading to photobucket you have to change this from abode format into a picture. This is done by getting the relevant page/grid/bit in front of you,on screen then( if bit big press ctrl and - to reduce image). the press ‘prtsc sysrq’ - top row inbetween pause break and F12. This has copied to clipboard.

Paste into Paint or some other photo software. Crop the picture and save to hard drive, then upload to photobucket, select chart press IMG and past link into thread.... done

What Astrology Can and Can Not Do http://www.ofspirit.com/susanmiller1.htm http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/whatastrologycandoforyou.html http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_kdvalue_e.htm


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Cella
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posted February 19, 2012 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope I have done it right now following ur instructions. Please have a look

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html
To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….

Please remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% (ONLY for syn bi wheel) as the max orb between planets is 3'. To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….Composite should be 85% orbs

when you get this chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left of chart look for *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up 2pages. Scroll down to last page for the *aspect grid* (ONLY for syn bi wheel) THIS is very important as it seems to show more aspects than is visible on the bi wheel…

problem is uploading to photobucket you have to change this from abode format into a picture. This is done by getting the relevant page/grid/bit in front of you,on screen then( if bit big press ctrl and - to reduce image). the press ‘prtsc sysrq’ - top row inbetween pause break and F12. This has copied to clipboard.

Paste into Paint or some other photo software. Crop the picture and save to hard drive, then upload to photobucket, select chart press IMG and past link into thread.... done

What Astrology Can and Can Not Do http://www.ofspirit.com/susanmiller1.htm http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/whatastrologycandoforyou.html http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_kdvalue_e.htm



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posted February 20, 2012 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cella, well done for posting the aspect grid. If you look at the grid and then the chart, it may well show more aspects....
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Does that mean that there is nothing called a bad composite chart???

not sure where this has come from. Natal charts are as unique as your fingerprint, so there is no 'bad natal chart'

The 'remit' for this reading is, "Will they get married"? who knows everyone has free will, there is nothing in your future written in stone or concrete, it's fluid dependng on your choices....

So, if we start at the beginning, with the assumption that both TOB are correct.
Asc in Gemini and Scorpio. these are what's called quincunx signs 150' away from each other. this shows outward expressions have very little in common. Scorpio will always want deep and meaningful and gemini hates having to do this, plus gemini has a hard job making decisions and sticking with them.

I can't tell just by looking visually if the outer chart is Saggi or not, anyway if both are saggi their core beliefs and values will be similar. But the outer chart has saturn conj sun. This will seriously modify the sun's expressions to be more like a cappi/saturn flavour...

venus/pluto, mars/pluto are very intense interactions

females North Node in taurus in 6th makes 3x aspects with the males chart. This suggests a karmic link and Learning lesson for her... as it her Node

His saturn (another karmic indicator) makes 3x aspects to her chart. Any saturn contacts acts as cement for good OR bad.

outer chart female, venus in scorpio in 12th house natally shows she's very private and secretative, probably felt she didn't receive enough affection in childhood (depending on natal aspects) Now here venus is conj his Uranus, which can be a divorce aspect. It may well have started with lots of excitement and affection, but as venus in scorpio can be stubborn, jealous and possesive, she must guard against this and allow a fair amount of freedom and independence within this relationship..

I'm not going to delinate ALL the aspects, just perhaps the most challenging. The softer ones you can research, using the links i have given previously

This type of question is best asked using horary chart, BUT I haven't seen many horarist astrologers around here. It's a specialised field and they tend to be Traditional astrologers, whereas I'm a modern astrologer plus they use different ways of interpreting and don't use or go past Saturn. so Uranus neptune and plut for them, don't exist. I think skyscript forum is for Trads and astrologyweekly have horary forums....

you both have mercury retrogrades (going backwards) which may help mitigate the challenges presented with mercury conj uranus

"The conjunction of Mercury and Uranus between charts can possess shades of both the challenging and flowing aspects mentioned above. From our Romantic Compatibility report: You inspire each other to develop original, creative ideas. Uranus awakens, enlivens, and sometimes radically changes Mercury's ideas and perspective. There is a strong impulsive quality too, and together you tend to make decisions quickly and on impulse! This is fun and exciting when the decisions are relatively harmless (for example, suddenly deciding to go to the beach), but care, of course, is needed before making more important decisions. Mercury has an uncanny understanding of Uranus's originality and unique qualities, and there are times when the two of you feel like true peers. The two of you grow intellectually when you are together, and there is a true feeling of learning and going somewhere in the relationship. When the two of you brainstorm, you come up with truly unique and inventive ideas." http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/mercury_uranus_aspects.html

hope this helps?

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posted February 20, 2012 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dup pls delete. why does it post twice?

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posted February 20, 2012 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
3x post, this is NOT ME....

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posted February 20, 2012 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
blimey 4x posts. sometimes it gets stuck when submitting and you never quite know if it's posted or not...

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posted February 20, 2012 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SaggiMC:
[B]cella, well done for posting the aspect grid.
Thank you, I just followed the link and info you provided.

If you look at the grid and then the chart, it may well show more aspects....
not sure where this has come from. Natal charts are as unique as your fingerprint, so there is no 'bad natal chart'

I was told once that my composite chart with a guy wasn't good and synastry is okayish not that amazing. Hence the statement and there would be men with whom I might have better aspects. Keeping that in mind I asked a question for my bro.

The 'remit' for this reading is, "Will they get married"? who knows everyone has free will, there is nothing in your future written in stone or concrete, it's fluid dependng on your choices....

Thank you! I know now that syn or composite doesn't show that.

My bro and this girl are going to be in a marriage alliance.

Thank you so much for delineating the charts for me...I am a lil worried for them though. Hope they will have wisdom and will to overcome any challenges.

Thanks again!

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posted February 22, 2012 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
when I re read this thread, I see you said the TOB were estimated, therefore the ASc aspects should be discounted because with a correct birth time they are invalid..

there are few 'soft aspects' which I hope you will research yourself, from the links I posted earlier.

In particular, mercury sextile mars
sun sextile jupiter - nice one.
Saturn sextile venus
mercury conj neptune bit challenging suggesting mis communications
mars sextile neptune

the sextile looks like a little star, the triangle is a trine 120' and shaped like a triange.

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posted February 22, 2012 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Sag

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posted February 22, 2012 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I am not asking for a lot, can I have your email ID where I can send one more chart. I totally understand if you don't want that.

Thanks again!

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
when I re read this thread, I see you said the TOB were estimated, therefore the ASc aspects should be discounted because with a correct birth time they are invalid..

there are few 'soft aspects' which I hope you will research yourself, from the links I posted earlier.

In particular, mercury sextile mars
sun sextile jupiter - nice one.
Saturn sextile venus
mercury conj neptune bit challenging suggesting mis communications
mars sextile neptune

the sextile looks like a little star, the triangle is a trine 120' and shaped like a triange.


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posted February 23, 2012 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's ur take on Composite Moon Opposition Uranus?

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posted February 23, 2012 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cella:
What's ur take on Composite Moon Opposition Uranus?

why not post the composite here?

Have you tried a free composite chart with explanations being 'interactive'
Composite charts
If you go to www.astro.com click on free horoscopes, go to Interactive horoscopes, go down to Astroclick partner, that will bring up a composite chart and when you put the mouse over a planet will bring up a pop up box with the interpretation......

But you do need both times of birth to be accurate though.. enjoy.

Composites describe the relationship, not either one of you, but what you came together to learn or to do and how the 'pair of you' function when together....

you 'should' reduce the orbs ratio on astro.com down to 40% as max orb in synastry and comp is 3'. Also please add transits which is easily seen once you have the chart just above to right is option 'with transits'
http://books.google.com/books?id=dUulSwQoEC4C&pg=PR16&dq=robert+hand+composites&ei=r8HRSsXNEJvmygSIsP3eCQ#v=onepage&q=&f=false

The Book ---Planets in Composite: Analyzing Human Relationships By Robert Hand-- is greatly recommended

“The composite doesn't seem to describe what either person feels about the other. In this way it is very different from synastry, which describes the chemistry between two people in terms of how they affect each other. The composite chart is like a child, a third entity which carries the genetic imprints of both parents but combines these imprints in an entirely new way and exists independently of either of them” http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_composit_e.htm

“Composites have their own laws and energies, and these have nothing to do with whether we are "well matched" with someone. A composite in itself will not tell us about compatibility. That is what synastry is for. The composite won't reveal whether the relationship is "good" or "bad" in terms of the chemistry between two people. The composite says to us, "If you choose to enter this relationship, here is its meaning and pattern of destiny” http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_composit_e.htm
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/composite.html http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/composite.html

“For example, the composite Ascendant can indicate the circumstances surrounding the first meeting or the beginning of the relationship. It can also point to how a couple initiates things together (such as projects). Similarly, the end of a relationship can be depicted by the composite twelfth house. Once a relationship kicks in (moves beyond the initial stages), the composite Sun becomes more apparent. If a commitment to each other happens, the seventh and eighth houses come more clearly into focus. As such, the conditions surrounding the planets and houses in the composite chart can show us different stages of development of the relationship over time.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/compositechart.html
click on link to read full article
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/composite.html http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/composite.html

“Composite charts that has ascendant and midheaven agree in element will most closely describe the type of the relationship your partnership has formed. For instance a relationship that has Taurus on the Ascendant and Capricorn on the Midheaven will closely describe a “traditional” relationship. Those charts that do not agree will keep the element of the ascendant as the primary relationship style while incorporating the element of the Midheaven into the relationship. An analysis of the individual’s chart against the composite chart will show how his or her chart meshes with the composite chart and the style of the relationship” http://starrynightastrology.com/2009/08/02/relationship-astrology-making-love-last-part-1-your-relationship-style/


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posted February 24, 2012 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh!I checked the interactive one at astro.com long before when you suggested someone else to do it in a post elsewhere.

Have read the cafeastrology too on synastry and composite, but really the interactive, cafeastrolgy and what one astrologer charted out for me were different.

I am no astrologer and that's why always confused with different readings and charts.

Thank you for your help

quote:
Originally posted by SaggiMC:
why not post the composite here?

Have you tried a free composite chart with explanations being 'interactive'
Composite charts
If you go to www.astro.com click on free horoscopes, go to Interactive horoscopes, go down to Astroclick partner, that will bring up a composite chart and when you put the mouse over a planet will bring up a pop up box with the interpretation......

But you do need both times of birth to be accurate though.. enjoy.

Composites describe the relationship, not either one of you, but what you came together to learn or to do and how the 'pair of you' function when together....

you 'should' reduce the orbs ratio on astro.com down to 40% as max orb in synastry and comp is 3'. Also please add transits which is easily seen once you have the chart just above to right is option 'with transits'
http://books.google.com/books?id=dUulSwQoEC4C&pg =PR16&dq=robert+hand+composites&ei=r8HRSsXNEJvmygSIsP3eCQ#v=onepage&q=&f=false

The Book ---Planets in Composite: Analyzing Human Relationships By Robert Hand-- is greatly recommended

“The composite doesn't seem to describe what either person feels about the other. In this way it is very different from synastry, which describes the chemistry between two people in terms of how they affect each other. The composite chart is like a child, a third entity which carries the genetic imprints of both parents but combines these imprints in an entirely new way and exists independently of either of them” http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_composit_e.htm

“Composites have their own laws and energies, and these have nothing to do with whether we are "well matched" with someone. A composite in itself will not tell us about compatibility. That is what synastry is for. The composite won't reveal whether the relationship is "good" or "bad" in terms of the chemistry between two people. The composite says to us, "If you choose to enter this relationship, here is its meaning and pattern of destiny” http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_composit_e.htm
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/composite.html http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/composite.html

“For example, the composite Ascendant can indicate the circumstances surrounding the first meeting or the beginning of the relationship. It can also point to how a couple initiates things together (such as projects). Similarly, the end of a relationship can be depicted by the composite twelfth house. Once a relationship kicks in (moves beyond the initial stages), the composite Sun becomes more apparent. If a commitment to each other happens, the seventh and eighth houses come more clearly into focus. As such, the conditions surrounding the planets and houses in the composite chart can show us different stages of development of the relationship over time.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/compositechart.html
click on link to read full article
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/composite.html http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/composite.html

“Composite charts that has ascendant and midheaven agree in element will most closely describe the type of the relationship your partnership has formed. For instance a relationship that has Taurus on the Ascendant and Capricorn on the Midheaven will closely describe a “traditional” relationship. Those charts that do not agree will keep the element of the ascendant as the primary relationship style while incorporating the element of the Midheaven into the relationship. An analysis of the individual’s chart against the composite chart will show how his or her chart meshes with the composite chart and the style of the relationship” http://starrynightastrology.com/2009/08/02/relationship-astr ology-making-love-last-part-1-your-relationship-style/



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posted February 24, 2012 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kanwalratan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
venus conj pluto --that is soul mate aspect

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posted February 24, 2012 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kanwalratan:
venus conj pluto --that is soul mate aspect

maybe but no necessarily in a good way

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Venus conjunct other person's Pluto

There is a strong pull between these two that can be fascinating, intensely attractive, and yet also disturbing at times. These two share a deep emotional tie. The Pluto person seems to have a window into the Venus person's soul at times, and can use this special connection for better or for worse. As the relationship progresses, the Pluto person may behave in a possessive manner towards the Venus person. This is one indication of a karmic tie. This pairing of planets is one of the stronger indications of intense sexual attraction. This is a passionate connection, but should be managed so that it doesn't turn into a love-hate union. Obsessive behavior is also a possibility. The Pluto person may demand more intimacy than the Venus person is willing or capable of giving. This relationship seems to change and evolve, and can be characterized by many dramas and emotional ups and downs. Times of frustration are followed by enlightenment and release, as the bond these two share is not a light or superficial one whatsoever.



http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/venus_pluto_aspects.html


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posted February 24, 2012 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah! I read that already on cafeastrology. Are the charts created on cafeastrology accurate? It was different from the one that an astrologer created for me.

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posted February 25, 2012 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cella:
Yeah! I read that already on cafeastrology. Are the charts created on cafeastrology accurate? It was different from the one that an astrologer created for me.

personally,I find them inferior on cafeastrology

thing with synasty is we can only go so far.
Is this an arranged marriage?

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posted February 25, 2012 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, love marriage.

quote:
Originally posted by SaggiMC:
personally,I find them inferior on cafeastrology

thing with synasty is we can only go so far.
Is this an arranged marriage?


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