posted February 21, 2012 03:47 PM            

Researching rulers of houses will help you understand more where I joining the dots so to speak http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html http://www.trans4mind.com/personal_development/astrology/LearningAstrology/housesDerived.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derivative_house http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm

also a good idea to post your chart, if you want people to comment on your placements

posted February 21, 2012 06:55 PM            

Derived houses, if you use the link I posted it what you can do say for *turning your chart* to see what kind of partner. so in your case your would say Taurus Asc traits, sun and venus in first house, Your MC in cancer would be thier IC with moon conj in 4th. Do you see how ths works?
http://www.trans4mind.com/personal_development/astrology/LearningAstrology/housesD erived.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derivative_house

From cafeastrology then on house rulerships

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Ruler of the 1st House in the Houses: Interpretations

The ruler of the first house is also referred to as the "chart ruler". Example: If Aries is on the first house, Mars is the first house ruler. If Mars is in the 7th house, then the ruler of the first house is in the 7th house. It can point to dominant interests or motivations, things that we pour a lot of energy into, as well as areas of life where we are motivated to take personal action. Sometimes we use the energies associated with the house to protect ourselves from the insecurities we may feel about being "out there" and exposed to the world. The condition of the first house shows how we handle beginnings, new situations, and being "looked at" or acknowledged. How we feel when we walk into a place we've never been before--whether the feeling is one of self-consciousness, boldness, reticence, eagerness, and so forth--comes under the rule of the first house. For example, if the ruler of the 1st house is in the 4th house, we may build a strong connection to family or build a home base to make us feel protected and safe. We may not be especially comfortable in new situations or situations that single us out.

Keep in mind the meaning of the first house when interpreting its ruler's position and aspects. The first house reveals our defense mechanisms and first reactions to new stimuli, how we instinctively react to a new situation, how we appear to others (the "first impression" we make on a personal level), our mannerisms and physical bearing, and our physical form.

Ruler of the 1st House in the Houses: Interpretations

The ruler of the first house is also referred to as the "chart ruler". Example: If Aries is on the first house, Mars is the first house ruler. If Mars is in the 7th house, then the ruler of the first house is in the 7th house. It can point to dominant interests or motivations, things that we pour a lot of energy into, as well as areas of life where we are motivated to take personal action. Sometimes we use the energies associated with the house to protect ourselves from the insecurities we may feel about being "out there" and exposed to the world. The condition of the first house shows how we handle beginnings, new situations, and being "looked at" or acknowledged. How we feel when we walk into a place we've never been before--whether the feeling is one of self-consciousness, boldness, reticence, eagerness, and so forth--comes under the rule of the first house. For example, if the ruler of the 1st house is in the 4th house, we may build a strong connection to family or build a home base to make us feel protected and safe. We may not be especially comfortable in new situations or situations that single us out.

Keep in mind the meaning of the first house when interpreting its ruler's position and aspects. The first house reveals our defense mechanisms and first reactions to new stimuli, how we instinctively react to a new situation, how we appear to others (the "first impression" we make on a personal level), our mannerisms and physical bearing, and our physical form.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 1st House

The manner in which you come across to others is very important to you. You are self-conscious and very body aware. Even if you don't have any planets in Aries, you have some distinct Aries traits--you are reactive, a leader, and sometimes impulsive. You are self-motivated and self-interested. You live life believing that your fate is in your own hands, and you are likely to be quite proactive.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 2nd House

You have a strong value system, and you value security and longevity more than most people. Some may call you stubborn and fixed, as you do have a way of establishing routines and getting set in your ways. You may be focused on establishing yourself materially, but this position can also suggest a strong desire to lay down roots. Comfort and security motivate much of what you do, and you value things that last. Even if you don't have planets in the sign of Taurus, you have some distinct Taurus traits.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 3rd House

Even if you don't have planets in Gemini, your chart ruler in the third house gives you some distinct Gemini traits, such as versatility, curiosity, and communication skills. You may be fidgety, somewhat restless, and most certainly curious about the world around you. You are likely to be quite active, moving about close to home. You adopt a lighthearted approach to life, may be a "jack of all trades", and are a "people watcher". You delight in putting two and two together, and feel a stronger need than most people to engage in idle chit-chat with friends.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 4th House

Some might call you a homebody. You are someone who is very motivated by a need for security and roots. You may "take after" a parent quite strongly--perhaps following in his or her footsteps or resembling this parent. Even if you don't have planets in Cancer, you display distinct traits of the sign. You may invest a lot of energy into building your "nest".

Ruler of the 1st House in the 5th House

Even if you don't have planets in Leo, you display distinct traits of the sign. You pour a lot of energy into hobbies, children, or creative endeavors. Having a good time is important to you! You need to express yourself creatively, thrive on attention, and you are likely very romantic and proud. There is some sort of eager excitement connected with being noticed and singled out. You enjoy attention and often look for it in order to feed your spirit.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 6th House

What you do as a vocation is more important to you than most. You may be a bit of a workaholic, as work occupies your thoughts. Others see you as a helpful and responsible person, and likely your reputation is well-deserved. You are very body-aware, and it is important that you have a healthy regimen of diet and/or physical activity. This builds your confidence. In many ways, you come across as unassuming and modest. You are always willing to offer helpful tips to others--and you have plenty of them!

Ruler of the 1st House in the 7th House

How you see yourself--and find yourself--is mirrored by a partner or close friend. You tend to define yourself in terms of how you relate with another person. Bouncing ideas off, or getting feedback from, another person feels almost like a necessity in order for you to take action or make decisions. Decisions are thus made indirectly, as a product of this feedback. You may find that you vacillate a lot as a result.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 8th House

You are a person who readily sees that there is more to any person or situation than meets the eye. You are somewhat reserved, not fond of "posing", and you have a distinct disdain for all that is superficial. You have a mysterious, private, or sensual aura around you. You are not one to show off, and you seem to be content to be left alone--at least that's what others seem to read. Psychology appeals to you, you are generally quite hard-working, and you may spend much of your time researching and "digging". Sometimes this indicates an inheritance that transforms the life, or handling other people's money.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 9th House

You are a generally outgoing person--an idealist and a dreamer. Usually ready for an adventure on the fly, you are a growth-oriented person and a born philosopher. Your opinions are strong, and you are generally ready and willing to let others know what you think! You may also be especially attracted to travel.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 10th House

You have a strong need for recognition that can be a driving force in your life. You are usually ready to take charge, and you are fond of structure. You readily take responsibility for yourself and for others. Some people with this position "hide" behind a position, such as a job, social standing, or reputation; or, they are especially fond of letting others know their position in life. Certainly, you come across as strong.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 11th House

You like to be on the same wavelength as others, and you tend to actively seek out similar, like-minded people to share times with. You are concerned about the welfare of others, and equality of people is an important concept in your life. People with this position are usually quite outgoing, sociable, and adventurous.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 12th House

While shy in youth, as you mature you tend to find ways of handling and masking your sensitivity. Your intuition is strong, and you naturally understand that there are hidden forces in life that influence the daily goings-on. You tend to always be seeking something higher--such as a greater meaning or understanding of life and your place or purpose in it. There is something mysterious and private to your aura. At times, you may feel a lot of anxiety. Although you are capable of being alone, sometimes loneliness consumes you and vague doubts and fears haunt you. You are a perceptive person, and managing your deep sensitivity is something that can be a lifelong task.

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posted February 21, 2012 06:57 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
oh sorry i guess my edits didn't show. i was asking about how they would overlap. from ami's articles.
http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/journal/the-23th-step-to-understanding-house-rulers/[/ URL]

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now all you need do is identify with what you have done. If you must compare with her ladyship.... do so just remain objective

basic astrology forum, parallels in declination [URL=http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000675.html]http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000675.html

posted February 21, 2012 09:52 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
h1 has mars rules h6 and saturn rules h3
h2 has uranus rules h4
h3 has neptune rules h5 and jupiter rules h2
h4 empty
h5 empty
h6 has mercury rules h8 and h11
h7 has sun rules h10
h8 empty
h9 empty
h10 moon rules h9
h11 empty
h12 empty

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Hi sand,

If you want to check ruler of house in house, you look at the cusp of the house to see which sign, then look for the ruler of that sign to see which house that ruler resides in. Eg, you have Scorpio Asc, so 1H is co-ruled by Mars and Pluto. Mars is in your 1H, so you look at 1H ruler in 1H. Pluto is in 12H but literally conjuncting 1H, so I would see it as 1H as well. You would probably have a very strong 1H ruler in 1H theme (esp they are your chart rulers as well).

posted February 23, 2012 09:42 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
hey yuting! how've ya been?

i see.. yes i guess i would. since i switched to equal the only other house i have in it's own house is the 7th.

in placidus my 10th is the cancer mc of course at 29 degrees so i have ruler of 10th (the moon) in 10th in that system.

are there any other themes you see? i see a lot of teaching being mentioned. i will reread them again when i have more time..

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Not bad. Took a long holiday late Jan. Back to the grind now.

I think another theme would be 7H as ruler of 7H in 7H and Sun there. 10H (another cardinal house)also has ruler in 7H. In addition you have a t-sq pluto/Asc-venus-MC/Moon also with 1H and 7H involved. Try to look into that t-sq energy. You might be juggling your public life with your partnership needs and self-expression and transformation

posted February 24, 2012 11:09 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
yesh i iz good student with jupter in h3 no? i know which ones are parralel but i haven't found interpretations for them save for the old astrodienst report which gets the declinations wrong..

yes i do get the derived houses a lil bit..

hmm.. an aries..

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I've never seen astro give interpretations of parallels, do you have a link pls?

chiron contra parallel venus, this acts like an opposition..
additionally, venus is contra parallel MC
venus/saturn contra parallel
saturn/vertex parallel, now this could delay poss partnerships

Jupiter/uranus/neptune/moon are all parallel this acts like a conj or stellium if you like. So if we build this with keywords.

Jupiter- expansion, travel, higher mind, philosophy
Uranus - excitement wants to do something unsual
Neptune - sacrifices, spiritual, illusions, confusions and delusions...
Wherever your Neptune is, "is where you carry your cross and where you will be called upon to make a sacrifice!" True sacrifices are never usually recognised, or else they could turn into martyrdom!
Moon is how and where we seek nurturance and give it out, perhaps where we feel restless and enjoy changes.

Sand, so since it's your chart perhaps you could build a sentence which is personal to you regarding this stellium??

Basic astrology forum, All About Moons http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000681.html

refering to your TSquare look for anything between 0' and 8' in Aquarius as this will turn your Tsquare into a GrandCross and these do cause untold problems, most internal

posted February 25, 2012 11:56 AM            

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Midheaven/Venus

According to Ebertin, the Midheaven/Venus aspect addresses the quality of individual love. According to esoteric astrology,Venus relates to concrete knowledge. The essence,it seems to me, of this combination is the profound awareness that all concrete knowledge is rooted in the love principle. Another expression of the Midheaven/Venus aspect is through artistic expression. The close connection between beauty and ego-consciousness allows expression to embody harmony and balance in concrete form. This can include plastic arts,writing,and any activity whose aim is to achieve a higher level of harmony in the physical world as well as well as in interpersonal and social relations.
When there is no Midheaven/Venus aspect,love is experienced indirectly or less consciously. It will have the force of archetypal drive for the individual and may never be clearly understood.

Square: Situations impel the individual into ego-consciousness through whatever feelings of love are engendered.

Opposition: Awareness of self comes through love of others, both given and received.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/010929.html

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I didn't say venus/MC was parallel I said it was CONTRA parallel which acts like an oppositin. so similar to conj IC suggesting you like a venusian hope, with nice things around you and poss enjoy entertaining at home. I call this one 'Bake a cake syndrome' as I have venus in 4th to

am bit confused about why you say this, when we are discussing parallels...

posted February 25, 2012 12:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Moonfish:
Wow sand so many retrogrades, how has that worked out?

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it's very common for the outers to be retrograde, it's the personal planets, in this instance, mars and jupiter.
I have jupiter retro and it can make you want to socialise less and more content internally.

mars retro however is more problematic, at it has problems gaining momentum in taking actions

sand, little off topic but on AW member R4ven who specialises in chiron would use and delinate chiron as apex for Yod..

posted February 25, 2012 12:12 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
any major significance that my juno and vertex trine?

iv never come across this juno article b4 tnx!

Juno in Gemini indicates the need to have verbal stimulation and exchange in the relationship. The acpacity to discuss day-to-day plans and having a variety of activities in which to participate together are essential ingredients. A lack of daily communication can lead to nervous tension, inner mental agitation of imagined dialogues, or continual verbal monologues. There can exist the desire for more than one mate and an ability to handle multiple relationships.

Juno in the eighth house may attract mates with resources. There are opportunities to regenerate through their legal mates. An inner confidence makes these natives feel it unnecessary to defend their positions to others. They are adamant about carrying out their own wishes or beliefs to the extent of defying authority.
http://astrotribe.tribe.net/thread/ca4a7493-dab1-4d06-98b0-7e94873d7a01

Juno in Gemini: Your soulmate or partner will like to talk and convince others of their point of view. The hands are always moving as the mouth does and the love to just jump in the car and go. Additionally sometimes your marriage partner could be deceitful.
http://www.terrynazon.com/Asteroids.html

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hey mine vertex is 8th trine sun and venus juno in 3rd. Very similara to yours?