posted February 27, 2012 03:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Wow, just saw this thread, doommlord, you are very good at this! I'm impressed.

I think it fits Ami to a T.

Ami, darling, what do you think about this?
I truly think your ASC is Libra with Neptune in the 1st. It would explain why you feel so confused about your actual chart, too.

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i must say i agree to his every word

as a proud owner of neptune in 1st (conjunct asc by 2 deg) i used to change my chart almost daily and eventually made around 6 different charts (each with different asc who i belived fitted me well) to which i felt good connection

it was the one i felt very drawn to was actually my REAL chart (with the EXACT birth time)

i learned that reading many possibilities and trying to pick one that suits you most is probably impossible for people with this placement so my advice is.....either rely on facts (they always work XD) or look to the place youre drawn to (i know you can be drawn everywhere with this but you might see a pattern eventually)

waiting to hear from you (on house rulers also )

posted February 27, 2012 04:05 PM            

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posted February 27, 2012 04:16 PM            

yet your work is just beginning.... since you have a new chart it must be explored and understood....

posted February 27, 2012 05:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thanks DL. DOux wrote such beautiful words to me. I feel I can let it go. I feel a million times lighter getting rid of that flippin Retro Saturn conj the ASC

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Aw thank you Ami!

I am so glad you are at peace now.
Hope it lasts

And DL, you're so sweet, offering help and all. Nice people on LL overall, feels good

posted February 27, 2012 06:13 PM            

- You have a very strong personality. Nothing much shakes you up or pulls you in any direction. You are very clear on what you want and you are very persistent in getting what you want (I associate this with Leo/Scorpio).

- You are very resilient. You have been through some seriously negative things and despite the emotional problems you have, overall you have pulled through better than most people would have - in the same situations imo
Th only sign I know who can do this is Leo.

- You can say NO. This is also a fixed sign thing. When you know what you personality want and do not want... you can tell someone else - sorry I do not want this - or - sorry I will not do this. No matter how much someone insists - if it is a NO with you.. then it remains a NO. You don't waver. And God only knows some people have insisted a *lot* lol (I have a good memory!)

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posted February 28, 2012 02:22 AM            

Scorpio risings come from a darker background. Their childhoods are much more painful, something very tragic usually tend to happen, usually a death. Will dig for as much info out of you but never revealing themselves.

The fact that you have even posted your natal chart, and are wanting so many people's opinions of the matter, points to the direction of Libra Rising.

posted February 28, 2012 04:10 AM            

I am fairly new to astrology, but i have done a lot of research on house systems because the discrepancy was bugging me. It seems to be the most accurate system for topical division for the people in my life that i personally know.

posted February 28, 2012 01:01 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Wow Thanks Fondue
Makes so much sense
I never had financial problems so I did not see how Saturn in the 2nd could be right. Can it really be self esteem?

My father is super passive. My mother wore the pants. It is funny cuz she could fix anything.
She could take apart a clothes dryer and put it back together. She would be in the cellar with all sorts of tools, doing things.

I, in rebellion, live in a pig sty

Neptune in the 1st--very hard to see who one really is.

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Saturn's sign indicates what you find uncomfortable and must learn to manage.
Where and how you feel a lack of confidence -- the house position of Saturn defines where
you need to establish your skills, an issue you worry about and wish you could depend on !

Lovely anecdote about Saturn from member mahaira on astrologyweekly.com,

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There's an interesting thing I read somewhere, which I would never take as a rule as it oversimplifies matters - we can guess where someone's Saturn is placed, broadly speaking, by asking him/her "What do you want (or did want) but don't have?"

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Takes 28 years to go around zodiac. Stays in each sign of approx 2.1/2 yrs
Keywords: Saturn = Structure, duty, limitation, restriction.

Neptune in lst House – angular house
Should try to avoid alcohol and drugs. Often have an air of mystery about you. Indicates a sensitive intuitive awareness of yourself and your environment. Highly impressionable. Certainly artistic and a great appreciation of music. Dreamy innocent look drift off when talking! Dissatisfied with appearance in some way ie; manner, looks. Sometime appear to live in world of own. Idealist. Physical appearance probably something you don't care for. People may often say to you look at me when I'm talking to you! Can daydream with eyes wide open. Neptunian illnesses movements affected will walk funny at least with one foot. (twine toed as small child or when first walking ) Mysterious allergies on skin or where obvious, and suddenly disappear.

Basic astrology forum, Which charts to use and when http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000682.html

Basic astrology forum, All About Moons http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000681.html

Basic astrology forum, House meanings http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000683.html

How to Rectify your TOB is none is avail using Solar Arcs http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000684.html

posted February 28, 2012 01:02 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes Fondue you are right about the unaspected Venus.I see it as a gift and a joy, now.

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just remember your venus is *greatly helped* by parallels (conj) jupiter

basic astrology forum, parallels in declination http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000675.html

posted February 28, 2012 01:07 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Do I have have a Grand trine but one with sextiles? Is there such a thing?

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nope, you have a minor grand trine called a talent triangle...

Talent triangle http://joycehopewell.blogspot.com/2006/07/belle-filles-recorder.html http://stellarclock.com/blog/2009/08/23/small-talent-triangle/ http://www.janeritson-astrologer.co.uk/Personalities_Charts_1.html

Pluto in 11th House - succeedent
Loner. Not lonely but aware you are alone. Very few intimate friends. Friends will bend your ear because they know you are good at keeping secrets. Lost friends through death
Won't ask favours from friends. Not powerfully placed here.Reformist tendencies expressed in friendships and groups or will attract powerful friends. Great leadership qualities

posted February 28, 2012 01:07 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What is AW? My mother says 1:30 but woman were drugged then with powerful drugs. My birth certificate says 1:30

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astrologyweekly.com forum

posted February 28, 2012 01:10 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
do you do your job from home?

do you feel that you can never do a job you dont feel happy doing?

are you successful in your job and did it have much to teach you?
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How did you get this DL? It is totally right! Did you get this from Moon conj the MC?

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Cancer MC, moon conj MC. have you had lots of changes in work/career?
did you move house just under age 3??
looking at solar arc moon conj MC..

How to Rectify your TOB is none is avail using Solar Arcs http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000684.html

Eternal student it down to a stellium inmn 9th house..

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Moon conjunct Midheaven

On some level, [even subconsciously] you are likely to crave some form of recognition for your achievements in the world. You are also likely to be very sensitive about your role in public, and may seek a sense of security from your chosen profession. This placement can suggest that you choose a profession in which you look after others, a caring role perhaps. Your mother may have had a strong influence on your life direction. Whatever profession you care to select, you may discover that catering to the needs of females, or promoting products and services more concerned with female interests would have a better chance of success than those more male oriented. There may also be a fair amount of fluctuations experienced in your work or your career. With the Moon as the most elevated planet in your chart you are endowed with an innate skill in terms of having the ability to appeal to the public, possessing the capacity to sway the minds of the public. Should you ever feel the desire to stand for the local community, local council, public speaking or politics, you might surprise yourself at just how effective your words can be on others. Knowing this might just tip the scales in overcoming any fearfulness encountered when asked to speak in front of an audience, bringing your hidden talents into focus and enabling you to maximise your hidden potential. http://rugdeeaustralia.tripod.com/id18.html

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posted February 28, 2012 01:47 PM              

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
Ami - My feeling was always that you have a Leo AC conjunct your Pluto (this could still give you some Scorpio traits). I find you very Leonine in many respects - looks wise and personality wise.

But I guess that would mean an error of over 2 hours in the TOB - so it seems impossible.

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solar arc MC conj Mars age 8, did you become assertive, sporty even around that age? did family relocate?

~Age 18 solar arc Asc conj Neptune, anyone die, disappear, any mysterious illnesses?

with Scorpio Asc Solar arc MC onto Pluto *something HAD to have happened* for this to be even possible. Anyone die, disappear?

You really MUST put in the work and effort to rectify YOUR chart....

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Originally posted by doommlord:
ami dont panic... but i think your chart may be wrong XD

i saw the timezone on your birthplace is -5
while astro.com call it -4

or maybe im mistaken but i had the same issue on astro.com (have +5 timezone but astro wrote +6)

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posted February 28, 2012 01:50 PM              

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Originally posted by birdy:
If your birth certification and mother say that specific time, I would guess thats the correct info. Even if it's wrong, it would only be wrong by a little. Plus has anyone mentioned progressed ASC? Maybe that's why you felt Scorpio rising was your ascendant. At one point your Libra ASC changed into Scorpio.

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I agree, it's bit ridiculous playing around with 2hours

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Originally posted by Lava Flower:
From your pictures, you LOOK like Scorpio ASC but obviously i do not personally know you

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posted February 28, 2012 01:55 PM              

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Originally posted by birdy:
It's my experience that Libra risings tend to have easier lives than some. I'm not saying they're isn't emotional upheavals(4th Capricorn) but they tend to have simplier settings, to say it so bluntly...money.
Not all of them but most of them. Depending of course on other aspects. The Libra risings I know play devil's advocates like nobody's business. They want to disagree just to disagree I think sometimes. They will avoid conflict even though their behavior warrants it. Libra risings tend to form stronger personalities once ASC progresses into Scorpio.

Scorpio risings come from a darker background. Their childhoods are much more painful, something very tragic usually tend to happen, usually a death. Will dig for as much info out of you but never revealing themselves.

The fact that you have even posted your natal chart, and are wanting so many people's opinions of the matter, points to the direction of Libra Rising.

I hope this helped somehow. Let me know if you want to know anything else.

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scorpio rising is a very very private sign and not THAT sociable either, whereas Libra is, gracious, charming, sociable and very indecisive. I have a saying for librans,"they used to be indecsive, now they can't make their minds up"
They can have an argumentative streak or just be diplomatic, depending on which way the wind is blowing

neptune trine sun and mercury would indicate psychic abilities...

posted February 28, 2012 02:07 PM            

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posted February 28, 2012 02:50 PM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
Astro is 'very accurate' and shows the local time as given by Ami

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trust me that im speaking from experience...

i made a few charts for myself over the internet with the same birth date/location/time and ALL of them OTHER then astro.com showed me the same chart

posted February 28, 2012 04:19 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thank you Dear Friends
Everyone who took the time to help me with this!
I think I am a Libra ASC.

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I've just been looking at your secondary progressions and your prog sun is now 22'46" just two years of conjunction with pluto....hmmm

prog sun and prog mars are exact/combust
4months ago prog moon changes signs from cancer into leo for next 2.5 years..

IF astro's computer is OUT I suggest you contact astro and explain the problem OR you findings in their forum