posted February 26, 2012 02:20 PM              

Pisces Asc thread. http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40284
Pisces Asc (along with gemini) is probably one of the most difficult in childhood. With pisces they are sooo impressionable, easily manipulated and make lots of sacrifices trying to please family to much

I use Equal House system (where each cusp is same as Ascendant) and am a modern astrologer. Lots of newcomers come into Astrology/forums and get a free chart from astro and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few others if you wish to experiment…..

Within the mainstream are placidus/equal houses (the default on astro is placidus) only difference being some planets may move from one house to another thereby altering it's interpretation and it's 'only' with research will you find which /planets 'fit you' in which houses. So my advice, do two charts, research any planets that move houses and see which you identity with - simple

Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAwGtMWl4z4

So you stellium would be interpreted as if in 9th within 30" of 9th house cusp

Sun conj mars conj pluto is modifying how your sun expresses itself, to be really a force not to be messed with. In fact mars/pluto really needs to be doing something physical with all the energy. The riskier the better, something like martial arts, mountian climbing bungjee jumping??
But you probably know this right??
http://www.celestialperspective.com/library/marspluto-aspectswhat-determines-theyre
mars/Pluto aspects by Donna Cunningham

"Mars conjunct Pluto
The conjunction of Mars and Pluto shows a very strong desire nature with the persistence and determination to get what you want. Your nature is to be more interested in the battle than in the fruits of the conquest. You handle extreme pressure very well, and in a crises situation you can be relied upon to manage affairs with skill and authority. In love, you are assertive and possessive. Physical needs and demands are notably strong. This is a highly emotional aspect. If not controlled, this aspect may cause you to be brutal or cruel." http://www.skyscript.co.uk/marsaspects.html#macpl

venus in libra domicile is afflicted by quincunx to moon in 12th
7Moon Quincunx Venus
“The frustration you experience in life often comes because you get what you ask for from other people (and life in general). Unfortunately, what you ask for isn't what you want. Partly, you are slowly learning better communication skills, and partly you are learning to understand your own deeper cravings as they are. You see the unacknowledged and undigested parts of your sensitivity and creativity present in others, but, these are really projections that you have to own within your self if you are to change for the better.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

“shows that you have a low opinion of your personal needs and give a greater priority to persons whom you feel obligated to. The only problem here is that this process goes on and on. Your reaction to people is unbalanced and illogical. If you can detach yourself from emotional considerations, you will be able to logically decide how far your obligations go and to what extent you should expect others to make concessions to you. You need to develop greater self respect in order to earn the respect of the people you deal with”
From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag

Sometimes these quincunxs (aka Inconjuncts 150’) are obvious and recognised in personality, other times it can take a lot of self examination to identify with the planets energies and of course they (like all aspects) don't operate 100% of the time, they are simply a facet of your personality. Some say they cause health issues that are unresolved, underlying, dormant waiting to be triggered.... some say you stay at one end, to the detriment of the other, OR end up see-sawing between the two until you learn balance, integration of two unlikely pairings.

Next look at the signs, then houses and then aspects. Now the *others aspects* from these quincunxs/Yods as they can act like escape routes, that can help or hinder the expressions. A chart with lots of Yods (Finger of God) will always be *searching* for the divine answers to the meaning of life, to find synthesis
What tends to happen with quincunxs is that with progessions and transits will create temporary Yods aka 'Finger of god' configurations. Like with common TSquares, they create a temp Grand Square...

I don't include chiron in aspect patterns and would not consider it to be valid Yod.

posted February 26, 2012 02:29 PM              

Now venus is afflicted by square to uranus (divorce aspect) and square to neptune (rose tinted glasses in romance and finances) Hopefully, venus trine saturn may help to keep you grounded but I wouldn't count on it...

So this may well affect your you spend your money (venus ruling 2nd) but also how if you do ever share a bank account, may also affect spending joint finance on venusian expensive things...

Now ruler of 7th virgo/mercury in 9th

Ruler of the Seventh House in the Ninth House

"Your spouse may be from a foreign country or he/she may simply come from a culture that is very different from your own background. You might prefer a living together arrangement with a partner rather than making a legal commitment. However, it may be that your attitude towards marriage was heavily influenced by your religious beliefs or your religious upbringing. Additionally, a partner or even very close friends might be able to influence your philosophical ideas about spiritual matters." http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr7

You could even meet a partner whilst on holiday or via higher education and Saggi MC make good teachers, always enjoy learning new things.

Now ruler of 7th in Saggi is in detriment and apex for commmon T Square. But as T Squares goes with benefic planets it's not the bad..

So, there doesn't seem just one simple straightforward answer and so there shouldn't be. We are all multifaceted human beings and a natal is simply our *potential*

It may be interesting to see your progressions and transits if you fancy posting.

posted February 26, 2012 02:31 PM              

The houses are like the backdrop of a stage, the setting if you like, the planets are like actors and the aspects are how the planets behave in that settings/stage....So remember you may find it harder to identify with planets and Saturn in this case in Cadent houses….

"Saturn’s" influence seems to be more obvious in the houses than in the signs can rule the life with an iron rod, although invisible, by undermining the sense of ¬self worth and making it difficult for the individual to permit any close emotional contacts.

Saturn's sign indicates what you find uncomfortable and must learn to manage.
Where and how you feel a lack of confidence -- the house position of Saturn defines where
you need to establish your skills, an issue you worry about and wish you could depend on !

Lovely anecdote about Saturn from member mahaira on astrologyweekly.com,

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There's an interesting thing I read somewhere, which I would never take as a rule as it oversimplifies matters - we can guess where someone's Saturn is placed, broadly speaking, by asking him/her "What do you want (or did want) but don't have?"

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Takes 28 years to go around zodiac. Stays in each sign of approx 2.1/2 yrs
Keywords: Saturn = Structure, duty, limitation, restriction.

Saturn in the 11th house
Hard to obtain goals and objectives but they can be attained if the person will be patient and willing to work. Have to earn everything with this position of Saturn. If it is done the rewards are great, and life gets better as it advances.Many acquaintances, but few intimates. An unrecognised fear of the demands made due to friendship. Attracted to older people. Saturn may delay but does not deny objectives.You will have a strong sense of responsibility towards friendships, groups and team work. You will seek to know important people in order to advance your status and self ¬confidence by taking notice of their wise advise. You will be cautious concerning your own principles. Social standing very important.
These people either keep themselves to themselves or overcome their shyness by joining societies in which social life is centred around a purpose, sometimes political. Friends are often older and more experienced.

Basic astrology forum discussing Neptune in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000661.html

Basic astrology forum discussing Uranus in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000662.html

Basic astrology forum discussing Pluto in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000663.html
To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….

posted February 27, 2012 03:23 PM              

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Edit: The Equal house systems doesn't change any of my planets except the sun, that would change to the 9H. I like both the placidus and equal systems.

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posted February 28, 2012 11:25 AM              

Planets conj House cusp
“Ascendant at 15’ Libra and Jupiter 13’ Libra. That would place Jupiter in the 12th house, right? But many thoughtful astrologers would read this as Jupiter being conjunction with Ascendant, and end up reading it as bringing its action to bear in the first house, rather than in the 12th.
This same idea would apply for each and every house cusp. If the planet is IN THE SAME SIGN as the sign on the next house cusp, and close enough to be CONJUNCT WITH that next house cusp, the action of the planet will be directed into oncoming house” http://www.astrology-numerology.com/inhouses.html http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14887 http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=125412&postcount=4
Ptolemy says the influence of the house begins to be felt 5° before the actual cusp. http://www.astrologycom.com/houses.html

“Astrologers have seen a body influencing the house it is about to enter, time and time again. All theorizing aside, the planet casting its shadow ahead works. I can speak from personal experience, as well as reading ancient texts. If you discover this as true, then the next question may be, "Just how close must a body be to a cusp before it begins to be felt in the neighboring house?"
I've seen some authors say 3 degrees. I've seen some that give 5 degrees. I have seen some that even give 8 degrees. And there may be other variations.” http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/90c9f417-5086-4ff0-b31f-c904fe99baca