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inthemisosoup
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posted March 13, 2012 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for inthemisosoup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi y'all. My family and I have been going through a very tough time the past two days. I was wondering if anyone would read mine & my sister's charts & transits. What we are going through is quite personal and I would prefer not to post about on a public forum. If you wouldn't mind doing e-mail or PM I would be eternally grateful.

*I will posts my charts but I was wondering what kind of asteroids I should include.

Here is my chart & transits:

My sister's chart & transits:

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posted March 14, 2012 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love&Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi!!! ((((inthemisosoup)))) I think someone would want to help but your charts are not showing dear.

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posted March 14, 2012 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for inthemisosoup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was gonna wait until someone told me what asteroids to include but I decided to upload them and then I can always edit later. Thanks

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posted March 14, 2012 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for inthemisosoup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anyone?

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posted March 14, 2012 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will look later Sweetie!

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posted March 14, 2012 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TR Moon conj N Pluto. TR Saturn conj NN
You are being forced to accept lessons on maturity, I would say.
Your Pluto--primal self is opening up to you.
Both of these may be super scary. What do you think?

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posted March 14, 2012 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for inthemisosoup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where is TR Saturn conjunct NN? Do you mean TR NN conjunct Saturn?

Sounds otherwise good to me. How do you see this ending up?

What do you see with my sister? She is very depressed lately, she's been acting crazy. I don't want to go into much detail. I can e-mail if you need details. She worries me. A lot.

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posted March 14, 2012 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry about the Saturn/NN
How could I tell about your sister Sweetie? Why don't you put her chart up with transits?

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posted March 14, 2012 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for inthemisosoup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did. Her's is below mine.

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posted March 14, 2012 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL I just saw it.I thought you just wanted me to make a prediction

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posted March 14, 2012 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For your sister, the transits don't look terrible. The hard things I see on a cursory look is Saturn in the 12th which is VERY hard and Chiron conj the Sun.

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posted March 14, 2012 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn in the 12th gives a great deal in insecurity as the 12th House is the hardest placement. Did she have a very painful relationship with her father too--Chiron conj the Sun.

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posted March 14, 2012 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for inthemisosoup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 14, 2012 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You need to look at the solar arcs.
She has a problem w.unrealistic expectations that drive her moods back and forth, so she needs to get a handle on that.

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posted March 14, 2012 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for inthemisosoup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Should I add progressions, too? Because tPluto is conjuncting my progressed Sun, Mercury, and Neptune. For my sister I am not sure.

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posted March 14, 2012 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Solar arc + progressed + natal.
Her problems should be seen with the solar arc.
It's an option in the pull down, it has all three of them. And then set the date for the 12th. That's for her.

For you, whatever date the problem was the strongest, or for today if it's still ongoing.

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posted March 14, 2012 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for inthemisosoup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Lonake! Where do you read her unrealistic expectations? I am trying to learn more.

Her chart + progressions + solar arc

Let's focus on her for now. She has asked me for help and my problems are more minor compared to her. And obviously her problems are mine, too.

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posted March 14, 2012 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure, she has a tight merc jup square, and you can see they rule her h1/h7 axis so this is a part of her basic way of relating to the world and also what she meets in relationships. Then jup is sq saturn for the see saw effect and merc opp saturn for what you and maybe others see as criticism.

The 1st thing that stands out in her natal is mars opp uranus. I'm gonna be honest it's an aspect of violence/sudden anger erupting. Mars has solar arc'd to conj her p.Moon exact on that day, but p.Moon stays in a degree for a period of days so keep that in mind. Natally the Moon is sq Venus for a basic tension in relationships for getting her needs met. You can see the Mars/Uranus interacting with the p.Moon a bit clearer now, what is happening inside at this time. So those 2 are major, that's 14 Cancer so keep that in mind. All I see transit wise that day is t.Pluto @ 9 Cap in opp. But remember the Mars/Uranus opp. So t.Pluto is conj sa.Uranus & also is close to her sa.Asc. Pluto on ASC demands transformation, so that is her ideal, she wanted to break through (Pluto/Uranus) the Moon/Venus problems, but you can see why she might try to do that in a rash (Mars/Uranus) manner. She needs to learn self control with that aspect.

She has her sa.Node coming up to conj n.Mars. Because of the opp to Uranus you, being the one into astro, you need to keep a watch on that. Node refers to fateful events, and I'm gonna copy & paste something that I wrote to another girl on here: "When I say fated, I mean potentially life changing, just to clarify; not that it's carved in stone, just that it relates significantly to your path in life. Fated times, to me, mean sensitive times when whatever decisions you make carry great ramifications. So it's important at those times to be hyper-aware of your actions/thoughts/surroundings, to be open to any symbols or signs that life is showing you, to trust your intuition, etc. Write back if this doesn't make sense to you, because it's important to understand this."
Sa.Nn is 13, n.Mars is 18, but the node is just going to inch closer as time goes by.
If node refers to life path, and Mars refers to tension/aggression/anger and then there's the opp to Uranus, you can see how that can add up. Like I said, self-control. Also to stay away from men with sudden anger problems, she may be drawn to exciting types, but with that config you can see how that would be bad for her as she's now at a sensitive time. She needs to not escalate any arguments that she gets into.
A sensitive time is now because t.Mars (that day it was 10 Virgo, so it turned her n.Mars/uranus opp into a tsquare (added tension from Mars is not good for her opp). Mars is Rx right now, and is fading out of orb of the opp, but will come back at that same degree, direct, on 5/19/12.
You can see t.Mars in mid Virgo is sq Mars/Uranus as well as the ASC/DSC axis so she's v.sensitive to it. Also when Mars goes to mid Sagittarius, mid of all the mutables will be a sensitive time for her as long as the sa.NN is near her n.Mars.

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ETA: Also watch for t.mars at mid of the cardinals because that is where her mars/uranus has solar arc'd.

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posted March 15, 2012 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I swear I responded to this thread, but maybe the forum is having glitches again on this mercury retrograde period.

there is nothing that really stands out in the transits for me just at moment. Can you hint at what has happened perhaps?

T Saturn is approaching pluto at 2' this isn't a great fun transits. http://www.astrology-x-files.com/transits/saturn-cj-pluto.html

mars opp uranus can have bad temper or quick to respond with actions..

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Mars opposition Uranus
The opposition between Mars and Uranus excites to competition and arouses others to challenge you. You're demanding and authoritative. You thrive on argument, even when you aren't serious about it. Because of these assertive leanings, you can make an excellent salesperson, but you may have some problems with human relations. You don't tolerate restrictions of your freedom and mobility, needing to be constantly on the move. You may be attracted to hazardous activities such as flying, racing, exploring, or mountain climbing. Because you are accident prone, these and other similar pastimes are not recommended. You must be careful and take safety precautions. Avoid desires to throw caution to the winds, because you need not prove yourself in these ways. You may not be an easy person to live with because of periodic outbursts of temper and sometimes cantankerous attitude. A revolutionary, you are likely to oppose tradition with its limits on individuality. You want your way, and can be critical of any authority http://www.skyscript.co.uk/marsaspects.html#maour

now the good aspects from these two planets actually create a Cradel configuration, for which I have this one....

Cradle configuration
two x talent triangles or minor grand trines, the outer two linked by an opposition. It seems to be a mixed blessing, with potential but to due them being easy aspects can lack the follow through to achieve. In male chats can lean towards extrovert, and in female charts passive, introvert qualities there is a need to be careful not to scatter energies without achieving much.

“The Cradle configuration has two Wedge figures in it, providing two different ways to potentially escape from the stress - or transform it into creativity”. http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/cradle_configuration.html
http://www.astrotheme.com/files/figu...ed-aspects.php http://cafeastrology.com/articles/aspectpatterns.html
Cafeastrology calls this aspect Trapeze, which with my own research is not, but something different. The glossary below explains the differences. http://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/astrology/I-so-TOTALLY-have-a-Cradle-2271823.asp http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1554 http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology...e_cradle.shtml

“The apex planet can be a source of great creativity that channels the stress into positive, constructive activity, although the stress of the opposition may or may not finally be resolved. The Cradle has two Wedge figures in it, providing two different ways to potentially escape from the stress — or transform it into creativity. However, with so much opportunity to avoid problems, the temptation to take the easy way out is very strong. As a result, with a Cradle configuration in their chart may find it very difficult to resolve/heal the conflicts in their life represented by the opposition” http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/glossary/glossary_bc.htm
This last link is the best information available on this aspect

“The more the person can learn to face and resolve the conflict of the opposition, the more they will be able to use the talents and natural abilities in the Cradle in ways that are healthy, constructive and healing. On the other hand, the avoidance of problems can generate some pretty impressive creative ability, in the broadest sense of the word - not just artistic but any innovative, original or imaginative approach to the obstacles and challenges of life.” http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/glossary/glossary_bc.htm

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posted March 15, 2012 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
venus square moon has problems with what it wants emotionally in relationships and what fulfill them romantically. So who they are attracted to may not fulfil them emotionally and vice versa..

she has a YOD with sun as apex planets, so anything activating this yod at 2' mutable with do this.

this is why you should learn to use an ephemeris

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sun quincunx pluto
“can suffer from constant unrest and tension without knowing why. Often gives enormous ambition and a desire to remain viable at all costs. Driven by uncertainty, you may seem incapable of sparing yourself. Because of the insecurity you could be fiercely defensive of others but with typical plutonian lust for power, can (on occasion) enjoy manipulating them to. You will have a desire to grow through confrontations....”
From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag

Sun Quincunx Pluto
You are forced to focus, time and again, on details that you would prefer to ignore. When life slows down or becomes uncomfortable, simplify and be patient. You are changing and growing in ways that you can scarcely perceive. Stay involved in your everyday routines and only force a change on yourself when you feel stuck in some repetitive pattern. http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

Yods and quincunx thread in basic astrology forum http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000664.html
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Sun quincunx neptune
“shows that you consider your responsibilities the most pressing in the world. There is an element of self sacrifice. You really believe people who suggest that only you can solve their problems. Because of this martyr quality, you seek the most demanding jobs or human situations in order to test your commitment to service. Unsure of yourself you continually try to find ways to prove your competence, but deplete your own energies.
Professional success will be difficult to achieve because of your preoccupation with endless trivia. Exaggerating the importance of superficial matters, you tend to get bogged down by them.”

From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag

Sun Quincunx Neptune
“Your energy tends to be directed unrealistically. Your own sense of self changes as you learn from your own misappraisals of situations that are important to you. If you feel drained or frustrated it is always helpful to look at your overall direction in life and determine if you have taken on more through your high ideals than your physical vitality can sustain. It is always worthwhile to see how your ideas are received by others, to see if you can involve them in your vision. When you can't, avoid trying to do everything yourself. Slow down” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

Sometimes these quincunxs (aka Inconjuncts 150’) are obvious and recognised in personality, other times it can take a lot of self examination to identify with the planets energies and of course they (like all aspects) don't operate 100% of the time, they are simply a facet of your personality. Some say they cause health issues that are unresolved, underlying, dormant waiting to be triggered.... some say you stay at one end, to the detriment of the other, OR end up see-sawing between the two until you learn balance, integration of two unlikely pairings.

Next look at the signs, then houses and then aspects. Now the *others aspects* from these quincunxs/Yods as they can act like escape routes, that can help or hinder the expressions. A chart with lots of Yods (Finger of God) will always be *searching* for the divine answers to the meaning of life, to find synthesis
What tends to happen with quincunxs is that with progessions and transits will create temporary Yods aka 'Finger of god' configurations. Like with common TSquares, they create a temp Grand Square...

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posted March 15, 2012 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Sorry about the Saturn/NN
How could I tell about your sister Sweetie? Why don't you put her chart up with transits?


Saturn and NN are not making any aspects??
what were you looking at Natal NN, T NN, T saturn, N saturn?

I dont' see T Saturn in 12th as that difficult after all it is THE most cadent and hidden house...
As always transits simply act as background influences until they make an aspect to a planet or Angle ie: asc/mc

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posted March 15, 2012 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
You need to look at the solar arcs.
She has a problem w.unrealistic expectations that drive her moods back and forth, so she needs to get a handle on that.

Thanks for mentioning SA as I don't see them used enough around here and they ARE soooooo simple, espec for beginners..

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posted March 15, 2012 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
Solar arc + progressed + natal.
Her problems should be seen with the solar arc.
It's an option in the pull down, it has all three of them. And then set the date for the 12th. That's for her.

For you, whatever date the problem was the strongest, or for today if it's still ongoing.


It's MUCH much easier if you ask for the *aspect grid* for these as it will show SA, progressed and transits by orbs..

please also post the *pdf file*, above left of chart look for *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up 2pages. Scroll down to last page for the *ASPECT GRID* THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AS IT SEEMS TO SHOW MORE ASPECTS THAN IS VISIBLE ON THE BI WHEEL…

problem is uploading to photobucket (or imageshack) you have to change this from Abode format into a picture/jpeg format. This is done by getting the relevant page/grid in front of you on screen then, the press ‘prtsc sysrq’ - top row inbetween pause break and F12. This has been copied to clipboard.

Paste into Paint or some other photo software. Crop the picture and save to hard drive, then upload to photobucket, select chart, press IMG and past link into thread.... all done

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posted March 15, 2012 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for inthemisosoup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the readings Lonake and SaggiMC. I appreciate your help so much. I am taking time to really read and digest and reflect on what you've said. I'll be back if I have any questions.

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posted March 22, 2012 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for inthemisosoup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake or anyone who can read this: what about this red ASC "sol" which is at 28 cancer? Her SA Neptune is opposing that. What can that mean, and what does the sol ASC (not SA) stand for?

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