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FireMoon
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posted April 02, 2012 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I've been involved with this person on and off for a few years now, and circumstances have never allowed for it to be any sort of committed relationship, but it is definately one of the most intense connections I've ever had with anyone, and I feel I have grown as a person because of it. We have some very powerful aspects, but also some classic red flags, and I really don't know what to make of this relationship.

I'm not in a place in my life to be making long term plans with anyone (I'll be finishing school next year and everything is somewhat up in the air after that), but I just have a gut feeling this isn't something to walk away from completely.I don't want to jump the gun and try to rush into something that could end badly, but I also don't want to have regrets years down the line knowing that I missed out an opportunity that may never come again because I was too afraid or I was waiting for some sort of illusive "perfect time" that doesn't exist.

I've posted our synastry and composite charts. Unfortunately his birth time is unknown so please ignore his house placements and the houses in the composite...

Any insights or opinions anyone has would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!

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FireMoon
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posted April 02, 2012 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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ariesdragon
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posted April 02, 2012 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi firemoon, I'm just wondering how you feel with venus opposite mercury DW? Is that hard for you? It's in the synastry and composite so I was thinking that might be some irritation.
I think I had that before in synastry.

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ariesdragon
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posted April 02, 2012 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Be careful with Venus square Neptune & Uranus in your Composite

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FireMoon
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posted April 03, 2012 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi ariesdragon, thanks for your reply!!

I guess it’s hard to say, our conversations usually take on a life of their own which is unusual for me since I usually over-analyze everything, but there is always a buzz of nervous energy surrounding them, which yes, can lead to some misunderstandings. I guess ultimately it creates a very exciting intellectual connection, but isn’t great for communicating on an emotional level, which can be a bit unsettling.

How did you feel with this aspect? Was it difficult to discuss the romantic elements of your relationship?

And yes, Venus square Neptune and Uranus is a major warning sign. As a Capricorn I don’t usually wander into something without thinking about the worst possible consequences, but there is just an element of mysterious excitement in this relationship that I can’t seem to resist. Maybe that’s my Venus in 8th house

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ariesdragon
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posted April 03, 2012 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NP Firemoon Ohhh I just remembered I had mercury opposite mercury so it wasn't Venus/mercury. For me it was superficial conversations and couldn't lead to depth which was of course not very romantic. I'm a guy but I really like conversations on a deeper level as well as fun ones too.
It sounds like an exciting relationship for you and I'm sure you will remember the hard aspects and curb around them whenever possible....

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FireMoon
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posted April 03, 2012 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
NP Firemoon Ohhh I just remembered I had mercury opposite mercury so it wasn't Venus/mercury. For me it was superficial conversations and couldn't lead to depth which was of course not very romantic. I'm a guy but I really like conversations on a deeper level as well as fun ones too.
It sounds like an exciting relationship for you and I'm sure you will remember the hard aspects and curb around them whenever possible....

I agree, there has to be a good balance! Yeah I guess I'll just have to see what happens, I think the good aspects outweight the bad but I'm still trying to be cautious. Anyway, thanks again!

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Doux Rêve
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posted April 03, 2012 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi FireMoon,


I took a look at your charts, and what really jumped out at me is obviously the composite chart. It's very heavy, and the outer planets are very busy in there. So there are probably some outside forces that may prevent you from being truly together.


But I'll just quickly comment on the synastry first.

You have a very strong Saturn influence so it is probably a serious connection and hard to step away from. You may feel responsible for each other in some ways, and may feel very attracted to each other.

His Moon squares your Sun and Neptune, so he may feel like you have the upper hand at times. He may not see you very clearly, and you may not see him very clearly either, because his Neptune is on your DSC. There may be some fundamental differences between you two because his needs (Moon) clash with your Self (Sun). There is definitely attraction though.

Mercury conjunct Jupiter really helps here, because you can communicate quite freely with each other, and you probably share some similar views on life.

His Sun and Jupiter fall on your ASC, so that's a good thing, too. You like each other and see a similarity in each other. You can be quite forgiving of each other's faults, too.

Moon trine Mercury means that you understand each other emotionally, and it's easy for you to confide in each other, despite the differences you may have.


The Venus Mercury oppositions add to the attraction, and make you want to share things with one another. Chatty aspect, and is said to be good for kissing!

His Saturn is in your 7th so that should help the relationship be stable despite other disruptive elements.

Venus on NN is very powerful, it points to attraction and a "need" to be together, because you stimulate each other to grow. He's the one who needs to grow here, because it's his NN and you show him where he needs to go with your Venus. Could be either way actually.

Mars trine Mercury, good for communication, again.

Sun Jupiter opposite Sun, complimentary aspect, while you're quite different you are fascinated by each other and attraction is likely. It can be hard to find a balance sometimes but it can be achieved.


Now, the composite:

Neptune is very prominent so be careful not to be too irrealistic or confused about this whole relationship.

The T square between Mars Pluto and the Moon worries me because it indicates emotional volatility to the point of arguments and fights, hopefully not to the point of violence. Venus is squared by Uranus, Neptune and Saturn, and quincunx Pluto. Can mean that the relationship is very unstable, yet seems beautiful, and is probably very intense. The square to Saturn either indicates that you may feel restriced by each other or that external or internal influences prevent you from showing your love freely to each other.

Sun conjunct Mercury opposite Venus is a good indicator for mutual understanding and attraction. They are in easy aspect to the Moon so it's a good thing, can be a point of release to the hard aspects.

Mercury quincunx Mars, can point to misunderstandings and arguments, or petty annoyances.

I think the most important things to keep in mind here is that it may be hard to get this relationship off the ground, as the outer planets indicate, and next thing, if it does develop into something, beware of the differences between you and your partner because they can easily escalate into heated arguments. This is probably a very intense connection so you cannot take anything that the other does lightly, and that's why it could lead to some hurtful words/actions/misunderstandings. Try your best to communicate clearly with each other and let each other know of the expectations you have.


This shouldn't be too difficult because you have some good Mercury aspects and they're in the same element, so it should go well with enough self awareness and honesty.


One more thing, his Venus is in your 12th, that may show that he hides his feelings from you or that you hide your feelings from him; or that one of you doesn't really trust the other. There may be an element of secretiveness about the whole thing, too. Be careful with deception, especially since Neptune is so strong in both the synastry and the composite.

Good luck, hopefully this will work out for you, and keep your eyes wide open!

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FireMoon
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posted April 03, 2012 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Doux Reve,

Thank you so much for your reading, everything you said is totally accurate!

The positive Mercury aspects definitely play a big part in our relationship. We do seem to be compelled to share things with one another, and can easily explore deeper subjects I don’t think either of us would so readily discuss with most people. It’s a huge breath of fresh air as I feel he innately understands who I am or what I mean even if I don’t express it explicitly, and vice-versa.

I definitely get the Neptune/ 12th house vibe as well. We express our affection for each other in round-about and nuanced ways, or “could be hypothetical” musings of future plans together. It’s really strange actually. We can openly discuss the depths of our intellectual connection, but generally keep emotions out of the conversation. I know if I’m honest with myself I do have deeper feelings for him, and I don’t think they are unreciprocated.

The T square with Mars, Pluto and the Moon in our composite is a little unsettling, but we generally don’t seem to annoy each other and have never gotten into any sort of major argument. I guess we’ve also never even been in a committed relationship let alone lived together or anything like that, so it’s still something to look out for! If anything though, I see this maybe playing out in the intensity of our physical attraction, but in a good way

As you said, the main thing preventing this from being an actual relationship has always been external circumstances. Timing, location, etc. have always gotten in the way. We actually met in high school and went our separate ways after that, but a year later wound up directly in one another’s paths once again without intending to do so. Now is another major turning point, he’s moving to finish school (only an hour away but still), and I’ll be graduating soon and want to travel while I have the opportunity. I know it’s not something that can be controlled at this point, but part of me is afraid I’ll lose out on this opportunity by taking my chances and leaving it to fate once again… But I guess that’s life

Anyway, sorry for rambling, and thank you again for looking at the charts I really appreciate it!!

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FireMoon
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posted April 04, 2012 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, I just have a general question about synastry/ compatibility in general, how significant (if at all) do you think the asteroids are in compatibility? Or the arabic points (part of fortune or marriage)?

Something I noticed a while ago when I calculated my part of marriage is that it is exactly conjuct his venus. Obviously I'm not even close to thinking about marriage any time soon, and I've heard it's not really significant anyway, I just thought it's a weird coincidence. I've also never really paid much attention to the asteroids, but just curious what your opinion is... Thanks!

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Doux Rêve
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posted April 04, 2012 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome, I'm glad it was at least somewhat accurate!


I think with such contacts, even if you go your separate ways, chances are, the bond will remain and I wouldn't be surprised if you met again after some time.

But of course, I can understand that you're a bit worried because what if you truly miss your chance? But, as I said, I think most things happen for a reason and there is usually a good motive behind every event.

So, take it easy and keep believing something good will come out of this.

As for the asteroids and arabic parts, I don't use them that much, because I think they're not as important as the actual planets and angles.

They probably do add some flavour to the overall connection though!

And it's an interesting "coincidence", indeed! I think it may mean that you see him as a potential partner, marriage or not.

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