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Stargazer Knowflake Posts: 46 From: just left of center Registered: May 2009
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posted November 02, 2005 01:49 PM
This is the first time i've posted my chart. I always seem to have big life altering problems in the 7th house. i get tangled up into all kinds of love/hate things... can someone help me with these aspects... depending ont he site, some say my venus is afflicted... its in dog awful shape but is it hopeless? Also, all these Quin and bi-quin stuff is this important? how does it fit in? any replys are welcome.....http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=achart_t50fileQQzYNy-u1126038229.67611.7626.gif&res=100&va= still trying to figure myself out!
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Stargazer Knowflake Posts: 46 From: just left of center Registered: May 2009
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posted November 02, 2005 01:56 PM
Planetary positions planet sign degree house motion Sun Virgo 01°03'19 07 direct Moon Aries 25°09'02 03 direct Mercury Virgo 01°20'04 07 direct Venus Virgo 08°50'37 07 retrograde Mars Scorpio 19°46'17 10 direct Jupiter Leo 19°03'53 07 direct Saturn Aries 11°40'48 02 retrograde Uranus Virgo 23°18'15 08 direct Neptune Scorpio 21°42'10 10 direct Pluto Virgo 19°43'40 08 direct True Node Aries 29°28'00 03 retrograde House positions (Placidus) Ascendant Capricorn 26°02'57 2nd House Pisces 11°08'19 3rd House Aries 20°36'03 Imum Coeli Taurus 19°12'47 5th House Gemini 11°37'32 6th House Cancer 02°21'10 Descendant Cancer 26°02'57 8th House Virgo 11°08'19 9th House Libra 20°36'03 Medium Coeli Scorpio 19°12'47 11th House Sagittarius 11°37'32 12th House Capricorn 02°21'10 Major aspects Sun Trine Moon 5°54 Sun Conjunction Mercury 0°17 Sun Conjunction Venus 7°47 Moon Trine Mercury 6°11 Moon Trine Jupiter 6°05 Moon Quincunx Uranus 1°51 Moon Square Ascendant 0°54 Venus Quincunx Saturn 2°50 Mars Square Jupiter 0°42 Mars Sextile Uranus 3°32 Mars Conjunction Neptune 1°56 Mars Sextile Pluto 0°03 Jupiter Square Neptune 2°38 Uranus Sextile Neptune 1°36 Uranus Conjunction Pluto 3°35 Uranus Trine Ascendant 2°45 Neptune Sextile Pluto 1°58 Neptune Sextile Ascendant 4°21 Sorry!!! i get confused with the art stuff
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beebuddy unregistered
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posted November 02, 2005 02:05 PM
I'll look at it in a few days.IP: Logged |
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posted November 02, 2005 03:16 PM
You should look at the "Cool links" in the astrology forums or just do a google search because a lot of what you are looking for is out there. You lazy butt I will look at it though. Promise. IP: Logged |
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posted November 02, 2005 03:17 PM
ooooh, I just realized I called a Virgo a "lazy butt"... that could turn out to be a big mistake! IP: Logged |
Stargazer Knowflake Posts: 46 From: just left of center Registered: May 2009
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posted November 02, 2005 08:27 PM
Beebuddy.... i've looked them up.. it varies.. the info out there... and where i lose it is the house stuff... like Mars in the 10th sq, venus in the 7th. Then how does Scorpio on the 10th cusp and cancer on the 7th cusp come into play? I guess i'm wanting someone else to show me how that fits together... i get too bogged down in the details... forrest for the trees syndrome.. its hard to see the big picture... thanks for your time.. whenever you have some.... IP: Logged |
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posted November 02, 2005 09:10 PM
Well, Mars is the planet of action, impulse and assertiveness. These qualities will manifest in the areas of life ruled by the 10th house, renown, career, social status etc... The 10th house is in Scorpio which means that career will have some passion or be somehow involved in psychology, religion, healing or some other Scorpioish thing. I don't get too into predictions so I won't say "such and such would be a good career for you". What I would say is that either society will see you as "Scorpio-ish" because of your career and renown OR you will gain renown and career and status through "Scorpio-ish" ways. Now to put it all together, there will be much action and a strong impulse to succeed in your career (let's forget about the Scorpio thing for now). BUT... Venus, the planet of physical beauty, harmony, grace and femininity is exerting it's qualities in the area of life ruled by the 7th house, (marriage, partnerships and relationships.) Again this is in Cancer so somehow one partner will play "mother" or "protector" (but let's ignore this for right now). NOW, the inner planets are interpreted as being affected/influenced by the outer planets. This is all relative and in this case Mars squared Venus means that Mars influences Venus because Mars is further out past Sun (distance). That means... This aspect can be interpreted this way... Somehow the drive and ambition or even impulse towards career and renown will somehow stifle or block the qualities of Venus from expressing in the Seventh house. THIS ISN'T BAD! This is neutral info still. It is possible that the type of relationship indicated by the Venus/Cancer/7th house is a relationship that you wouldn't enjoy or would be unhealthy. SO, it could be a blessing. Let that simmer for awhile and let me know if I answered you in a way that was satisfactory. If not, please reframe your question. IP: Logged |
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posted November 02, 2005 09:23 PM
Simplfied...Planets = qualities. Houses = areas of life. Planets in houses = qualities manifesting in those areas of life. I do look at the signs that all of that stuff is happening in to a certain degree but I see it as much less important (especially in the learning process) than house number, planet and aspects between planets. Those are the big ones. Planet, house, aspect. It's actually rather easy to simply memorize everything associated with the planets, houses and aspects. When it's memorized it becomes a matter of 1+1=2. IP: Logged |
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posted November 03, 2005 12:37 AM
Stargazer,I can't access your birth chart. Please post your chart information in the format: Month Day, Year of birth City County/Province State/Country Time of birth: ##:## AM/PM AND if you want an "all forest" approach to astrology, see: http://www.geocities.com/wilsontctc Taking an all forest approach to astrology, Tim IP: Logged |
Stargazer Knowflake Posts: 46 From: just left of center Registered: May 2009
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posted November 03, 2005 11:08 AM
Beebuddy...thank you!! The mars stuff makes sense... the 10th house .. i understand... i own my own business.. celebrating 10 years in 2006.... i am most comfortable being in charge... having control....hard to let go... However, its more the 7th house that confuses me.. I have cancer on the DC the 7th house... partnerships... marriage-Success and failure.... dealing with others...enemies.. social drive... This is an important house.. yes? Jupiter is in the 7th in leo- i also have in virgo- merc, sun, and venus rx in the 7th.. so is that to say that cancer leo and virgo all affect my 7th house. Thats alot... Mars sq. Jupiter is pretty tight so is this to say that there will likely be challenges between my career and my relationships (speaking simply)? Both angular(greater scope of action) as far as house involved. The focalpoint of my chart, i believe is the 7th house.. true? I guess when i then look at merc, venus and of course the sun i get pretty lost....am i making it harder than it is?? wilsontc.... thanks in advance!!!! DOB info.... 8/24/67...6:29p.m Columbus, Ohio USA IP: Logged |
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posted November 03, 2005 03:12 PM
IMO, there isn't a focal point to charts. That could be considered nonsense by others. Ask around. Lalalinda may give you a different answer if you ask her. Also Wilsontc may not share that opinion.There IS a stellium in the 7th house. Merc, Venus and Sun are BLENDED together. Have you memorized the qualitites associated with each planet and house? Specifically, the challenge in relationships may come from career and not the other way around. Honestly though, you don't need astrology to tell you that, right? If you become more aware of that through astrology that is great though... what will you do to balance this problem? What is your sex by the way? Whether or not you are male or female is important when interpreting venus and mars. IP: Logged |
Stargazer Knowflake Posts: 46 From: just left of center Registered: May 2009
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posted November 03, 2005 04:41 PM
Thanks Bee i am at major crossroads on all fronts... business is tied up with my marriage... for a longggggg time it has worked well... but things have gone south as of late and i keep getting myself caught up in the same old thing... i don't seem to be able to not learn the hard way and in many instances twice. I'm just sick of it... i think as a virgo, a better understanding of my true self, motives included will serve me better in the future and the choices i need to make. Thus far, with very few exceptions, my choices have turned out to be disappointing! Yes, i have memorized the basics but like i said i have a hard time putting it together...I have never had any one else look at my chart or interpret anything.... with all my social placements i have a better understanding now as to the "why"... someone elses opinion or interpretation is important to me... IP: Logged |
Stargazer Knowflake Posts: 46 From: just left of center Registered: May 2009
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posted November 03, 2005 04:43 PM
Sorry!!!! i'm a femaleIP: Logged |
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posted November 03, 2005 09:10 PM
Star,Thanks for posting your birth information! And now for the forest I promised! Since you have more planets on the top of your chart than at the bottom you focus more on the outer world than on your inner world Since you have more planets on the right side of the chart than on the left you focus on others more than on yourself Since you have the most planets in the top right of your chart you focus most on "Achievement", meaning you take what you know about others to help them out in the outside world You have the strongest focus of energy (4 planets) on the seventh house (relationships), you are STRONGLY focused on relationships And, while there is no ONE focal point in charts, charts frequently show strong patterns: - focus on 7th house (relationships) - Venus focused in the house it rules (relationships) - Easy Opposition focused on 7th house stellium - Boomerang focused on Libra (relationships) modifying South Node So, as you mentioned, there is a LOT of relationships energy in your life! (Which you already know! ) However, since Libra modifies your South node, Aries (being, also action) modifies your North node (future goals), so you need to take some action for yourself in order to fully develop yourself in your life. Now, if we take a look at your chart configuration, it is a locomotive chart. According to Tracy Marks of Art of Chart Interpretation: Locomotive pattern - "All planets fall within 240 degrees (or a maximum of 250 degrees) with no more than two houses or 60 degrees empty within the occupied area, and with a trine bridging the unoccupied area...energetic, self-driving, determined individual who single-mindedly focuses upon achieving...[their] purpose, which is generally indicated by the midpoint of the empty trine...(the first [planet] to have crossed the ascendant, moving clockwise) is the engine; its sign and house position indicates the energy which fuels...[their] drive to incorporate the midpoint of the empty trine into...[their] life." The midpoint of the empty trine is the 5th house (self-expression), and the first planet to have crossed the Ascendant is Neptune (spirituality, also confusion). So you use some type of spiritual connection in order to develop your self-expression. The challenge of this is that it can lead to a confused self-expression. This confusion is increased with Neptune conjunct your (energy is combined with) your Midheaven (outer world) An offset to this confusion is a T-square focused on Capricorn (duty, also career) modifying Ascendant (self). So your CAREER is a saving focus from the self-confusion issues. Taking a look at your transits, you have transiting (planets in the sky) Uranus (friends, also restructuring) opposing (energy is over-excited by) some of your personal planets (personal energy), so this is a time of personal restructuring. Transiting Uranus is ALSO focused in the first house (being, also action), further emphasizing the need to take action. Since Mars rules Aries, we look to Mars in your chart and see you have Scorpio (transformation, also power) modifying Mars, so you need to take POWERFUL action in your life. In terms of transits, you also have transiting Saturn (duty, also career, structure) moving through your 7th house, so this is also a time of structuring your relationships, perhaps in terms of your career. And you have transiting Pluto square (energy needs to be combined with) your birth Pluto, so it is time of facing power issues around you and using them to build and develop your own power. So, in other words, this is a time for YOU to take action. Get the opinions of others about what to do, but then take control of the situation and take the necessary actions! It is an opportunity to do things for YOURSELF (with a little help from others ). After all, this is a life goal, so it only makes sense to work a little on it now! Charting, Tim IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 17330 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 04, 2005 07:32 AM
------------------ "There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll IP: Logged |
Stargazer Knowflake Posts: 46 From: just left of center Registered: May 2009
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posted November 04, 2005 11:09 AM
Tim... i really appreciate your time and energy... the "big picture" has all too often been hard for me to see all on my own.....there it is.."all on my own"... i've been led most of the way....never really been on my own...in any way... so the thought of that initially scares me. To be honest, i think the word confusion Neptune brings could be replaced with delusion in some of those sentences. Inwardly. I know i have a lot of strengths as well.. i'm one of those light up the room kinda people. But thats the outside... inside its often pretty dark.... have much to consider... Thank you again !! I am in awe of your forrest abilities Tim...and so am enlightened by it!!! IP: Logged |
Stargazer Knowflake Posts: 46 From: just left of center Registered: May 2009
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posted November 04, 2005 03:06 PM
Bee... I did have time to look at more of thr "Cool Links" string and there is a great abundance of info there!!! i really like astroweekly... the interps were very deep and specific... i would look at the next one in my chart and think oh my.. here we go.... lol Thank you again for everything! IP: Logged |
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posted November 04, 2005 08:41 PM
Coolness. That site is great and there are actually 3 or 4 similiar ones! Good luck.IP: Logged |
Stargazer Knowflake Posts: 46 From: just left of center Registered: May 2009
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posted November 13, 2005 12:39 PM
Hi all...Posting again because i keep getting pulled back to this aspect description.. This is from Astroweekly.(thanks again Bee) Astrology aspects - Venus quincunx Saturn The inconjunct between Venus and Saturn indicates that you feel burdened by excessive responsibilities. You feel that other people always want you to do something for them, and you resent it. Actually, you overreact, assuming they want more from you than they do. It would be unfair to criticize them for this. You really want everyone to approve of you, so you try to buy approval by offering yourself. You must carefully evaluate your priorities for yourself and for others. Your greatest problem is that you don't like yourself enough, so you feel that you really deserve to be used by others. If you think about it, all you owe anybody else is tolerance and respect. You owe yourself much more than this - for instance, to be free from intimidation, to know your own worth, and to be burdened only by matters that serve your interests. When you have achieved some satisfaction of your own needs, it will be time enough to do it for others. If you improve your opinion of yourself, you can accomplish many things in your career. The same intensity you directed towards others can be used to develop your natural talents. You have enormous potential for success. You are serious and responsible about doing your work well; in fact, you probably work harder than your co-workers or competitors. There are many fields in which you could find satisfaction and reasonable success, including public relations, interior design, horticulture, real estate, and sales. You are sufficiently flexible to fit into many categories of occupational interests. Your love interests may be burdensome unless you stand firm and refuse to let your lover consider you as anything less than an equal. You should be suspicious if you are constantly kept waiting, or if your partner always strays over to others at a gathering, leaving you alone. These are signs that interest is waning or that you are considered an object that can be put aside when something more interesting comes along. If you occasionally find yourself alone, try not to grow depressed and conclude that no-one wants you. Use the opportunity to learn new skills or develop those you already have. You have every chance of being greatly admired if you will simply mobilize your efforts toward specific goals. Depression is your worst enemy, for it interferes with good digestion and assimilation This is the only aspect Saturn makes in my chart. Of course this is with venus which ain't pretty either. I have come to the conclusion that with both these panets retrograde and in their fall in my natal..making this aspect is a key to unlocking the door....I seem to have this great Karmic dept to pay. I have let many people make me feel bad about myself....Shelved and Resentful Tim You were right when you said that this is a life goal... I know the nodes have a great deal to do with the "how to" .. to learn from where you've been to achieve the power and direction in moving forward.. Do you have any more input on the nodes in my chart... ? IP: Logged |
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posted November 13, 2005 02:12 PM
Star,You have Aries (being, also action) modifying North node (future goals) conjunct (energy is combined with) Moon (home, also emotions) focused in the 3rd house (thinking, also details, talking, writing). This seems to indicate that you need to collect all the details and then take action when it "feels right". Since the nodes have an Easy Opposition focused on the 7th house (relationships), it is important to take everyone's opinions into account before you take action. But, once you decide to take action, YOU must take the action (Aries energy always focuses on the personal over the relational). If you do NOT take the action, you get stuck in the Libra (relationships) South node (the past) and end up questioning and questioning those around you without any result being taken. So...when you decide you have enough information to decide what you feel you want to do...do it! Nodally, Tim IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 2153 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 23, 2005 04:37 PM
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