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5Gemini
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posted April 11, 2012 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 5Gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People seem to be looking into synastry aspects like they are deciding if they should invest in a relationship or not.

Sun conjunct Venus, Venus conjunct Mars etc are all aspects I see come up however nobody ever talks about the harsh aspects, aka the WARNINGS.

Can anybody list harsh aspects that defy conventional aspects in synastry?

For one, I heard Mars sq Saturn is very prominent in couples who have married and sustained the relationship.

However, I do believe personal planets touching another persons 7th house, 4th house etc do add greater significance.

Aspects such as trines and sextiles between personal planets don't seem to me as 'good' aspects at all. There has to be conflict in order for one to grow in the relationship. To confront them and evolve is a choice people have..

Sorry if thoughts are a little sporadic at the moment but thought I would start this topic and gather opinions from you

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posted April 11, 2012 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 5Gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oops, didnt post this under astrology 2.0 please move

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posted April 11, 2012 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 5Gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 11, 2012 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in harsh aspect to Pluto is one that I usually see as a warning sign. As always, the rest of the chart is crucial but this is one aspect I never look at favourably.

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posted April 11, 2012 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 5Gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Mars sq Pluto, its obsessiveness, manipulation and violence

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posted April 12, 2012 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are a lot of aspects in a Synastry chart and the majority of them are of the stressful nature.The more desirable aspects people are looking for are much more difficult to find in Synastry charts, so people are asking about them and looking for them. The people who have experienced the more favorable aspects understand their value in a relationship.

The stressful aspects can and do help strengthen unions but they also have the power to tear it apart. It then, is the more favorable aspects that tend to help hold the union together. Think of it this way; some poor couples have little to show for their life together but they are happy with each other (This is a lot of stressful aspects with one or two favorable aspects supporting them). On the other hand, there is this rich couple who are constantly fighting (They have a lot of favorable aspects but their stressful aspects are of the type that causes them to constantly find fault with each other). The key; the majority of aspects in a Synastry chart are stressful, aspects do not cancel eachother out, so there must be enough of the good aspects present to help the union stay even keel.

ASPECTS TO LIVE FOR

People yearn for a better life.

"Surround Yourself With Positive People"

But there is just one little problem with that statement. How do you identify positive people for yourself? The best way is to follow daily transiting planet (either from the present to the future or from the past to the present) aspects that form against your natal planets. Any transiting day that you consider as a good day will, also, mean a person born on that day is also a good person for you know too. This is because: Transiting aspects to your natal planets equal Synastry aspects of the same day transiting aspects.

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Synastry Aspect Categories:
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Aspects representing the influences that affect you as a unit.

(A SMALL REMINDER ABOUT ASPECTS)

Some may think that because we have a certain aspect or lack of some, that we have that problem or fortune. Not true. Your destiny is not shaped by your aspects. We each have our own essences about us. When we meet, socialize, fight, love and work with each other, it’s our non physical presents, the essences, which merge together. That merger creates the dynamic energies between us. Aspects are used to express the potential, behind the dynamic influences of the essence within us. This is similar to answering the question: Why do we have chemical reactions in the physical world? The verbal and written answer to the question does not create the chemical reactions but rather, the attempt to answer explains how - why - and when chemical reactions may occur.

People have the POWER to shape their life into any form they choose. By dreaming, studying, planning, teaming, taking action, making adjustments and, compromising towards goals; you can take your life into a self proclaimed direction. The words behind aspects are not essential to this process.

No man is an island, to get somewhere in life, though, you will have to have the approval of someone and the help of at least one other person. You can use Synastry Aspects to help you prescreen many of the individuals suitable to your needs. Your journey through life does not have to be based purely on the chance of meeting the right people or person. Through the use of Synastry Astrology aspects, you may have another method to identify good people for yourself .)


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01.) <-- Ambition --> requires DOB, timeing + location for MC of at least one person.

02.) <-- Growth (advancements) --> JP & or P aspects*

03.) <-- Love --> VE & or M aspects (these work as substitues for each other, if VE is missing we look to the M and visa versa.)

04.) <-- Emotions --> M & or VE & or NP (these work as substitues for each other, if VE is missing we look to the M and or NP and visa versa.)

05.) <-- Sex --> MR, VE, UR, M & or P combos between themselves.

06.) <-- Aggression --> S, MR & or P combos

07.) <-- Physical Activities --> S, MR, UR, P & or MC

08.) <-- Mental (friendships) --> MY, JP, SA & or, UR, (M 60/120 SA)* combos

09.) <-- Trust --> M, JP, SA, UR, P & or, Asc aspects combos between themselves.

10.) <-- Money --> primiarily VE, JP, SA & or, P

11.) <-- Attractions --> (S/ M, JP), (M/ MR, JP), (VE/ VE, MR, UR, P, Asc), (MR/ Asc)

12.) <-- Luck (good timing) --> (UR/ VE & or JP), (S 60 JP), (M 120 Asc)

14.) <-- Physical Fights (catalyst potentials) -->

(S 90 S), (S 180 MR), (M 90 MR), (M 180 P), (MY 90 P), (MR 90/180 MR), (MR 180 SA), (MR 180 UR), (MR 90/180 P), (MR 180 MC), (MR 90/180 Asc)


15.) <-- Major Support (helping each other) -->

(S 120 M), (S 0/120 JP), (S 120 P), (S 120 Asc)
(M 0/120 JP), (M 120 SA), (M 120 P)
(MY 0 VE), (MY 120 P), (MY 0 Asc)
(VE 120 VE), (VE 120 SA)
(MR 120 MR), (MR 120 SA)
(JP 0 JP), (JP 120 SA), (JP 120 P), (JP 120 Asc)
(SA 0/120 UR), (SA 120 NP), (SA 120 P)
And all favorable influences aspecting MC.

16.) <-- Reaching Out (teaching others) --> (M 120 JP), (MR 120 JP), (SA 120 UR), (SA 120 NP)

17.) <-- Power Players (Forging in-roads to the max - going too far can mean self - destruction) -->

(S 0 MR), (S 0 P), (S 0 MC), (S 0 Asc)
(M 0 MR), (M 0 P),
(MY 0 MR), (MY 0 P)
(VE 0 P)
(MR 0 MR)
(JP 0 P), (JP 0 MC)
(SA 0 P), (SA 0 MC)
(UR 0 P)

18. <-- Soul Mates -->
(A blinding of your mystical and spiritual energies that create an uplifting awareness of your individual essence and an intuitive perception of your opposite's disposition.)

(S 120 UR), (S 120 NP), (S 120 Asc)
(M 0/120 M), (M 0/120 JP), (M 120 NP)
(MY 120 VE), (MY 120 UR), (MY 120 NP)
(VE 0/120 JP), (VE 0/120 NP), (VE 120 P)
(JP 0/120 JP), (JP 120 UR), (JP 120 NP), (JP 0, 120, 180 Asc)
(SA 0/120 UR)
(UR 120 P)
(NP 120 Asc)


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* Major Aspects:
We use a maximum orb of 5 degrees with these aspects and a 2 degree orb for aspects not listed.

0 = 0 degree = Conjunction -- (a catalyst for both good and bad responses)
60 = 60 degree = Sextile -- (a chance to create an opportunity)
90 = 90 degree = Square -- (a direct difference of opinion)
120 = 120 degree = Trine -- (a blending of thought and actions)
180 = 180 degree = Opposition -- (think compromise, compromise, compromise; otherwise depending on the planets involved - a combination of the conjuction and [trine or square] dominates the situation)

These are the planets we use:
S = Sun -- (basically: ego & persuasion power)
M = Moon -- (basically: your emotions & ability to reach others emotions)
NN = North Nord -- (basically: ability to tape into the public's needs and wants)
MY = Mercury -- (basically: thinking and conversing skills)
VE = Venus -- (basically: your ability to draw towards you; money & the love and concerns of others)
MR = Mars -- (basically: ego & ability to physically do things)
JP = Jupiter -- (basically: growth (physical and material) & your ability to get advantageous help)
SA = Saturn -- (basically: a restrictor, status quo & logic & stability)
UR = Uranus -- (basically: 21st Century & all electronic devices, egocentric personalities, captivating person, unstable conditions)
NP = Neptune -- (basically: that indescribable essence of another, mystical presences [the movie character Capt. Jack Sparrow])
P = Pluto -- (basically: a heighten sense of desire, drive, power. possession gathering and leading abilities)
MC = your Midheaven -- (basically: ability to attract attention through business activities)
Asc = your Ascendant -- (basically: ability to attract public attention through your personality)

Slowpoke

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At last!! Slowpoke has arrived! What took you so long Slowpoke? He smiles and says, Hey, you know me; I ride a fast Tortes, while dismounting his trusty mount named Triumph. Together we get the job done through a slow and steady pace of determination and concentration.

Ok Triumph, lets . . . move along!
(The surrounding audience responds; Oh my goodness, it is going to take him three days to leave this room . . . LOL)

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A few notes:

This is not an all inclusive Synastry aspect list. - This list of aspects highlights the major specialty aspects many of us would like to see in our charts. The aspects we tend to focus on. Rarely do we get to see a large number of these aspects in one chart.

Soul Mates -
based on Synastry Astrology. - Ideally, we think of these couples as happy and compatible. But by way of Synastry aspect combinations, it is possible to see Soul Mate type aspects in charts that show the potential for very turbulent unions. The individuals pertaining to these charts could prove to be very formidable combatants. I once heard someone say "He's a great lover but I just don't like him". Two movies come to mind where we might be able to see Soul Mate interactions in play, one I believe was called the War of the Roses and the other I believe was called the Money Pit. In both cases, the Soul Mate instincts had a hard time in letting go.

Relationships -
Relationships are about both sides. You each must find value in it. Not equal value, but rather, the type of value that gives each of you, in your own way, reason to stay in the relationship.

Many of us know how depressing things become by discussing the meaning behind some of the stressful aspects. So it is probably best to discuss them on a need to know basis.

There are many aspects missing above. - I consider the missing aspects to be everyday mundane stuff that are found frequently. I view the missing squares and oppositions as nuisance influences. These are the influences that create the differences of opinion between people on a day to day basis. These are the aspects most of us have in one form or another. If you don't see a particular square or opposition here in the list, I consider it a nuisance aspect. The same holds true for missing favorable aspects. I consider them the fluff stuff. These are the aspects we tend to skim over when looking at a chart. They are frequently found in charts as well. If you do not see a particular sextile, trine or, conjunction in the list then I consider it as part of the fluff stuff. Minor aspects are, also, not present here. In all cases, the minor aspects, fluff stuff and, the nuisances are necessary evils to the formation of any chart.

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