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geea
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posted April 18, 2012 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what are the signs of stalking in a synastry?

i'll post the aspects between me and this guy that i meet on valentine's day and whom i told from the beggining i wasn't available.He said he was ok w/ it, just hanging out as friends then after a time we became closer because i was very confortable around him. He dumped his gf for cheating so i wanted to listen and be as understanding as a friend could be.
Big mistake! I found out then he even slaped her face when he saw her talking with some other guy.
Then started to do the same with me,but verbally. He started asking explanations about what i do, who i spend my time with, and stuff like that. Very frustrated, started saying it was his right to know because i don't show him the proper respect.One day i got furious and i told him that not even my bf asks me these things. All he said was "our connection is special, that with u i opened up like never before." According to him i was very sexy when i got angry and all he wanted was to play a little bit and push me over my limits, because i was too calm. wtf? He even asked why is it he never hears me cursing, and why i act like a nun. So that day i got angry and furious and all he did was saying he is satisfied because this means that i care for him. I realised i need to break all ties with this person but as a libra that i am( i know i am stupidly polite)
i tried to make him see me as bad person just not making him suffer. I just couldn't tell him in the face. I told him eventually, i like spending my time with him, but as friends, nothing more. He answered that ALL the girls he had, weren't available when they met so it's no problem to him. He's dramatizing all the time, saying i made him dream about true love and now i am revealing another face, he calls me at 3 in the morning with private numbers. I blocked him and then i started receveing sms from unknown id in middle of the night asking me if i am sleeping, i know it's him,because he was doing it before. An hour ago i had a phone call from him, i get one every week, i just stopped answering. I don't worry about it anymore, i know he is just playing his last cards, but i am curious about what aspects between our charts,show this kind of relationship between 2 people.
http://www.astro.com/tmpd/czz4fileT4Zmat-u1334750935/astro _61ast_01_03_cri_jones_second_person.48102.59377.gif?59653

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sweet-scorpion
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posted April 18, 2012 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry you are going through this. I hope he leaves you alone soon... but it doesn't seem likely, huh. In such a situation you could say he is harassing you, couldn't you? I know you say you're not worried about it that much, which is good, but still it must be hard to deal with all the same. If he keeps bothering you into the near future, I'd take legal action.

Anyway, I observed the chart briefly - I can come back to continue reading more later. There were some things right off the bat that I noticed for a not so great union between two people. And also what could explain bizarre behavior from him.

One is Venus quincunx Uranus. This leads to one partner having sudden changes in feelings and perspective that can dramatically alter the relationship. Maybe this aspect is what lead everything to go sour for you to start with. You saw him as someone you could be an understanding friend to... and then suddenly, he plunges into this relationship with the ideals that you two should open up to one another, bear it all, be devoted, etc. etc.! That's weird. Especially if you haven't actually known each other for too long. This Venus-Uranus aspect makes you probably think that he is very strange romantically, that's obvious (and justified!). He has bizarre and erratic actions in the relationship between you two, which is essentially what the harsh Venus-Uranus aspect in your synastry seems to say.

Another reason this guy is probably very into you sexually and telling you to 'loosen up' and just stop being so defensive is because of the Mars-Sun conjunction in Gemini. A Mars-Sun conjunction indicates that one partner feels totally physically attracted to the other; usually this is the Sun partner, and appropriately it is his Sun on the outside conjunct your Mars. And I've read that in this scenario, it's usually the Mars person who is accused of being too defensive or distant from seeing how the Sun feels that hot spark of chemistry. I don't always like this aspect in synastry when the others are BAD, because in your case it seems like he is almost trying to fight fire with fire, Sun against Mars- to bully you into seeing how 'hot' you two could be together, to the point that he's calling you a nun! Ridiculous. How do you feel about this interpretation?

To make matters worse, his Uranus squares YOUR Venus. This is called the 'divorce aspect' I've heard. How does this relate to you? It shows that this guy, is the one who is jostling and upsetting the relationship near constantly with odd behaviors like calling at weird times and accusing you of weird things, and then switching to his alibi of claiming to want to bring out the playful side of you and thinking you're 'sexy'. Usually in a marriage gone bad there is a partner who acts inconsistently through either odd behaviors or cheating, hence why this is named the Divorce Aspect. In your case you'd obviously never make it that far with him, but he is still doing the same thing. Hot and cold, on and off. It indicates a lack of stability. I think because this guy's Uranus makes so many stress aspects to your personal planets, including Mercury, you see him as erratic and definitely unstable. You're seeing the dark side of Uranus in this guy.

Another thing that stands out is Moon square Pluto - his Pluto squaring your Moon. Do you feel he is emotionally controlling over you? Or maybe you feel like your emotions are just messed up from being around him? Pluto exerts obsessive control when it makes a harsh aspect. His Pluto seems to have a negative influence over your Moon, your heart; you might feel like you cannot emotionally tear away or maybe you are afraid to. This aspect can lead to INTENSE power struggles mostly from the Pluto person's presence... a poor psychological connection because of how dark it can get. Not a good aspect to have between two people for harmony.

So although originally you said 'synastry for stalking' I think this is better suited to be called 'synastry for bizarreness'. Yes, there is definitely a few things here that show he is obsessive but overall it's just... bizarre. He isn't really stalking you, just harassing you. I think it's a lot of intimidation and bullying, which is shown here, and a lot of his weird attitudes oppressing your emotional stability and love nature. You have NO Idea what this guy is about in love... nothing about his love nature makes sense to you, and it even freaks you out. He doesn't seem like the type of guy who would come and attack you or threaten you in order for you two to get together - I'd think that would be more represented by harsh Venus-Pluto aspects coupled with other negative aspects in the chart. Venus-Pluto can also indicate stalking.

So... what do you think about this? We can communicate more about it!

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"Perfect love casts out fear."
-Anthony de Mello

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geea
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posted April 18, 2012 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you so much sweet-scorpion
yes, harassment is the proper word, sorry my mothertongue is not english. Your interpretation makes very much sense. I understand his way of loving but i don't share it. He wants passion and fighting to show his feelings. I agree until some point.All his actions are studied and he really thinks i don't see the show he has been putting on. I studied his chart a little bit and i saw it's his mars in leo.
I also noticed our moons are opposed and u know what they say about the opposites. Yes i admit i've felt attraction, but it faded when i got to know him better. He doesn't intimidate me, it's just bothering that he still plays these childish games.
It's true about that moon-pluto aspect. I too have my moon square pluto and it's not easy. He was always telling me i was too cold % he hoped i would open up to him eventually, to express my feelings through words and kept pushing and pushing and he ended up making me furious. So when he saw me like that said "where is the girl from before?i want her back"
At the beggining kept saying "let's live the moment" so typical 4 a gemini, but when i told him i still am not available and he knew what he was getting into he just got angry and accused me for being heartless. Well, i did live the moment like you said,right? I mean that's what you wanted. I know geminis too well to fall for their games
About the aspect of venus quincunx uranus, wow, i never understood quincunxes.
What i've read in our synastry, the most negative aspect was his venus opposed my uranus,saturn,neptune. In his chart there are already lots of oppositions, so like you said, it's not a good relationship of any kind, even if i cared for him a lot.


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