posted May 15, 2012 09:06 PM            

I am trying to learn tarot on my own, and I have some doubts about the reading I did for myself two days ago. I found this spread that has a "lessons\signs" position, and I wanted to know what I have to learn with this situation. I would really appreciate your inputs.

My question was about my relationship with guy who is a professional contact, and who is married and is a foreigner. I've never been interested in him and we have never flirted. Yes, he is good looking and it is difficult to control my wandering eyes when he is around. I feel happy before, during and after I meet him - he makes my day. Recently I realized it is because he gives me this vibe of joy and well being, like I feel good with him because he feels good when he is with me (but who knows, this is the sensation I have). He is always polite, gives me his full attention, takes into consideration everything I say. Also there is some energy exchange going on when we are apart (he works for another organisation). A side effect is that I often cannot concentrate during my meetings with him. Anyway, seeing that I was getting more enthusiastic about it than I should, that I always get attracted to people who dont really want me, and that I need to concentrate in work meetings, I turned to the tarot for help !

Couple of weeks ago:
What is the nature of the relationship we are suppose to have ? = magician + 2 cups

I read: superficial, relationship of equals, perhaps some emotional identification

Some days ago:
How does he see me ? = justice + 9 cups

I read: someone who he considers a counterpart in the same level he is, who is probably emotional and may exude loneliness, or that brings the spirit of contentment

Reading - couple of days ago:

Present = star ? (I dont get it)

My world = 6 pentacles (yes, I would like to give and to receive, but it is not possible)

His world = justice (ok, he is married, and I am just somebody from work)

nature of issues = 9 wands (I am attached to the fantasy of him ?, or the issue means the trouble the whole thing is)

obstacle = 4 pentacles (it is a work situation and our interactions are mostly about work, so no space for "giving", and\or I havent learnt with past experiences)

lesson \ sign = hermit (the tarot cannot give me the complete answer, get to know myself better so I overcome this pattern some day :-) , so I know what I am doing now

hopes,fears,desires = 6 wands (I wish to indulge in success, I run the risk of indulging in too much fantasy)

his hopes, fears, desires = hierophant (he is married, he conforms to the work context)

challenges = 2 swords (stagnation, the challenge for me is to face the situation, and my inner problems (hermit), to find balance between the attraction and impossibility)

posted May 15, 2012 09:15 PM            

I dont mean to come across as judgemental, but i had to say it.

Ok now to the cards....

The hermit cards is calling a time out. Its telling you to think. Think long and hard my dear because once you choose your action you cannot take it back.

2 of swords tells you that its your choice. You are choosing to be blind and go with your emotions...

The chariot means that you must push thru your awkening feelings for this man.

The cards you pulled for him all are Trying to remind you of the most important fact, he is married.

The heirophant is the most obvious as he is tradition.
His message is go with the tried and true.

posted May 15, 2012 09:30 PM            

Thank you for your clarifications on the reading, they give me a more exact understanding. It is good, a very clear message !

I think I dont have feelings for him, as I dont know him.

It took me some time to realize I feel attracted to him somehow. And I have felt some energy connection, and I do not intend to do anything about it - I mean I do not intend to pursue any of this, like I wrote in my post.

Sometimes I feel this kind of energy connection with guys I barely know (like in this case) and I came to the conclusion it is probably only me being tuned in with that kind of vibe, which belongs to the other person. When I have started at least flirting or dating the person I believe there is a reason for that to happen. I realized I end up spending my own energy with this kind of thing, more than I would like to, and it just doesn't make any sense.

posted May 15, 2012 09:44 PM            

Your inner hope in wish is what this man represents. In tarot for you that would be the nine of pentacles.

Your world and obstacles

6 and 4 of pentacles is reinforcing your star card disguised as the nine of pentacles...

You want it all. You want to be the supermom/wife. Work, have the kids and be home by 5 and supper ready by 6pm.

4 of pents as an obstacle can also indicate that you cannot control everything or every little outcome. Let go a little. Stop wanting it so much or thinking too much.

posted May 15, 2012 10:18 PM            

two days ago I also asked for advice, what should I do in relation to my attraction to him, and I got the 9 of Pentacles - that you mentioned it in your reply, but I did not understand why though.

So I took this advice as be content with your life and all that fulfills it, as it is.

posted May 15, 2012 10:25 PM            

Commitment and not wanting other people say outside of work/friends/family to depend on you on a much deeper level is also a phobia. To have never desired it is another thing...

6 of pents is about power. Power to who you give too... Who you bestow attention/genororisty towards.

Your lessn is to figure out what you define a love relationship and its boundaries.

Is love a free for all open relationship kimda thing

Or exclusive one on one monogamy.

Does that evolve to marriage or just a live in.

posted May 15, 2012 10:54 PM            

so... a long way to go in learning tarot :-)

you know, in theory I understand how someone can love two people at the same time, and how an open relationship can work, for example. But you are right, in my real life I would not be able to manage this stuff !

The 9 of pentacles lesson you explained to me is something I thought was clear for me... one-one, exclusive, live in.
Weird. I have to think, now. Perhaps it is too difficult for me to accept it when it won't happen, when I fall in love with the wrong person. I will contemplate 9 of pentacles.

posted May 16, 2012 03:23 AM            

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Originally posted by flowerpower:
Hi Everyone

Present = star ? (I dont get it)

You feel hopeful

My world = 6 pentacles (yes, I would like to give and to receive, but it is not possible)

You're willing to give your all, but won't receive the same and feel it's unfair in a way

His world = justice (ok, he is married, and I am just somebody from work)
He follows the law and is aware of Karma, karmic ties, responsibility and fairness. "Following the law".

nature of issues = 9 wands (I am attached to the fantasy of him ?, or the issue means the trouble the whole thing is)
You feel stuck somewhat hurt. Wanting to "fight" for this even though you know its wrong

obstacle = 4 pentacles (it is a work situation and our interactions are mostly about work, so no space for "giving", and\or I havent learnt with past experiences)

His stable and grounded life will not allow him to open up to you in a way you wish him to

lesson \ sign = hermit (the tarot cannot give me the complete answer, get to know myself better so I overcome this pattern some day :-) , so I know what I am doing now

You need to look within you for the right answers. The hermit usually holds a lattern to me it's telling you to keep your distance romantic wise and to "search" for love elsewhere. Be wise and make wise choices

hopes,fears,desires = 6 wands (I wish to indulge in success, I run the risk of indulging in too much fantasy)

You hope to capture his attention and attract him..to have an affair even though he is married

his hopes, fears, desires = hierophant (he is married, he conforms to the work context)
His hope and desires is to remain married and follow the rules. His fear is putting his marriage in jeopardy

challenges = 2 swords (stagnation, the challenge for me is to face the situation, and my inner problems (hermit), to find balance between the attraction and impossibility)
Not seeing or being open to the truth of the matter, confusion between actions and thoughts "my heart says yes my mind says no"

outcome = chariot (the same balance ? some kind of conflict ? conflict with myself ? what kind of positive outcome could it be ? I manage to let it go ?

you will be able to overcome this succesfully

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posted May 16, 2012 08:17 AM            

I suppose hopefulness and hoping to capture his attention is an involuntary, automatic response when we get attracted to somebody. It is true. But it is all just inside me.

And regarding the 6 of pentacles, I feel being attracted to him is unfair to me !
I was not looking for it, and I want it to stop and be in peace, but I confess I allowed myself to have a few imaginary moments of "what if it wasn't messy and something could happen" before activating my avoiding him mode. Anyway I am not taking any actions towards it, and I am very concerned about not doing anything foolish.

I have to put my attention in other things and other people. I have so much work to do, I will ok.

Would you have anything to add to the 9 of pentacles advice ?

posted May 16, 2012 08:39 PM            

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Originally posted by flowerpower:
Hi Junethird,

so... a long way to go in learning tarot :-)

you know, in theory I understand how someone can love two people at the same time, and how an open relationship can work, for example. But you are right, in my real life I would not be able to manage this stuff !

The 9 of pentacles lesson you explained to me is something I thought was clear for me... one-one, exclusive, live in.
Weird. I have to think, now. Perhaps it is too difficult for me to accept it when it won't happen, when I fall in love with the wrong person. I will contemplate 9 of pentacles.

Thanks a lot !!! I feel more focused now in relation to this stuff with this guy ! Next, I should tackle the phobia or whatever it is...

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Ok... So with that clear.

Your fear is what attracts unavailable. Subconsciously making your fear into reality.

You want the love, but you fear loosing it so its easier to attract complicated energy.

That is why you are attracted to this man. You admire commitment, wife/husband kids. You long for that.... But his cards are telling you, reminding you what commitment is... By his cards showing up as tradition, that he values his marriage.

You could also fear that commitment once made can easily be led astray... But the cards are telling you thru him, that is not always the case.

I hope it makes sense.

But in combination to all the cards you mentioned. Your sar card is represented by the 9 of pents. That what you want, hope, desire. but you fear it or fear loosing it its a constant struggle.

I pulled out all the cards you mentioned in front of me and thats what i got.

The chariot is good. Your goodwill, will let you push thru this test

posted May 17, 2012 09:55 PM            

Thank you for your help interpreting the cards, and helping me understand where the problem lies !

I think I am beginning to be more in control of the "situation" :-) (and imagination) now, these last couple of days have been a bit easier.

Your latest observations make total sense to me. I just remembered before this started I had spent a difficult couple of weeks with repetitive thoughts about my limitations in forging relationships because of my personality, and how I can not have faith or be really optimistic about future relationships. I will try to continue my work on this.

posted May 17, 2012 10:08 PM            

i am glad i could help in a small way.