posted May 17, 2012 08:02 PM            

This is highly upsetting to me. I have no idea really what makes people who are very emotionally or even mentally unbalanced too intrigued with me. Guys often come on FAR too strong too quickly to be normal; in a lot of cases, it's been obsessive and I was afraid they were going to end up stalking me. (One guy actually did, but through text, e-mail and other platforms. I had to change my phone number.) Here is my chart below for a reference.

I'm usually very keen on reading my own chart but I got nothin' this time. I guess it's all the Scorpio? But that seems too obvious to me.

And any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

posted May 22, 2012 06:50 AM            

It's interesting, your placements are quite similar to mine! I have a Virgo Moon conjunct Chiron, sextile Venus/Jupiter and square ASC, too! Not in the same signs but still. I'm a bit older.

So, about your attracting stalkers/obsessive people, I think it's your Mars in the 8th, anaretic degree, opposite Neptune/Uranus and trine Pluto. *Plus* all your Scorpio, naturally! You probably have a very mysterious, sexy, alluring and intriguing vibe!

Also, the fact that your Chiron is so strong makes me think that these people may be attracted to you subconsciously because you exude a healing vibe, maybe they feel like you have something that they desperately need? You know how some people kind of have a soothing vibe, well maybe that's what's going on, on top of the physical attraction.

Oh, you're a Fire void too! Well, you have a Sag ASC so that's something! Mine is in Gem.

Can I ask you, how the Cancer Mars plays out for you? I know some people who have it and they seem so calm! Almost passive, like I wouldn't expect them to make the first move. Are you more action-oriented with the Pluto trine?

We have some good connections, by the way! Your Venus/Jupiter/NN fall on my Sun and your Mars trines mine exactly. =)

posted May 22, 2012 01:12 PM            

We can see that your 5H of lovers & sex is in Aries, a fire sign.
Mars, it's ruler, is in the 8H of obsession,stalkers,etc at 29 degrees.

29 degree of any sign is a karmic degree. Planets on this degree experience restlessness to get out of the current sign & move into the next. In this chart, the need is much more because Mars is in it's fall in Cancer, the reason why you attract messed up men.

posted May 22, 2012 01:34 PM            

Also, what are some of your Eros MPs? My Eros is part of my Scorpio stellium (Moon-Merc-Ura-'Mars' - out-of-sign conj) which adds fuel to the fire.

Other MPs to check are Neptune/Mars, Neptune/Pluto (I think, but I need to double check) and Part of Obsession.

Quindeciles are naturally inclined to obsession, too. When we have them, we also attract the same. I'll look over your chart again and see what jumps out at me.

posted May 23, 2012 04:48 PM            

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So, about your attracting stalkers/obsessive people, I think it's your Mars in the 8th, anaretic degree, opposite Neptune/Uranus and trine Pluto. *Plus* all your Scorpio, naturally! You probably have a very mysterious, sexy, alluring and intriguing vibe!

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I was beginning to think that too. I knew my 8H Mars could probably contribute, since beautiful women who were seen as alluring had this placement - like Ms. Monroe, although hers was in Pisces of course, the sign of sweet illusions, so fitting! - and it seems 8H Mars can make one very attractive to others yet insecure in their ability to attract at times.

Haha, thank you for the boost of self-confidence! I think I do have a tendency to come off as a little 'dark' yet intriguing. I find people tend to notice me A LOT. And I'm not saying that in vanity or in arrogance either. It can be both nice but also very claustrophobic and uncomfortable. People really tend to notice me... especially guys. I think it's from the Scorpio too. Especially my ASC ruler being so closely conjunct Venus in Scorpio. Does having that make me seem more like a Scorpio rising do you think?

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Also, the fact that your Chiron is so strong makes me think that these people may be attracted to you subconsciously because you exude a healing vibe, maybe they feel like you have something that they desperately need? You know how some people kind of have a soothing vibe, well maybe that's what's going on, on top of the physical attraction.

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That is a great insight. I never even thought of my heavy Chiron influence affecting me in this way, but it makes a lot of sense somehow! 8'0 I think you're possibly right. It seems like people who are in need of some kind of healing really connect with me. I have a great ability to empathize too... maybe I am projecting something subconsciously to men that shows I am one who could heal them. I have Moon trine Uranus and Neptune, which as you said, makes the Mars opposition. So maybe I exude that healing vibe, yet I myself don't really feel comfortable with it? I'm kind of confused about how the opposition to Uranus and Neptune from my Mars works in my instance, like why it makes me more attractive to men.

I should also note Lilith makes a trine to my Uranus and Neptune as well, plus an opposition to Venus... so maybe that intensities things even more??

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Oh, you're a Fire void too! Well, you have a Sag ASC so that's something! Mine is in Gem.

Can I ask you, how the Cancer Mars plays out for you? I know some people who have it and they seem so calm! Almost passive, like I wouldn't expect them to make the first move. Are you more action-oriented with the Pluto trine?

We have some good connections, by the way! Your Venus/Jupiter/NN fall on my Sun and your Mars trines mine exactly. =)

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Yeah, I feel like I have a double-dose of fire on my ASC... the fixed star Antares conjunct my ASC and then Sagittarius being in the 2nd decan of Aries. I feel that my strong fire ASC, minus the squares, since it also sextiles my Sun, can easily hide the cooler, moodier side of myself... until I can't deal with the facade anymore. But I am GREAT at masquerading as a fiery person a lot.

Hmm... Cancer Mars is weird for me personally since it ended up in the critical 29 degrees. I think I have a tendency to seem like a cheetah. Cool, beautiful and calm from a distance, and not nearly as openly aggressive as a lioness. But then when the time comes to fight, I FIGHT BACK and strike so swiftly and intensely, either verbally or physically, that it really shocks people. Other aspects in my chart show I have an explosive temper when my buttons are pressed. I just really let go... but at the same time I do not consider myself at all passive-aggressive. I can be pretty 'tough' to other people. You can sense the darker edge to my personality like 'don't press me too far' vibe when you know me for a little while. I find Cancer Mars is weird for me, just don't know how it fits in with who I am. I personally identify more with Leo Mars. :-/

So yeah, I would say I am far more action-oriented due to the jump start of energy and dark intensity that Pluto gives this usually 'passive' Mars sign. I'm into a lot of physical activities that are a little outside the norm for a female in society's eyes too, like going to shooting ranges. I find I am most powerful when administering a weapon or preparing to defend myself or another person. When I get into that 'mode' I just really seem to surprise people. They don't really see that in me immediately, such a strong will and ability to defend and attack. I love shocking people a little when I say I am an artist/writer, but 2nd choice career would be martial arts trainer or assassin. No joke, seriously.

And wow, that is cool Doux! How did you figure that out? I love positive Mars connections, and Venus-Sun connections are a personal favorite too.

posted May 23, 2012 05:19 PM            

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Originally posted by depth:
Your chart has no fire planets. You compensate this lack of fire by attracting men with a lot of fire in their charts.

We can see that your 5H of lovers & sex is in Aries, a fire sign.
Mars, it's ruler, is in the 8H of obsession,stalkers,etc at 29 degrees.

29 degree of any sign is a karmic degree. Planets on this degree experience restlessness to get out of the current sign & move into the next. In this chart, the need is much more because Mars is in it's fall in Cancer, the reason why you attract messed up men.

Mars trines Pluto(12H), the natural representative of obsessive stalkers.

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That is weird Depth... and so true, about the fire void and attracting fire people. I just recently a guy very obsessed with me, I mean weirdly obsessed - I talked about it on the Libra Moon thread that has come up recently - was a Sagittarius Sun with Libra Moon. Maybe that's why it was even more possessive and inappropriate than usual???

I wonder if all people with elemental voids are drawn to/attract people with that element.

I feel like I am in serious trouble due to this Mars. I feel that like you said, I do NOT cope well with the Cancer sign of nurturance in this action planet... Pluto only kicks up that degree of restlessness I feel. Though I do not immediately act like it and look like it, I am extremely aggressive when I want to be, physically and verbally. I am a tough girl. I have no qualms in admitting it, I had a lifestyle that lead me to be this way at my core. But moodiness and conflicting outside relationships makes it harder to assert this.

What scares me so much is that I am afraid one day I will end up getting stalked physically... I almost feel it in my bones, so the saying goes. And I have a terrible fear of being murdered by someone obsessed with me! It sounds ridiculous I know, but I feel that almost everything about the Mars placement points to this... maybe. What do you think? (Please say no! But even then, I still feel a little weird about it...)

What leads me to believe the stalking/murdering thing is that I am in the process of trying to become well known for my work. I worry in the future, let's say, 10-15 years from now, someone insane will try to come find me and get me. Like all the other guys, but this time, worse. Since people will really know who I am, and it will be hard to avoid being tracked down. LOL insane right? But I do have a habit of thinking that far ahead. Maybe it's the Pluto paranoia? :S

posted May 23, 2012 05:22 PM            

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
What they said. It's the Scorpio and, to a degree, lacking a balance with Fire. (My Mars is 0* Sag, and I tend to attract them like crazy).

Also, what are some of your Eros MPs? My Eros is part of my Scorpio stellium (Moon-Merc-Ura-'Mars' - out-of-sign conj) which adds fuel to the fire.

Other MPs to check are Neptune/Mars, Neptune/Pluto (I think, but I need to double check) and Part of Obsession.

Quindeciles are naturally inclined to obsession, too. When we have them, we also attract the same. I'll look over your chart again and see what jumps out at me.

-A.

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I'm not actually sure about the Eros MPs. I'm not into doing a lot with asteroids, you know? It would be cool to learn more but I am not sure how to actually.

Thank you for offering to look at my chart for me. I appreciate it. The quindecile sounds quite interesting... I feel I could actually have one with Sun-Saturn, what do you think? Maybe? Or would that have ended up being quincunx if the two had aspected each other at my birth to begin with?

posted May 23, 2012 07:39 PM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
That is weird Depth... and so true, about the fire void and attracting fire people. I just recently a guy very obsessed with me, I mean weirdly obsessed - I talked about it on the Libra Moon thread that has come up recently - was a Sagittarius Sun with Libra Moon. Maybe that's why it was even more possessive and inappropriate than usual???

I wonder if all people with elemental voids are drawn to/attract people with that element.

I feel like I am in serious trouble due to this Mars. I feel that like you said, I do NOT cope well with the Cancer sign of nurturance in this action planet... Pluto only kicks up that degree of restlessness I feel. Though I do not immediately act like it and look like it, I am extremely aggressive when I want to be, physically and verbally. I am a tough girl. I have no qualms in admitting it, I had a lifestyle that lead me to be this way at my core. But moodiness and conflicting outside relationships makes it harder to assert this.

What scares me so much is that I am afraid one day I will end up getting stalked physically... I almost feel it in my bones, so the saying goes. And I have a terrible fear of being murdered by someone obsessed with me! It sounds ridiculous I know, but I feel that almost everything about the Mars placement points to this... maybe. What do you think? (Please say no! But even then, I still feel a little weird about it...)

What leads me to believe the stalking/murdering thing is that I am in the process of trying to become well known for my work. I worry in the future, let's say, 10-15 years from now, someone insane will try to come find me and get me. Like all the other guys, but this time, worse. Since people will really know who I am, and it will be hard to avoid being tracked down. LOL insane right? But I do have a habit of thinking that far ahead. Maybe it's the Pluto paranoia? :S

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My Saturn in Aquarius is an air singleton which explains why 90% of my friends are either Aquarians with a prominent Pluto or Scorpios with a prominent Uranus. The rest have charts with heavy Uranian/Plutonian signature. One among them is a Leo whose Sun falls in my 7th. My Saturn opp his Sun & Pluto squares the two forming a t-square. We always joke around saying we'd marry each other if we found noone else.

Your Sun is unaspected. How do you feel about it? My Jupiter is unaspected & I don't really understand how it manifests in real life. My Sagittarian Sun/Merc/Venus/Mars/NNode do nothing but add to the confusion.

I don't know if you're destined to die at the hands of a stalker. LOLZ! But I do know that famous people have body guards, security guards, etc. So while appointing your men, make sure they don't have anything in Libra, Sagittarius & Scorpio. Even better, appoint straight female guards. O_o
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Astrologically speaking, your Mercury/Pluto midpoint = Jupiter. Mercury/Pluto(in Scorpio that too) is obsession & Jupiter is exaggeration. Now, that's where all these thoughts stem from. You don't have to pay attention to these people who have no better work. You don't bark back at dogs. Let them admire you from a distance & you bask in their admiration.

posted May 23, 2012 10:15 PM            

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Originally posted by depth:
My Saturn in Aquarius is an air singleton which explains why 90% of my friends are either Aquarians with a prominent Pluto or Scorpios with a prominent Uranus. The rest have charts with heavy Uranian/Plutonian signature. One among them is a Leo whose Sun falls in my 7th. My Saturn opp his Sun & Pluto squares the two forming a t-square. We always joke around saying we'd marry each other if we found noone else.

Your Sun is unaspected. How do you feel about it? My Jupiter is unaspected & I don't really understand how it manifests in real life. My Sagittarian Sun/Merc/Venus/Mars/NNode do nothing but add to the confusion.

I don't know if you're destined to die at the hands of a stalker. LOLZ! But I do know that famous people have body guards, security guards, etc. So while appointing your men, make sure they don't have anything in Libra, Sagittarius & Scorpio. Even better, appoint straight female guards. O_o
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Astrologically speaking, your Mercury/Pluto midpoint = Jupiter. Mercury/Pluto(in Scorpio that too) is obsession & Jupiter is exaggeration. Now, that's where all these thoughts stem from. You don't have to pay attention to these people who have no better work. You don't bark back at dogs. Let them admire you from a distance & you bask in their admiration.

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My Sun, un-aspected/peregrine, is also my Singleton planet, the only planet I have in Air. Maybe since it is peregrine it doesn't have a large influence over who I tend to like. I actually find I DISlike Libran people, I don't get along well with extremely Venusian people. I often have a hard time with a lot of Taurus women and Libra Moons give me the creeps in men...

I find that my peregrine Sun in the 10th shows that I am extremely strong, and highly unique in the career I am per suing compared to my upbringing and what it should have done to me. I didn't have a strong father figure and I was like my own authority growing up. Saturn Rx accentuates this. I feel that I am the maker of my own destiny and many bright things will come in my future, through my own two hands. I am extremely determined from this Sun placement. I am much stronger, willful and more powerful than most women and just people in general I know. Rather than giving me a lack of identity, I find this Sun placement makes me even MORE aware of what I must accomplish in the world.

So it seems peregrine planets really have a free range and a tendency to dominate the chart as this subtle, shining gem. Transits and progressions will help move things along. The best AND worst qualities of this un-aspected planet will very easily manifest since it gets zero stability or a helping hand, but no malevolence from any planet either. So you could just as easily have an extremely beneficial Jupiterian nature, but then the worse traits could come out leaving you exaggerating, blowing things out of proportion, doing things in excess, having negative luck, etc. etc...

For me, the best-worst of the peregrine Sun is everyone can become enchanted and fascinated by who I am, like a crowd intrigued by a very unique performer; but if I become too arrogant and self-assured the crowd starts to thin and soon I am left totally alone. This is just a metaphoric example but it serves the purpose to explain what it's like.

Highly trained female body guards seems awesome, and for some reason safer to me. Maybe it's my 11th house Venus. Says I'll get helping hands from a lot of women in my life.

posted May 24, 2012 04:24 AM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
That's a cool coincidence Doux! I am glad to see another person here with Moon conjunct Chiron in Virgo. I read in one astrology book once that having Chiron in Virgo is not as common as having it in other signs, so it's always nice to connect with someone who has this also. And it's funny you have the ASC square too!

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Yes, I know right!
Virgo Moons are pretty rare, too.
I think you're a very good example of one, you sound so smart and helpful! :')

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Yeah, I feel like I have a double-dose of fire on my ASC... the fixed star Antares conjunct my ASC and then Sagittarius being in the 2nd decan of Aries. I feel that my strong fire ASC, minus the squares, since it also sextiles my Sun, can easily hide the cooler, moodier side of myself... until I can't deal with the facade anymore. But I am GREAT at masquerading as a fiery person a lot.

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Yes, you do seem firey to me! Which is awesome. I don't have anything in fire, except for my NN in Sag.

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Hmm... Cancer Mars is weird for me personally since it ended up in the critical 29 degrees. I think I have a tendency to seem like a cheetah. Cool, beautiful and calm from a distance, and not nearly as openly aggressive as a lioness. But then when the time comes to fight, I FIGHT BACK and strike so swiftly and intensely, either verbally or physically, that it really shocks people. Other aspects in my chart show I have an explosive temper when my buttons are pressed. I just really let go... but at the same time I do not consider myself at all passive-aggressive. I can be pretty 'tough' to other people. You can sense the darker edge to my personality like 'don't press me too far' vibe when you know me for a little while. I find Cancer Mars is weird for me, just don't know how it fits in with who I am. I personally identify more with Leo Mars. :-/

So yeah, I would say I am far more action-oriented due to the jump start of energy and dark intensity that Pluto gives this usually 'passive' Mars sign. I'm into a lot of physical activities that are a little outside the norm for a female in society's eyes too, like going to shooting ranges. I find I am most powerful when administering a weapon or preparing to defend myself or another person. When I get into that 'mode' I just really seem to surprise people. They don't really see that in me immediately, such a strong will and ability to defend and attack. I love shocking people a little when I say I am an artist/writer, but 2nd choice career would be martial arts trainer or assassin. No joke, seriously.

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That sounds a lot like Cancer Mars to me! The need for (self-)defense, protection. I think the fact that your progressed Mars is in Leo (right?) may be the reason, also. And of course, the trine to Pluto helps tremendously! It's no light stuff with Pluto.

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And wow, that is cool Doux! How did you figure that out? I love positive Mars connections, and Venus-Sun connections are a personal favorite too.

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Haha well my Sun is at 16° Scorp.
I know someone who was born a few days later than you, with Mars in Leo and I think they kinda had a crush on me! But the feeling wasn't mutual.. We had Sun/Venus conjunct DW ! And my stellium fell in their 7th/8th, but theirs in my 6th Anyway, that's a random story for you!

Oh, and about stalkers killing you, hun, don't you worry about this! I mean, even if it happens (God forbid), I don't think you'll be able to prevent it. So, why not just enjoy life and get the best out of it and not get worried about "what ifs"! I think your Virgo Moon actually plays a role in this! I am a worrier myself, with terrible hypochondriac tendencies.

But anyway, your Mars isn't part of a difficult configuration, it's not part of a T-square and the opposition to Uranus/Neptune is wide. It is not afflicted by Pluto or Saturn, and even though it's in the 8th (supposedly the house of death), it doesn't have to mean that you'll have a violent death! No worries darlin'. =)

Wait.. I think you asked something about your ASC ruler conjuncting Scorpio Venus and if it gave you a Scorpio vibe.
Hmm.. well, yes, definitely, but it's a modified Scorpio vibe in the sense that, it conjuncts Venus, so you have a more "refined", harmonious and "venusian" appearance. What do you look like?

For example, my ASC ruler conjuncts the Sun in Scorp and I have red hair! And not at all dark features, I have light skin and light brown eyes. I don't think I look intense because I'm too nervous (Gem!) but inside I'm allll depth and intensity.

Oh, and about projecting stuff on other people, definitely! But I think other people project *their* stuff on you, too.
And Lilith probably amplifies that, yes.
So you're kind of a savior figure to them! haha.

posted May 28, 2012 12:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Haha well my Sun is at 16° Scorp.
I know someone who was born a few days later than you, with Mars in Leo and I think they kinda had a crush on me! But the feeling wasn't mutual.. We had Sun/Venus conjunct DW ! And my stellium fell in their 7th/8th, but theirs in my 6th Anyway, that's a random story for you!

Oh, and about stalkers killing you, hun, don't you worry about this! I mean, even if it happens (God forbid), I don't think you'll be able to prevent it. So, why not just enjoy life and get the best out of it and not get worried about "what ifs"! I think your Virgo Moon actually plays a role in this! I am a worrier myself, with terrible hypochondriac tendencies.

But anyway, your Mars isn't part of a difficult configuration, it's not part of a T-square and the opposition to Uranus/Neptune is wide. It is not afflicted by Pluto or Saturn, and even though it's in the 8th (supposedly the house of death), it doesn't have to mean that you'll have a violent death! No worries darlin'. =)

Wait.. I think you asked something about your ASC ruler conjuncting Scorpio Venus and if it gave you a Scorpio vibe.
Hmm.. well, yes, definitely, but it's a modified Scorpio vibe in the sense that, it conjuncts Venus, so you have a more "refined", harmonious and "venusian" appearance. What do you look like?

For example, my ASC ruler conjuncts the Sun in Scorp and I have red hair! And not at all dark features, I have light skin and light brown eyes. I don't think I look intense because I'm too nervous (Gem!) but inside I'm allll depth and intensity.

Oh, and about projecting stuff on other people, definitely! But I think other people project *their* stuff on you, too.
And Lilith probably amplifies that, yes.
So you're kind of a savior figure to them! haha.

And don't be shy girl, there's nothing wrong with accepting the fact that you have an alluring vibe and that people are attracted to it. Own it!

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Right... I know it is not entirely preventable. I know things like that can be beyond my control. But I do know at least now, that I can prepare myself for such happenings as BEST I can. At least I will not be naive, unaware or mistakingly trusting of people in intimate situations since I know there is a chance of strange people trying to get close to me often especially obsessive people. It makes me almost very sad though that this is this way. Yet my Mars is sextile my MC, leading me to believe that these obsessive overtones will be useful in my career - meaning if I work hard enough, some people/fans will become obsessed with me. LOL that sounds terrible but I am interpreting it in a totally straight forward way. I'm not narcissistic at all but I feel that at least could be good for boosting popularity or money.... and if not obsessive fans I guess a helpful partner who could boost my social standing, since 8H is about shared resources and intimate relationships??

That's good to hear. You're right, I'm sure it could have been worse for my Mars. I'm glad to hear the opposition is wide too!

As for looks, I'll describe in a straight forward way:

I have huge dark eyes. Best feature of my face. Looks great and very noticeable in photos + every day life. I have a tendency to have 'huge crack eyes' LOL It's a joke people make about how I look bizarre when I stare at people since my pupils are naturally larger than normal. But besides that I find my eyes very attractive and unique looking. There's a fiery look to them. When I did that thread here on guessing the moon sign based on your eyes only, a lot of people guessed me as a Fire moon. X'D How funny! I'm a Virgo moon.

I'm pretty tall compared to the rest of my family. I am almost 5'7 and most women in my family are 5'3 or shorter.

I have a heart-shaped face and a slightly large forehead, not weird looking just looks better when I have bangs versus no bangs. I can wear the baby bangs and look cute. :3

I have very soft, fine skin... burns pretty easily. Very pale, like the lightest shade of foundation possible if you can imagine it. Also where I differ from family, they all have more olive-yellowish tan skin and I get the 'vampiress' jokes a lot.

I have narrow shoulders and an hour glass-esque shape but I carry my weight well, except I have extremely dimpled elbows and knees which give me the illusion of being heavy! :S

I look best with dark brown/black hair, and I can wear intense make ups like dark red lipstick and the smokey eyeshadow without looking like a hooker (or Taylor Momsen. Haha).

I think this a pretty good mix of Jupiter + Venus in Scorp actually! What do you think? Sorry if I went overboard!

posted May 28, 2012 02:59 AM            

Incidentally, you look like you might have your Venus-Mars MP on your Sun or Moon. Do you?

posted May 28, 2012 11:15 AM            

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Wow. We have a very similar look, sweet-scorpion. (Except, I'm 5'3, heh.) Honestly, DON'T do the dark lipstick. That's how you'll avoid looking like a vampire. Trust me. I go Sixties, (dark, heavier lined eyes and pale, glossy / shimmery lips) and I always get compliments.

Incidentally, you look like you might have your Venus-Mars MP on your Sun or Moon. Do you?

-A.

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That's cool Indigo! And I honestly think it's fine being "short". I think petite women are just as beautiful as tall women in RL and in modeling!

That's true. I usually have to tone it down a little when I use red lipstick. I can feel a bit uncomfortable wearing it sometimes since it makes my lips look like a huge mass on my otherwise light face, haha. I try to use purples and light reds over deep, dark maroons with black undertones.

I love that natural beauty look you're describing too! It reminds me of Angelina Jolie's make up style. I like how in many of her best natural photos and photo shoots her make up is not very heavy (or at least, it was this way in the 90s).

posted May 29, 2012 04:51 AM            

I absolutely love pale skin and dark hair on people. And big eyes? Oh my! *melts*

Oh, and about the midpoints, on astro.com in the extended chart selection, Pullen/Astrolog, Aspect/Midpoint grid chart -> tada! Gives you the midpoints between planets.

I think your Venus/Mars MP is somewhere around 22° Virgo, so not far away from your Moon indeed!

posted May 30, 2012 10:49 AM            

You truly understand the deeper nature of your peers and Chiron has it's healing effect on their deeper wounds (ie, issues connected to the influence of these outer planets). Desperate people will follow you to access that healing force, but since they are driven by Neptune, the lines for appropriateness become blurred. Plus, Capricorn just doesn't quit.

The fact that you have Saturn in the 3H means that you speak the language of Capricorn especially well, adding to your ability to reach that inner Cap energy, articulate, organize the muddled thoughts of others.

These people are probably profoundly grateful to you...they just have a funny way of showing it!

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
sweet-scorpion, it sounds like you're very beautiful!

I absolutely love pale skin and dark hair on people. And big eyes? Oh my! *melts*

Oh, and about the midpoints, on astro.com in the extended chart selection, Pullen/Astrolog, Aspect/Midpoint grid chart -> tada! Gives you the midpoints between planets.

I think your Venus/Mars MP is somewhere around 22° Virgo, so not far away from your Moon indeed!

Not sure what it means though..

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Thank you Doux! That was so sweet of you. I'm very flattered. And please don't melt too much Lol

I guess it is very close to my Moon then - less than 3 degrees away. 8'0

I just looked things up about this and found intriguing info. The conjunction of my V-M midpoint on my Moon and Chiron, especially Chiron is what seems to make people seek me out in relationships for deep spirituality, emotions and/or healing... since this midpoint is about your sexuality, romantic nature and drive. I seek healing in love, and more often I heal other people deeply - or wound them severely even when not intending to, the dark side of Chiron here - when I love them romantically or platonically.

It's all making sense now... why I attract people who desperately feel they need me. I feel so enlightened. 8'D It almost makes me sad though, knowing my love nature can have a deeper and sometimes disturbing effect on people. This is a good lesson for me... reminds me I need to be less callous sometimes because these kind of people I am closest to will probably be seeking nurturing or healing, or just deep comforts and bonds with me.

posted May 30, 2012 04:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Your moon-Chiron trine generational Uranus-Neptune in Capricorn.

You truly understand the deeper nature of your peers and Chiron has it's healing effect on their deeper wounds (ie, issues connected to the influence of these outer planets). Desperate people will follow you to access that healing force, but since they are driven by Neptune, the lines for appropriateness become blurred. Plus, Capricorn just doesn't quit.

The fact that you have Saturn in the 3H means that you speak the language of Capricorn especially well, adding to your ability to reach that inner Cap energy, articulate, organize the muddled thoughts of others.

These people are probably profoundly grateful to you...they just have a funny way of showing it!

And second decan Libras usually do have people beating down their doors anyway. Social graces are in high demand.

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These are really awesome insights! Thanks for giving me these Faith.

It makes me happy to know I have something more positive to take from having H3 Saturn. You really hit the nail on the head for me in the positive aspect of this placement. Since childhood I have been more logical, clearheaded and sound in judgement than even my own parents... my strong authoritative voice gives me immediate notice in the classroom and professional arena, and at home too. But not always to my benefit, I can really make people wary or even mad at me by my strong speaking ability, never backing down in the highly intellectual things I say. I have been accused of trying to 'rule' over others with my words but I find I have a natural authority in the things I say, and the way I speak and write shows how intelligent I am... I am beyond controlling it. It is just natural to me, but it makes me an incredibly good writer. So I guess we shouldn't always shun our Saturn, huh? :'D

posted October 30, 2020 02:15 AM            

Hope you're well ♡