posted May 21, 2012 04:19 PM            

Jupiter's next aspect is a conjunction to mercury/algol. Mercury is the lord of the derived 7th/10th of doctors & treatment. Mercury is in Saturn's term & face & lack's dignity. The treatment's good(being dry & cold) but could take time.

Moon's next aspect is a square to a malefic Mars without reception.
Mars could mean an internal rupture, inflammation, blockage...
Virgo is the digestive system, the abdomen.
Mars also rules surgeons & the house of self-undoing.
The Moon translates it's influence to Venus(the illness).
Pluto in the turned 1st, moon's governship of the 8H bring issues of trauma....

posted May 22, 2012 04:24 AM            

I do not understand what Saturn has to do with him in the chart though, as it is not a significator for him.

posted May 22, 2012 05:00 AM            

But according to Lilly, "If Saturn be in the ascendant, especially retrograde, the matter of that question seldom or never comes to good."

posted May 22, 2012 09:35 AM            

As for this chart, Depth has given you a wonderful analysis here! Saturn in the 1st can make the chart unreadable because your mental state is clouding the judgement of the matter. For now it is hard to say, because Saturn is retro, Venus his health significator is retro. He as Jupiter is also combusted, although luckily the Sun changed signs so it is not as bad as in the same sign. He might go to surgery - that was my thought too, as Depth suggested, because of the applying sq Moon is making to Mars in Virgo. Could be colonoscopy too, I think, since it is invasive even though not cutting per se. It seems like there will be a procedure being done in the following week (most likely 3 days from now).
The fact that Pluto is in his house, retro, could suggest the main cause is hidden from view and the symptoms might be altered (the condition is not presenting as textbook description). It could also mean there might be a tumor or a genetic condition (esp with the sq with Uranus in his 4th H).

It looks pretty unclear right now. More tests should be done and some conditions excluded before making a decision.

posted May 22, 2012 10:05 AM            

Yes, as of now, it is planned that he should undergo a rectoscopy in the middle of next week.
But of course as we know nothing, things could change in the meantime.

Let`s hope it is neither a tumor nor MS.
The brain scan should at least give certaintly about the latter I think.

He`s feeling quite good today, and has been yesterday as well after the bloodpressure was stabilized.
It`s only after having eating icecream (and yoghurt on sunday) that he was complaining about pain in his stomache.

We would all GLADLY accept it if he had lactose intolerance, but we can`t be sure about that. Which is why he has to undergo all these tests.
And we are fretting not just the result of the recoscopy (of course we do ), but the process itself.

As you said it, everything`s unclear.

Speaking of the intercepted Moon in my horary - do you think it will prevent me from going?
I have to do an exam with two pupils the week after that, which I am pretty afraid of, but I thought the Moon in its exaltation would not be a nasty thing?

posted May 22, 2012 05:37 PM            

So far, well, the brain scan was okay as well, and the neurologist said that most probably he is really suffering from depression (considering all else), which actually would fit, like my mum today quoted someone saying: "How can children be jolly, if their mom is always sad?"

We`ve never really been clinically diagnosed (except for my mom in a certain phase of her life), but we are (genetically) prone (or through life experiences?) to at least a light form of depression. Her father had it as well.
Though in his and my mom`s case it has to do with life experiences.

But nevertheless the hospital made an appointment for a colonoscopy next week. I think that is the last thing left to check. Everything else was okay.

posted May 23, 2012 01:11 PM            

Anyway, the reading. I did a Celtic Cross for your question and drew the following cards:

Present situation/Main concern: The Sun Obstacles/Problems: The World
Crown position: The Fool
Past: 9 of Wands
Present: Hermit
Future: 2 of Cups
You/Your attitude: High priestess
Environment/External factors: 5 of Swords
Hopes/Wishes: 10 of Cups
Outcome: Judgement

I got a good impression with this reading and I think help will come soon. I interpreted the 2 of Cups like that - possible help coming. Alongside with the Fool, it might be someone who thinks outside the textbooks and the situation who has more clarity on the matter and could come up with the right solution/diagnosis. That was my impression. Perhaps one of his doctors. I think overall his health is good, his body is strong with the Sun there. Sun is vitality and with the World I got the impression he does have it and this was just a scare and not something very serious. The scare however was quite serious for you and I know you and your family were very worried, from the 5 of Swords but that might not be helpful for him right now. I think overall this experience will bring you closer as a family. I know you are already quite close but it will break certain barriers, I think. It will bring certain realizations to the front - like the depression thing, which could be a very valid issue. With the Judgement card as outcome, I think he will recover fully and be in good health very soon.

posted May 23, 2012 01:48 PM            

As a matter of fact I was thinking that the horary maybe, at least to a part, was indicating MY feelings of fear and concern around the situation, maybe more than the actual situation.

Anyway, he is home again now, and he doesn`t complain about pain in his stomach anymore.
I think part of it might have been the shock of the treatment he had experienced two weeks ago when he was in hospital and forced to get a katheter, which proved to be a very painful experience.
I was thinking that maybe he stored it in his "pain-memory".

He did have another drop in bloodpressure this morning, and I think that is something he needs treatment for. Some medicaments to raise his bloodpressure so lower one will not drop under 50 anymore.

I also started feeling better about the situation yesterday. I can`t explain it, but both times when he was getting sick, I was in school and of course did not know anything, but suddenly started feeling "strange". Queasy in the pit of my stomach, and a wave of sadness and feelings of alarm washing over me. Out of the nothing; it turned out that I felt this "emotional attack" at the exact point he has his "episodes".

"I got very sad and tears were forming. I don't know if that came from me or from you, since I felt that I tuned in quite well with you and my mind went blank when I did it."
Probably you cried the tears I didn`t.

I think though you are right, he reflects emotions that are barely under the surface in the family, and they come out in increased strength for him.
He also never processed the stroke and death of my grandpa many years ago. It was at that time that his personality was changing so much.
it was a shock for all of us, and to be honest I donīt think I have processed it either.
Everytime something happens, this feeling of that night is coming up again.
And of course for my mum it must be even worse, as she lost her mom when she was 17 years old (my grandma was only 36 years old). She also witnessed her brother drown and die. She was with him,b ut couldn`t help him, as she was barely 3 or 4 years herself.
I think this episode resurrected these old emotional ghosts; and one thing that makes me sure of it is, the fact that I dreamed of my oldest friend last night. I haven`t seen her in years.
Well, she moved away, when her boyfriend died in a motorcycle crash, not even 25 years old.

I think neither of these losses were ever really processed, but then I donīt know how it can ever be done?
This worry must be some kind of "old war wounds" for all of us.
And it is true my mom has always been a worrier, always feeling responsible for everything and everyone, and this fear of loss must have been transferred through the genetic code.
I am actually serious.

It`s this attitude that has to be corrected. And not just for my middle brother.
It is important for my Mom, my youngest brother, me, my aunt and even my Dad (though he is not as prone).
Actually my Mom made me laugh yesterday when she said that I was the "happiest" and "jolliest" of us all.
lol

Just saying this to tell you, that I agree with you, we need to stop worrying so much and analyzing every little thing in a negative way.

The reading sounded very positive.
I like that and I have even been convinced before reading it that this is how it is.

posted May 23, 2012 02:26 PM            

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As a matter of fact I was thinking that the horary maybe, at least to a part, was indicating MY feelings of fear and concern around the situation, maybe more than the actual situation.

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Yup, that is the effect of Saturn in the 1st and why some astrologers consider such charts unreadable.

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I can`t explain it, but both times when he was getting sick, I was in school and of course did not know anything, but suddenly started feeling "strange". Queasy in the pit of my stomach, and a wave of sadness and feelings of alarm washing over me. Out of the nothing; it turned out that I felt this "emotional attack" at the exact point he has his "episodes".

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"I got very sad and tears were forming. I don't know if that came from me or from you, since I felt that I tuned in quite well with you and my mind went blank when I did it."
Probably you cried the tears I didn`t.

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I think neither of these losses were ever really processed, but then I donīt know how it can ever be done?
This worry must be some kind of "old war wounds" for all of us.
And it is true my mom has always been a worrier, always feeling responsible for everything and everyone, and this fear of loss must have been transferred through the genetic code.
I am actually serious.

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Actually my Mom made me laugh yesterday when she said that I was the "happiest" and "jolliest" of us all.

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posted May 23, 2012 11:58 PM            

thank you, but I don`t want any more interpretations on this horary.
It probably was not even readable to begin with, with Saturn rx in 1st house. I will take that into account more strongly from now on.

posted May 24, 2012 09:02 AM            

thanks a lot again.

Well, today it turned out that he`s got an infection in his arm (because of the drip in the hospital), but all in all he is feeling much better even despite that infection.

Now let`s not talk about me, it`s too hot here and with all the exhausting things going on, my circulatory system must be a little bit disturbed.
Nothing I can`t manage. As a matter of fact my mom actually fed me a homeopathic medicine, which tasted nasty, and it was so sharp and stinging that I could feel my presure rise just because of the bad taste. lol

On the Moon in my horary

I reread the sections on the Moon in horary in Frawley, Louis and van Slooten.

They all give the Moon as co-significator to the querent, especially as indicating the querent`s "emotional frame of mind".
Additionally they all say that Moonīs aspects (esp. the first applying aspect) is important in terms of the course the event will take.

Now, as we already stated Moon is making a conjunction to my own significator, and is ruler of the 10th house.
I was wondering if that might mean that I might be emotionally preoccupied with things, having to do with my profession/ job, and that it really is up to me if I will see him or not (if I decide to stay home I of course might not see him.).

The fact that Moon is at the end of the 8th house seems to point into the direction as well; at least it could very well indicate my "anxiety" around that question.

posted May 24, 2012 03:26 PM            

Anyway, yes, let`s stick with your initial interpretation and just say there will be some upheaval before, which makes me reconsider my decision to go, but in the end Iīll go there anyway.

Edit:
Funnily there is one person who is always Saturn in whatever horary chart I do, and always pops up to prohibit. So it fits the pattern. lol

posted May 24, 2012 03:53 PM            

And it just struck me that the prohibiting planets are so powerful in that chart.
Both in the sign of their exaltation. Odd.
Saturn is also on Spica, though I donīt know if that is still a positive with it being malefic planet and retrograde.

posted May 24, 2012 04:58 PM            

Yes, you are right.
But it`s not only that convention. It just falls into such a stressful period at school, with two afternoons of working out rules for giving marks coming up the week after that (we have to do that, cause somewhen soon there will people from the government coming there to check our school - they do it with all schools. WE do not know yet when this will be, but it is a source of pressure to me).
And then there are my two pupils, for whom I ahve to prepare the oral exam in Latin, with the third judge coming from a different school, unknown to me and us, and their written exam were quite lacking. I did my best to give them fair marks, being nice to them, but will have to hand in these exams, and probably will get a scolding for having been "too nice".

And all of that comes onto the pile of the usual schoolwork, and I am simply completely stressed out about thi
Additionally I have been fighting health problems (and mood-swings) for almost 2 months, and when I started feeling better, I learned that a colleague of mine I like very much (we spent the holidays together two years ago) had a total operation because of breast cancer, and simultaneously my brother`s ailments.

It just adds up, you know. EVerything on its own is easily possible to manage, but I feel a tiny little bit overburdened, though most of it is of course my own worrisome nature.

Or maybe the fact that Tr Pluto is squaring my natal Pluto on the MC, conjunct my Venus and Tr Uranus is sitting on IC, opposing my Pluto and squaring my Venus?
(though it already has passed over IC).

posted May 25, 2012 01:55 PM            

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It just adds up, you know. EVerything on its own is easily possible to manage, but I feel a tiny little bit overburdened, though most of it is of course my own worrisome nature.

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I understand. That is nasty when it happens, everything piling up on you. Which is why I think you should also allow yourself to enjoy some fun activities and go to events you really want to go to, to just relax and enjoy your time. Without the reading, I say go. Allow yourself to experience that yummy awesomeness and perky witt that is him!

posted May 25, 2012 02:06 PM            

GO! lol