posted June 04, 2012 11:43 AM            

So...

I met my soulmate. I know it. I feel it. I've known his name ever since I was a child, I've even had dreams about him before ever meeting him. Amoung other things. And every time I look into his eyes, it's a confirmation. I just want someone to read our charts and interpret them for me since, even though I've been studying astrology since I was eight, nine years doesn't give much in experience and I'm not very sure of my own interpretations.

So whoever is up to the task, thanks in advance. Really. It's a huge favor.

Either put it up here or send it to my e-mail ( whichever is more convenient.)

Thanks again!

Here are the links:

Synastry chart -
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_61gw_01_03_grea_trew_yt_o.56087.2754.gif&res=100&va=&cid=amkfileVBFQlS-u1338427967

Composite (plus natals) -

http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_671gw_01_03_grea_trew_yt_o.56321.18379.gif&res=100&va=&cid=amkfileVBFQlS-u1338427967

Davison -

http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_64gw_01_03_grea_trew_yt_o.56553.34124.gif&res=100&va=&cid=amkfileVBFQlS-u1338427967

First meeting -

http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_2gw_04_mar_vista.56434.26049.gif&res=100&va=&cid=amkfileVBFQlS-u1338427967

posted June 04, 2012 12:23 PM            

moving this to Personal Readings

posted June 04, 2012 02:25 PM            

I'm in Venice, BTW. (Hence the, uh, location thingummer.)

I can still read everything, I just wanted you to know I'm not getting anything I'd expect for / from TFs. Also, you're very young for a relationship with your TF. You may meet, yes, but a relationship wouldn't happen for a decade or more.

posted June 05, 2012 12:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Spellmaster257:
... if I may ask, what is it that you didn't see in the charts?

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I'd be happy to, but the images of your charts have expired.

-A.

posted June 05, 2012 03:10 PM            

Synastry:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_61gw_01_03_grea_trew_yt_o_hp.68022.24895.gif&res=100&va=&cid=amkfileVBFQlS-u1338427967

Synastry(2):

http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=amkfileVBFQlS-u1338427967&lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=1&nho2=3&btyp=61&mth=gw&sday=5&smon=6&syr=2012&hsy=0&zod=&orbp=&rs=0&add=18&add=19&add=20&add=22& add=12&add=13&add=14&add=15&node=-Yn&ast=433%2C+16

(I included two synastry charts this time just in case you wanted everything included. A more 'retailer's chart I guess)

Composite:

http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_671gw_01_03_grea_trew_yt_o_hp.68363.49163.gif&res=100&va=&cid=amkfileVBFQlS-u1338427967

Composite(2):

http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=amkfileVBFQlS-u1338427967&lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=1&nho2=3&btyp=671&mth=gw&sday=5&smon=6&syr=2012&hsy=0&zod=&orbp=&rs=0&add=18&add=19&add=20&add=22 &add=12&add=13&add=14&add=15&node=-Yn&ast=433%2C+16

(Same here )

Davison:

http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=amkfileVBFQlS-u1338427967&lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=1&nho2=3&btyp=64&mth=gw&sday=5&smon=6&syr=2012&hsy=0&zod=&orbp=&rs=0&add=18&add=19&add=20&add=22& add=12&add=13&add=14&add=15&node=-Yn&ast=433%2C+16

First Meeting:

http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=amkfileVBFQlS-u1338427967&lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=4&nho2=3&btyp=2&mth=gw&sday=5&smon=6&syr=2012&hsy=0&zod=&orbp=&rs=0&add=18&add=19&add=20&add=22&a dd=12&add=13&add=14&add=15&node=-Yn&asp=1&ast=433%2C+16

First Meeting(2):

http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=amkfileVBFQlS-u1338427967&lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=4&nho2=3&btyp=2&mth=gw&sday=5&smon=6&syr=2012&hsy=0&zod=&orbp=&rs=0&add=18&add=19&add=20&add=22&a dd=12&add=13&add=14&add=15&node=-Yn&ast=433%2C+16

(And here!)

Thank you again. This is a huge favor!

posted June 05, 2012 06:36 PM            

That particular week would have been significant for him, but not so much for you, oddly enough - as the NNode was transiting his Sun. When Nodes hit the Sun, there's usually a location change, or some shift in perspective, overall routine. I'd expect that philosophy or religion might play a role, with Sagittarius being the sign of transit. In general, yes, the people he met that week would prove to be later beneficial to him - likely financially, and regarding his career.

I'm going to add that because he's a natal Sun/Psyche, the next hit would be Psyche just a few degrees later, possibly the same week, maybe a bit longer. This seems more what you're feeling, as it, to me, indicates a soul-contract. I'm just going to theorise (I'll have to research it later) that Node-Psyche transits should indicate when we meet those with whom we have outstanding soul-contracts. NNode is infinitely more positive than SNode, however, so it doesn't seem like there's major karma to be balanced or some great debt. In any case, it should be assisting him with something he's supposed to do - largely tied into his identity, career, and calling.

I'm going to further the spiritual context here given the placement of the composite Neptune (21 Sagittarius). Points that aspect closely from the composite to the natals are what's most felt by the individuals which comprise it. Since C-Neptune hits his Sun, your interaction would be very spiritually tinged. Another indication of the soul-contract.

Here's the rub, and where I was explaining why the charts didn't immediately strike me as twinflames. If you look at his natal chart, THAT's what you typically see of a twinflame composite. There's a massive conjunction involving not only personal points, but outer points, and some significant asteroids. There's also an overwhelming indication of outstanding karma, and, curiously, a 'singleton' nodal axis.

I found the Eros-Psyche conjunction in your composite definitely curious; it just might be hitting his Psyche, but 6 degrees is too wide for me when I'm working with soul bonds. Those that demand our attention will typically appear very close, as if they're screaming for your action. So while his Eros would be mildly activated by the Psyche, maybe, it just continues the 'soul contract' theme.

Saturn, Sun, and Venus, however, DO hit your Eros (I consider a slightly wider orb for planet-to-asteroid, rather than asteroid-to-asteroid) which explains why you were affected on such a deep level (Eros), and consider it very karmic and fated (Saturn). It left you with a warm and affectionate feeling, as I'd expect, being that you relate deeply (Eros) to the Sun-Venus.

Someone commented on 'Pluto conjunct Moon' in the composite, but I really can't count that, being it's almost 10*. That's not what you're feeling.

Curiously, nobody's really feeling the Moon here. The only one feeling the Sun is you, via Eros; he MIGHT be, through his Chiron. It's pretty wide (6*). The C-Neptune is quintiling both the Sun and the Moon, which, personally, I find quite lovely. What's upsetting to me is that nobody really seems to be feeling that beautiful, creative, inspiring, ethereal energy but you, and in a very deep, soulful way.

Whatever you did, or to whomever you introduced him, or wherever he went - THAT part seems rather fated, given the strength of the NNode-Sun/Psyche. But your composite is full of quincunxes - constant need for adjustment, a basic incompatibility of energies requiring work and compromise. I can imagine this sort of composite for those who have some sort of soul contract which needed to be (or was) fulfilled; but even companion souls are more bonded, or have better flowing energy than what I'm seeing here, which is just ... not making much contact.

One of the closest aspects here is actually a quindecile of the Moon and your Psyche. This tells me of the dangerous potential for you to obsess (given the nature of the quindecile) over this contract, (Psyche) and whether or not it was fulfilled, or what have you, since the Moon is the emotion of the composite. Unfortunately, nothing's bringing it out. You feel the potential of it, with your Venus being RIGHT there conjunct the AntiVertex, and are stressing yourself out over the fact that you DO have control over this, as the AVX is the 'free-will' portion of the axis.

You feel the tremendous fated potential (VX-Moon) of your interaction, or the possible relationship that could result, and I DO understand how frustrating that it. But it's like the horse. There's -potential- for you BOTH to feel it, with your Moons trining each other's, and sextiling the C-Moon's. Your Mars opposite the composite Pluto, for example, trining his Sun. The more you obsess, the worse it's just going to get as nothing happens. As far as I can see it, nothing really will, or can, until something hits that C-Vertex @ 18* Libra.

That might be the Sun, (late October) or when Saturn crosses that point again. 8 years seems like overshooting it; however, the SNode will cross his Sun/Psyche again about a decade from now (March 2021). I don't see anything else significant about that time from the transits alone. The progressed charts might tell a different story.

In short, I do feel that whatever you did or said, or however you directed him, will prove significant to him, and was the result of a soul contract made long ago. But to further expect more of this, I feel, would be a waste of your time and energy. It had its place, and I do feel things happened as they should.

Now it's time to relax, be glad for what you've done, and keep on moving forward.

posted June 05, 2012 06:41 PM            

It's a Pdf file though and I'm using a kindle so I'm gonna just paste the links to charts again- I checked, and the d and D's are at the bottom for sure

I hope this doesn't complicate anything. It's the only way I can post them though :/

Me:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_2gw_01_grea_trew_hp.81019.23081.gif&res=100&va=&cid=amkfileVBFQlS-u1338427967

He:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_2gw_03_yt_o_hp.81101.29579.gif&res=100&va=&cid=amkfileVBFQlS-u1338427967

Composite:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_621gw_01_03_grea_trew_yt_o_hp.81332.14646.gif&res=100&va=&cid=amkfileVBFQlS-u1338427967

Davison:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_64gw_01_03_grea_trew_yt_o_hp.81425.22591.gif&res=100&va=&cid=amkfileVBFQlS-u1338427967

posted June 05, 2012 06:59 PM            

Well, anyway, like I said. We're both in different places now. I SHOULD just get on with my life.

posted June 05, 2012 08:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Spellmaster257:
Wow. That was incredibly enlightening. A lot of the things you said were dead-on (my emotions especially)
...I feared that the waste of time and energy thing might of been true. I just...well, you know how it is. Praying against the inevitable.

Well, anyway, like I said. We're both in different places now. I SHOULD just get on with my life.

In the meantime, thanks for the interpretation. I really appreciate the energy spent doing this.

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I'm glad that I could help. I hate being the 'bearer of bad news', so to speak, but, since you're still learning, (hell, we're ALL still learning; astrology is truly a life-long study, and I'm glad you understand that) I felt it was important to give you a thorough understanding of how I've learnt that composites should be read.

You really can have the most lovely composite known to man, and unless it's hitting significant points in both natals, it's just that; like a beautiful work of art. You can admire it for its abstract beauty, but it has no practical value.

If the composite were more of a splay, with scattered energies hitting each of your significant placements - the luminaries, Venus, Mars, and so on - I'd consider it to be the potential for a companion soul. Twinflames will always be very, very tightly bonded to each other - and it's immediately visible. The links will be very close, too - within a degree or two.

The tricky part is what's being activated and where. For example, in my composite, our Moon's in 29* Scorpio. Since my Moon's 24*, and his is 04* Sag, I invariably thought that I 'feel' and 'express' the Moon more. But this is where the intricacies of the chart tell the full story.

We both express Mercury (on my Mars, and his Moon), but he kinda has Uranus, as it's 5* Sag. Sure, my Mars hits it within 4 degrees, it's closer to his Moon. I wondered what was up with that, but then thought of how erratically he expresses his emotions to me. Oh, they're there all right, but very sudden and fleeting. He's just not an emotional guy, so the fact that he expresses them to me at all is indicated by this particular link. But what does that have with the Moon? Here's where it gets interesting. The secret lies in the declination. But first, a word on how important it is for the composite Sun and Moon (especially Moon) to be making significant aspects (conjunctions, preferably) to both natals.

See, the Moon's RIGHT on my Sun; it's no wonder. This relationship is of huge importance to me, and my emotions are wrapped up tightly in it. His are, too, to an extent; again, the Sun hits his Moon, but it's not OMGTHERE like mine. I'm not a chaser, though. The fact that he kept going out of his way to maintain a relationship with me showed me that he must be feeling it, too. Somehow, his emotions are invested in this as well. But how? The Moon? Eh. Sure, it's just weak (by my standards; I do nitpick). The Sun/Moon MP? It hits his Moon, definitely, but again, not to my satisfaction.

Then I checked the declinations.

Moon, Mercury, and Uranus are ALL in parallel. Holy mackerel! THAT'll sure do it. So, his emotions (Moon) are expressed (Mercury) erratically (Uranus) because the placement of Uranus falls right on his Moon, thereby, he feels it the most. Whereas that composite Moon on MY natal Moon is close enough for me to feel it pretty constantly. Curiously, I don't express my emotions with him very easily, either. (But that's something else).

Attraction will also show immediately in a composite - especially if it's on a soul-level, too. Like you saw in yours, expect Psyche to be involved. But, again, expect Psyche (and Eros) to be hitting BOTH natals. Here, he expresses the composite Neptune, as it hits his natal Sun. We have a very deep spiritual bond, and are ridiculously telepathic with each other. Aside from it being conjunct his Sun, it exactly sextiles his Mars-Psyche, and trines my Psyche.

But we were talking attraction. Since Neptune's what he expresses pretty constantly, and what he feels most significantly (conjunct his Sun) anything that affects Neptune will colour that. And Eros is not only closely conjunct (less than a degree) but EXACTLY parallel. Exactly. We both felt it instantly. Within 2 minutes of meeting, we were bantering like mad - and still do, on occasion, when we can't help ourselves. It's like this CONSTANT underlying thing. Our on-screen chemistry is just ... insane ... because of it. -laugh- The fact that Mars trines my ASC and conjoins his is just support of that; I think it's the Eros, personally, but Mars helps.

Since Venus is conjunct and closely parallel the Sun, I'm always feeling the more affectionate stuff. He, on the other hand, is always feeling our attraction - which IS on a soul-level, so, hey, can't complain. The Neptune-Eros is also in a tight trine with Psyche.

The Neptune-Eros-Moon is ALSO parallel our NNode. Another indicator of the soul-level attraction.

I'm not sure how to interpret our 12H Saturn-Lust-Pluto, all parallel as well as closely conjunct. Normally, I'd think Saturn might stifle Lust, but, in this case, I think it just gives it longevity. Heh. We're talking 6+ years here, and it's just as 'bad' as the day we met.

I think that gives a pretty basic understanding of what to expect. Twinflames have deeply bonded composites, or what they call 'very highly concentrated' with lots of karmic things. For example, our Karma-Destinn is exactly conjunct and parallel over our ASC, loosely conjunct the Jupiter-Sun-Venus. (Although the Jupiter's exactly parallel the Sun, which indicates why we always feel so energised and just overall 'good' whenever we talk. Even in the 12H, Jupiter still has this overwhelming 'good vibes' feel.

And, just to make everyone go, 'OMG, Astrology is SO AWESOME!' we met for the purpose of a long-since defunct RPG now being developed (by us, of course) into a TV series all about soulmates - specifically twinflames - who watched the fall of their civilisation and must now find each other before our own civilisation falls prey to the same dangerous collective forces. Just in time for 2012.

That project is called 'LACHESIS', and our Lachesis is exactly contraparellel our Karma-Destinn and right on our Vertex conjunct (and parallel!) our Descendant.

How's THAT for astrology?

posted June 06, 2012 06:31 AM            

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See, the Moon's RIGHT on my Sun; it's no wonder. This relationship is of huge importance to me, and my emotions are wrapped up tightly in it. His are, too, to an extent; again, the Sun hits his Moon, but it's not OMGTHERE like mine. I'm not a chaser, though. The fact that he kept going out of his way to maintain a relationship with me showed me that he must be feeling it, too. Somehow, his emotions are invested in this as well. But how? The Moon? Eh. Sure, it's just weak (by my standards; I do nitpick). The Sun/Moon MP? It hits his Moon, definitely, but again, not to my satisfaction.

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Interesting. I had this with my ex.
The composite Sun in very tight orb conjunct his natal Moon (and my MC) and.. well exactly as you say; kept going out of his way etc. but I know now *finally*.. LOVE will always be there and that's a safe place to be! *..*relief..*