posted July 12, 2012 09:14 PM            

The King of Cups shows that he will open up to you about his feelings. You guys will cover past hurts and talk about a possible new relationship.

posted July 12, 2012 09:21 PM            

I hope that you do find happiness with him or you meet someone that sweeps you off your feet if he doesn't wake up soon! Sending positive energy your way and keep me updated!

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Originally posted by Junethird:
I agree sounds pretty on point and a good first step

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posted July 12, 2012 09:55 PM            

The death card rx. I agree.

posted July 12, 2012 10:07 PM            

That's from the professionals. More than one source so it really influences the death and the 10 of Cups (being the end of a happy relationship). I don't know where you get your interpretation from, but to each their own

Your interpretation just doesn't fit, especially with the other two cards, which majorly influence the reading. You need to be able to weave a story using all 3 cards, not just one card. Death reversed and Hanged Man reversed have the same meaning here, not letting go, fear of letting go, not accepting change..the 10 of Cups being in the middle influences and tells you what he's not letting go of..a happy relationship that has ended.

No offense, but I've read a lot and studied Tarot for years. The Hanged Man reversed means not letting go..the opposite of the upright meaning..more sources:

"3) Upsidedown: Ironically, the Hanged Man upsidedown is right-side-up. He's standing rather than suspended. There is no sacrifice, no new insight. This suggests that whatever the querent is hoping to see, achieve, or do, or perhaps needs to do, they cannot do. If we follow the mantra of "no pain, no gain" then the querent is not willing to suffer the pain--or not able to suffer the pain...and so there is no gain."

"The Hanged Man upright is about new perspectives, sacrifices, vulnerablity and selflessness. It is about a time of suspension that, when over, brings with it new insights. Reversed....

1) Opposite: as the Hanged Man card usually involves sacrifice and insight, the inverse would be a refusal to surrender what needs to be surrendered, or see things from a new perspective. In this regard, the reversed card is the assertion of the ego, stubborness, selfishness. The querent is clinging to who and what they are, all that they have, refusing to give it up even though the exchange could transform them and help others.
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posted July 12, 2012 10:18 PM            

You asked for a reading and interpretation of it. Two of the Major Arcana have a connection in this reading. They influence the other. Yes, you can read it differently, however it doesn't fit within the reading as a whole.

I never said he wasn't going to date you, I said he has a hard time letting go of a past relationship -- hey it could even be your relationship. I'm just telling you what the cards are truly saying and not being bias about it.

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Originally posted by Junethird:
Ummm.. Tarot is interpreted very differently by each individual. Not two readers will reach the same conclusion to the cards. Just because my take is different than yours does not make it wrong or right for that matter. And considering that at the end of the day iam close to the situation, i can vouch that altho the past may have a hold on him somewhere (death rx) does not stop a man from dating another woman, casually or not. Altho i want to be with a certain someone, It certainly hasnt stopped me from going out with other men lol and iam open to a new begining with a new man but still hold to hope with a past love.

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posted July 12, 2012 10:29 PM            

The question was is he in a relationship.

We agree of a hold on the past but not that he is in a relationship. I say he is. You say he isnt. Thats what i understand. Wether it was serious relationship or not or if i figured in is not what i asked either. The first question is clear cut.

Besides, the answer will soon be revealed.

posted July 12, 2012 10:36 PM            

You said:

" I still don't agree on the hanged man rx. I've always interpreted the hanged man rx as being unstuck and on the prowl."

and..

"Instead of waiting a wait and see attitude, faith. He untied himself and is loose."

You never mentioned that you said he was IN a relationship, you said he has let go of a past relationship.

I said he's not in a relationship and if he is, it's not a healthy one and he needs to let go of it, but has a hard time letting it go.

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Originally posted by Junethird:
Sorry, I still dont agree.

The question was is he in a relationship.

We agree of a hold on the past but not that he is in a relationship. I say he is. You say he isnt. Thats what i understand. Wether it was serious relationship or not or if i figured in is not what i asked either. The first question is clear cut.

Besides, the answer will soon be revealed.

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posted July 12, 2012 10:44 PM            

The only thing is that we dont agree on the hanged man rx lol.

posted July 12, 2012 10:58 PM            

We can agree to disagree. Just never knock or throw your length of experience around. Its not cool.

I accepted your interp. just choose not to agree with the hanged man rx. It happens. All readers interp certain cards/spread differently.

Just like you took LBA's answer to your question in her cartomancy thread and added your theory. Thats cool. You have inside knowledge and gut intuitoin into your situation. Its no biggie you would know best what resonates as truth in regards to your life.

posted July 12, 2012 11:07 PM            

I never knocked or threw anything around. I'm stating facts and various sources because you're telling me the hanged man here means something else, when it clearly doesn't. Especially with the other cards in the reading. The 10 of Cups being in the middle of these two not so positive cards doesn't indicate that he's in a relationship to me. And if he is in a relationship apparently doesn't look like it because the cards surrounding it aren't positive in this case.

I remember doing various readings for you before and on all of them you said "I don't know what to feel" instead of giving me an honest feedback. That's all I received for more than one reading. It's okay for you to say no , etc, etc not just "I don't know how to feel about this reading" especially when I was right. I remember one of them being before your birthday and letting you know it wasn't wise to go after this guy and after you came back my reading rang true..

I just don't see this guy as a positive influence in your life, sorry but with all you've said about him I don't think the man is a good one. I'm just telling you the message of the cards you drew (I didn't draw them, so the cards can be giving YOU a message instead of answering your question).

And with the 3 of Swords being drawn twice by two different people, plus the rest of the swords drawn in both readings done..it doesn't seem like a stable or positive situation and I feel like you're going to get hurt again.

This is why I choose not to do readings for you any longer because you insist that everything is positive when this guy just doesn't seem positive at all to me.

posted July 12, 2012 11:15 PM            

i didnt ask for a lecture or personal opinion if this person is right for me or not. I asked a clear cut question thats all.

And its ok to disagree.

By stating your length of tarot and referencing interpretations from sources to back up your interpretation is throwing your expertise around.

Again. We can agree to disagree.

I have every right to my take on the hanged man rx just like you have the right to your take.

I also have the right to accept or reject your interpretation. Just like you do too.

posted July 12, 2012 11:23 PM            

Thank you for kindly making it clear your refusal to do readings for me. I wasnt previously aware of that. Thats very nice of u. I will always be open to do readings for you and everyone, regardless if they agree with my imterpretations or not.

Afterall, this is an open forum full of different people from all walks of life, from different learning, experience categories. We each offer valuable insights for each others tarot questions. Which without this forum would be quite boring.

Again freewill, gut intuition and your own personal clear cut knowledge of your situation always trumps

posted July 12, 2012 11:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
Rosalind or anyone who wants to jump in

Is he in another relationship.

Death rx
10 of cups
Hanged man rx

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Hiya june

Hmmm I had to think this one over for a bit. And in my own personal opinion, there is a possibility.

Death rx means he is clinging or refusing to let go of something from his past out of fear of change. Given the circumstances, knowing u r already seeing him and ur questioning if he's dating someone, knowing u r from his past, it looks like its YOU he isn't letting go of. Bc u weren't part of the question it was just abt him. U guys have a long history together. So he isn't cutting the strings with u yet.

And yet we c the 10 of cups. 10's r a culmination of something. This is representative of a secure relationship. Bc there is some distance at the moment between u 2, I don't c this card representing ur relationship with him. So it must b another relationship logically speaking. If I'm wrong shoot me lol I just don't think ur at this 10 right now with him.

And hanged man rx...there r a few ways of interpreting this card. My take on it is that the limbo is now reversed. For him. Not u bc u weren't part of the question. So in reading this for him, he is resetting his priorities bc he isn't stuck in limbo.

posted July 12, 2012 11:39 PM            

I too think the hanged man rx means he is... "unstuck"

posted July 13, 2012 12:39 AM            

Yes, you have all the right to "reject" my readings that I took a lot of my personal time to do for you, on more than one occasion -- trying to help you see the truth of the matter.

At least provide honest feedback, the least you can do.

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Originally posted by Junethird:
Theres no need to make personal jabs lol we all have our own personal situations which we obsess and need clarity on time and time again. Including you, dear EmpressM. It is not up to you to judge what is right for me and my life. I dont take any personal jabs at you or your questions. I have no opinion on the happenings in your life currently as it is not business or place to give one unless asked.

Thank you for kindly making it clear your refusal to do readings for me. I wasnt previously aware of that. Thats very nice of u. I will always be open to do readings for you and everyone, regardless if they agree with my imterpretations or not.

Afterall, this is an open forum full of different people from all walks of life, from different learning, experience categories. We each offer valuable insights for each others tarot questions. Which without this forum would be quite boring.

Again freewill, gut intuition and your own personal clear cut knowledge of your situation always trumps

Again thank you Empress for expressing such kind words

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posted July 13, 2012 01:00 AM            

Taking the disagreement on awhole different direction and on a personal attack. This is about the question not about what you think i should do or not do in regards to my love situation. Clearly we can agree to disagree.

Again it is always your choice to decide which post you give your time and energy to... I have stated numerous times appreciation for your efforts. Why you choose to point out your invested time and energy is beyond me.

And i did give honest feedback. We are not in a relationship. Iam sure if he is in a relationship, if he is, it will soon be very obvious lol... At this point its just speculation but i do believe he is in one. Wether its serious or not i have no clue. Regardless that wasnt my question, nor was the question wether he is in a relationship with me lol.

If i was asking about me. I would have phrased the question accordingly. Are we in a relationship or not lol

Again, i have my take on the hanged man rx and you have yours.

When i agree with your interpretations, i have let you know that i agree and when i dont agree, i do so aswell and give my reasons why.

Again empress. I have no beef with you. We can agree to disagree on the hanged man rx

posted July 13, 2012 01:12 AM            

It ****** me off..and it wasn't only once..it was 3 times.

Read back on your posts here. You said "Taking the 3 and 2 of swords..is he in a relationship right now" Why would you take the 3 and 2 of Swords from the reading that someone else gave you that you assumed was about your career when you relocate???? If it's about your career...why transfer that and ask if he was single when you said yourself the reading that Rosalind gave you was about your career...that makes no sense whatsoever. That's where the confusion is coming from.

I still say, since you drew the cards - I feel they're telling you a message in a sense. The cards we pull out aren't always accurate and don't always reflect on our situation because Tarot works mysteriously and a lot of times is trying to tell you something. That's why I don't read for myself often and don't really trust the readings I give myself most of the time..unless I get really serious about them and detach myself from the reading.

And I'm not angry over you disagreeing over the hanged man. It's about what I mentioned earlier. And honestly it's just annoying that you constantly ask the same questions about the same thing..and you get opposite answers to what happens in real life with him..

so it gets annoying after a while when you don't seem to get it..

I don't want to be rude, but seriously someone needs to tell you the truth. If you don't like what I have to say, then I apologize in advance but it doesn't make sense how someone like that can love you as a woman and not be with you, brush you off, ignore your texts...

I don't know him personally or you for that matter, and I don't really care if you don't want to hear this...but this is just not right at all...this man doesn't care about you ... actions speak louder than words.

I'm sorry if it hurts, but I rather someone hurt me with the truth than comfort me with a lie. It just gets me upset when someone that appears to be nice, caring, compassionate like yourself willingly submits herself to this type of situation. You can call me a b.., or you can call this tough love..call it what you want..but I just feel for you. Even if you don't want to hear this, I needed to get it off my chest.

Sorry again for being tactless, rude, etc..I just don't know how else to put it..

You're a nice person and I'm moody right now, but I just wanted to get this off my chest since a while back.

posted July 13, 2012 01:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
No no lol I believe u have it all wrong. No cups or wands effect have happened at all. The question was what the relocation would bring. No balance is needed in work/finances. It all good. As always the matter is love. Relocation love wise... 3 swords/2 of swords = 5 of swords. Denial of truth. Not seeing the truth. Someone is an odd man out. Not seeing the truth. Self lies.
Relocation work/finances good news with the knights. Opportunities.

Thank u for your time and energy practice makes perfect

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posted July 13, 2012 02:43 AM            

Again, this is getting a bit ridiculous lol and nothing to do with the tarot question of this thread.

As this is a public TAROT forum, one is free to ask as many repetitive questions to gain clarity. Iam not the first or the last who does so lol There is no limit. Anyone can choose to reply to the questions otheirselves choosing. If it annoys you. Then simply don't read it. Problem solved lol.

Why you continue to make a mountain out of nothing an continue to attack... I dunno lol. At this point you are being quite rude. I have continued to address you with the utmost respect and stayed on point. Which is the hanged man rx. I have not made any personal attacks on you or expressed any opinion on your own personal multitude of questions on this forum. Astrological or tarot wise.

Just like the rest of us, you have and continue to face obstacles and challenges in love with your partner. We help you to answer your asked questions and keep personal biases on what you should or should not do to ourselves. Unless of course, asked so please show the same courtesy.

You holding unto an unknown past grudge towards me, for your perceived inadequate feedbacks to your readings of many months ago is lost to me. I think that falls on you as your problem, not mine. I give back as much as I can in the moment. It's very plausible that in the moment I may have been confused with information overload and that ok. Iam human lol. Even a simple thank you for the reading should suffice.

Never demand feedback. Encourage yes. Demand no.

The old adage rings true to me now: if you can't say anything nice, don't say nothing at all.

Considering that we all lead very hectic lives, I think it is human nature to forget past readings. It's not a big deal. Life goes on lol

If you as a reader required an update a few weeks later, then all you had to do is ask. You have seen me be active on this forum, a simple 'hey June, how's it going any of my predictions manifest in your life?' holding on to a small technicality is a bit much dear empress.

It does not hurt my feelings, but I will decisions to lead my love life in my own way and choosing is for noone to judge. My life should and my decisions should in no way shape or form 'annoy' you due to the simple fact that it has nothing to do with you or your life lol. It is not your place to dictate. Please focus on your life and the choices in your situation.

posted July 13, 2012 02:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
No offence but I will stick with my opinion. And no, I am not wrong at all. I might not be an expert like you but the truth is there and i cannot deny it. You don't know yet how balanced are you finances/work because we talking about FUTURE. Something that didnt happen yet. Second, I don't understand you. First you ask for a relocation reading in general and then you say that relocation reading is love wise. You once told me to ask clear questions. Again, no offence, I may be a beginner but my I am never wrong and the cards never lie. You may know that already very well. Besr of luck!

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What will the relocation bring me love wise. True I dont know the answer to future finances and nothing is for certain. But with the knights looks good but overall Iam not too worried. Finacially its good as i got a nice raise. It's also not a new work position for me. It's a good change/transition it's been in the works for the last little while. It was he eventual outcome of my job when I accepted my current position. I'll be there in a week.

posted July 13, 2012 02:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
Again, this is getting a bit ridiculous lol and nothing to do with the tarot question of this thread.

As this is a public TAROT forum, one is free to ask as many repetitive questions to gain clarity. Iam not the first or the last who does so lol There is no limit. Anyone can choose to reply to the questions otheirselves choosing. If it annoys you. Then simply don't read it. Problem solved lol.

Why you continue to make a mountain out of nothing an continue to attack... I dunno lol. At this point you are being quite rude. I have continued to address you with the utmost respect and stayed on point. Which is the hanged man rx. I have not made any personal attacks on you or expressed any opinion on your own personal multitude of questions on this forum. Astrological or tarot wise.

Just like the rest of us, you have and continue to face obstacles and challenges in love with your partner. We help you to answer your asked questions and keep personal biases on what you should or should not do to ourselves. Unless of course, asked so please show the same courtesy.

You holding unto an unknown past grudge towards me, for your perceived inadequate feedbacks to your readings of many months ago is lost to me. I think that falls on you as your problem, not mine. I give back as much as I can in the moment. It's very plausible that in the moment I may have been confused with information overload and that ok. Iam human lol. Even a simple thank you for the reading should suffice.

Never demand feedback. Encourage yes. Demand no.

The old adage rings true to me now: if you can't say anything nice, don't say nothing at all.

Considering that we all lead very hectic lives, I think it is human nature to forget past readings. It's not a big deal. Life goes on lol

If you as a reader required an update a few weeks later, then all you had to do is ask. You have seen me be active on this forum, a simple 'hey June, how's it going any of my predictions manifest in your life?' holding on to a small technicality is a bit much dear empress.

It does not hurt my feelings, but I will decisions to lead my love life in my own way and choosing is for noone to judge. My life should and my decisions should in no way shape or form 'annoy' you due to the simple fact that it has nothing to do with you or your life lol. It is not your place to dictate. Please focus on your life and the choices in your situation.

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