posted July 20, 2012 01:36 AM            

I was wondering if anyone could give me some detailed insight into my solar return chart....

Hera was kind enough to point out to me that i have a 10H stellium SR falling in my natal first house. Which is awesome. Alot of personal growth is always a good thing...

I got a bit nervous when she also mentioned that 12H matters will be important this year... How so? Good bad?

And the rest is still a bit of a mystery to me...

posted July 20, 2012 01:49 PM            

Your SR AC in Leo. The ruler goes in SR 10th. There is a stellium of planets in the SR 10th too. And they all go into natal 1st. It seems career matters will be a focus this year. Since they all go in natal 1st, there will be a new beginning regarding your career (something fresh?) and yes a lot of personal growth this year. (the sr mc also conjuncts natal ac & career + personal growth)

But the focus will not all be career, since the SR asc goes into natal 4th. You will put a lot of energy/thoughts into 4th house matters. Your home/family/emotions.

the Sun is in an angular house, you also have a stellium there. It means that the first portion of the SR will be the busiest/most active. and the asc in Leo could mean (if not already) things should now - August - become very busy for you, probably career wise in particular?

i thought the SR Vesta conjunct natal AC + natal Vesta conjunct SR DC was interesting too. Vesta is keeper of the flame in relationships. you will keep the flame burning for a special someone even if the SR Dc shows a bit of unpredictability with Aqua DC + Neptune in SR 7th regarding love matters. However! it should be noted that traditional ruler of DC is Saturn which conjuncts natal Pluto (ruler of your natal Dc). Saturn is about commitment, meaning I think a more serious commitment could be made later this year/early next. because SR Saturn is in a cadent house, meaning it's gonna happen later.

Vertex/Pluto in 5th both good indicators for pregnancy, also transformations regarding romantic relationships. specially because SR Pluto conjuncts natal Juno(marriage partners).

as for the 12th house hmm the ruler of SR 12th is Moon which is conjunct your natal NNode. Lots of lessons again about your emotions/family life + communications (3rd house Nnode). Another sign that things will progress in this area. You may seem a bit lonely at times, but since the Moon goes in Sr 11th, natal 3rd you will be spending lots of time with friends, they will help you grow/heal. You may release a lot of hidden emotions, some hurt feelings & become more spiritual this year.

the Sr 9th cusp also conjuncts natal 12th cusp tightly. If you travel this year, you might get in touch more with your spirituality & hidden nature. Or perhaps it's your partner who might travel and get in touch with these things. (sr ruler Uranus conjunct sr 9th & your natal 12th). hmm not sure on this one though. lol

there is a lot of Ic/4th stuff going on. Even the sr IC is conjunct natal DC/Ceres. So clearly you are thinking of becoming a mother/wife very much this year.

and the sr 9th house ruler is Mars going into natal 5th. again something about travel/romance. and there is a big sr grand earth trine with Mars/Pluto/Vesta. i'm getting vibes that you after the first part of the year which is a focus on career you will later re-ignite a flame with your partner going on a vacation trip together perhaps?

ok. i hope this made some sense. lol =)

posted July 20, 2012 02:48 PM            

You are amazing woman! Lol.

I think it all resonates very true. I hardly ever ask about career, finances, family or friendships because ive never had any real hardships in any of these areas. So its nice to get comfirmation that all will continue to be well.

Iam moving/moved! My official dates were aug 1/oct 6. I will be going back and forth between two cities until the end of the year... due to having double residences at my disposal. This move has been in the works since last winter. I just wanted to wait until the summer, because Relocating to another city is a major pain in winter.

I do hope once saturn turns direct in october all will be well in love matters. My little cancer heart has had enough.

Yes ive been thinking hard and long about marriage and motherhood. Ive been very vocal this past year. So fingers crossed.

I hold a flame for my love. I really hope we take that trip. We talked about it in february and i have hope that it will do wonders for us. Anywhere in the world is an option aslong as we can be alone for a whole week uninterrupted. No ipads, cell phones, texts lol.

Other than a romantic vacay, i dont have any set plans to travel. My relocation is my main focus. Thats the biggest thing "travel wise" for him though, its another story. Very busy with goingto alot of destination bachelor parties.... Lots of weddings for him to attend. Its good tho. Seeing all his main buddies settling down and getting hitched will light a nice fire under his feet and hopefully lead him my way in a more serious way.

posted July 20, 2012 04:49 PM            

awesome! i'm glad it made some sense. now that you mention relocation, the NNode in SR 4th in the sign of Sag shows that. So does Jupiter in SR 10th indicating relocation involving work.

ok cool. maybe all the Juno stuff for the next 2 years indicates a serious commitment then (not necessarily marriage yet).

since his solar return charts so nicely tie in with your solar returns, i have no doubt great things are coming your way!

posted July 21, 2012 11:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
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Hera was kind enough to point out to me that i have a 10H stellium SR falling in my natal first house. Which is awesome. Alot of personal growth is always a good thing...

I got a bit nervous when she also mentioned that 12H matters will be important this year... How so? Good bad?

And the rest is still a bit of a mystery to me...

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I think I said that because SR 12H ruler Moon is exactly on natal NN. That seemed important. It looks like a year of a lot of inner work, when you will think deeply about what you want and how you can get it, also put your priorities in order.
Like Anchi said, it will be a great year career wise and yes also for changing residence. The IC/MC axis is emphasized especially by its alignment with natal Asc/DC and SR Asc/DC falling in the 4th and 10th houses. This seems to be the main focus of the year, along with growth and your inner work (12H). Also natal MC ruler conj SR NN.

posted July 21, 2012 11:29 PM            

Yes a steady serious long term relationship would be very nice way to lead into marriage. Laying That solid foundation during the dating time is very crucial for sustainability.

Iam a bit nervous about this whole twin thing...This next future baby... would be my fourth confirmed pregancy... Divided by 2 is a a 2... Iam not too sure if its because the thought is in my head but everywhere i turn is twins twins twins. Even my fav tv shows. Twins. Real and fictional people are having twins lol but twin boys would be a delight.

Can a chart tell you what a fourth pregnancy will bring to fruition? And can the chart also tell you if the previous 3 pregnancies were female or male?

And why do you find it interesting that i have mars in libra on the 5th?

I tried goggling but didnt get much info in regards to childbirth....

posted July 22, 2012 01:23 AM            

I was also checking out another thread indicating the number of aspects = the number of children.

How many does my natal indicate? I know, you said the possibility of twins. Ive had 3 pregnancies already. Does that count?

posted July 22, 2012 12:20 PM            

the numbers of aspects/5th house planets

Mars in Libra in 5th
Mercury trine MC
Mercury semi-sextile NNode (i'm not sure about using semi-sextile, but since yours is tight+the sign of Cancer i would count it)

so 3 possibilites, however if you have twins maybe that counts as 1 lol not sure (meaning maybe 4 possible kids)

(and no this is not for pregnancies, but kids) =)

i meant you have Mars in the house of LEO in the sign of LIBRA , and i told you that either the SR ASC when a woman gets pregnant could be the childs Sun sign or the year she gives birth the SR ASC could also be the Sun sign. so both this years SR and next SR relate to your Mars in Libra in 5th house(Leo). I thought it was interesting.

as for what Hera said, well you won't be giving birth in this SR, however next (i still think there are pregnancy possibilities for this year -Pluto in SR 5th +Vertex in particular)

and you have Saturn trine your 5th ruler Mercury in natal not square, just so you know =)

what Hera said made me think though, she had a good point. i went to check where transiting Saturn was with the dates you gave me in the other thread

1st pregnancy - Saturn was transiting through natal 5th square-ing 5th ruler.
2nd pregnancy - Saturn conjunct your natal Saturn trine natal Mercury
3rd pregnancy - Saturn again conjunct natal Saturn trine natal Mercury

since you have natal Mercury retrograde the trine could indicate obstacles/delays, especially cause the transiting Saturn was on natal Saturn reinforcing it! however the natal trine is NOT a bad thing. Saturn is on it's merry way now too!! faar away! Saturn gives obstacles, but in the end it shows reward for patience & hard work. It's things like your story that really makes it hard to give Saturn loving vibes though. ughh again I'm really sorry about your losses.

the twins ... maybe the universe is giving you signs? lol we will see also nobody was interested in this little research lol i did on twins on asteroids forum here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001171.html if you ever want to check where these asteroids land in your natal, go ahead! lol =)

oh and i read something nice on the asteroid forum about conception... asteroid DNA 55555 is active . i wonder if in the lunar return for the month you got pregnant Dna was active in your chart...

and as for the gender i really have no clue on that sorry. i've tried to look but it always ends up a guess. a boy or a girl. lol =)

posted July 22, 2012 03:36 PM            

I must add, the first pregnancy was an oops big time. Not expected. The last two were planned.

I too agree that i prolly wont give birth this year, as iam not currently preggers. I have no immediate plans on getting preggers this year either... Its up to him when we start ttc cuz if it were really up to me, would have been trying like crazy by now lol.

Fertility wise, everything is in order. Everything works like its supposed too. i dont need any medications or aid in that department. Altho it was suggested i go on some fertility drugs if nothing happens after a year... It got me thinking that maybe thats were twins might be the trigger.

I get the feeling that it would be a fraternal twin thing for me too... Its kinda funny, that back in february he mentioned how stressed out his buddy was with the birth of his twins. Again, fraternal. And I dont remember if i mentioned earlier, but my dad is a twin. Fraternal. So he has a twin sister. In the end as long as the babe is healthy i will be over the moon. Singleton, twins, triplets... Ill take them all lol.

Again thank you so much for taking the time to go over my charts and not to mention going above and beyond to look back at previous dates on past threads. I appreciate this valuable information and your positive energy vibes. Iam beyond happy and nervous for next year.

posted July 22, 2012 04:04 PM            

Thank you. Yes i understand.

From my mothers side. My grandfather was a twin. Iam not sure what his twin was as he passed very early on. And i think a distant aunt/cousin. My father and his sister are the only twins in his family.

Nothing in the immediate present. Lots of births but no twins.... I guess it Looks like Its a long overdue blessing.

About 12 years ago i was told about twins from a palm reader. I brushed it off then, and after 3 single pregnancies no twins. Honestly i dont know if my body could handle it. Being pregnant with one fetus is hard enough on your body as it is.

And my dear long time doctor advised medication to help stimulate ovulation... After birth/pregancy not everyone ovulates right away.... After my third pregancy, only 4 months apart from my second... i wanted to ttc again asap... With the precaution that two embryos would and could be fertilized at the same time, thus resulting in twins.

posted July 22, 2012 04:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
@Rosalind,

Thank you. Yes i understand.

From my mothers side. My grandfather was a twin. Iam not sure what his twin was as he passed very early on. And i think a distant aunt/cousin. My father and his sister are the only twins in his family.

Nothing in the immediate present. Lots of births but no twins.... I guess it Looks like Its a long overdue blessing.

About 12 years ago i was told about twins from a palm reader. I brushed it off then, and after 3 single pregnancies no twins. Honestly i dont know if my body could handle it. Being pregnant with one fetus is hard enough on your body as it is.

And my dear long time doctor advised medication to help stimulate ovulation... After birth/pregancy not everyone ovulates right away.... After my third pregancy, only 4 months apart from my second... i wanted to ttc again asap... With the precaution that two embryos would and could be fertilized at the same time, thus resulting in twins.

I dont need invitro, as getting pregnant is no the issue. My uterus just has no time concept or patience. It wants that baby out asap.

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posted July 22, 2012 04:32 PM            

Thank you!! I dont know how i missed your post, i hate my cellphone sometimes lol. Yes it all resonates very true. Turning 30 made my biological clock start ticking very loudly. Lol. I want my own babe. Hopefully it will happen soon.

Yes comitment is the key word. I like and need to be in a serious long term relationship... Marriage is another story... Iam actually the one that got hit with cold feet in the whole marriage thing/talks with J. Iam very surprised about that. Iam not ready for marriage this Year or next. Commitment yes. Engagement yes. Marriage better in year 3/4.

I think it all stems from being a child of divorce. Plus all the silly obstacles that he and i are facing right now. I need to know that our relationship can and will survive without marriage before committing permanantly to each other in fron of our lord, friends and family. Unless he becomes abusive, i dont believe in divorce. I take those vows very seriously to just hastily jump in, when we still have alot of work to do in our relationship. Or lack there of at the moment...

I can be a single mom, i cannot be in a loveless, unsupporting marriage.

Patiently waiting for saturn to turn direct....

quote:

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Originally posted by Hera:
I think I said that because SR 12H ruler Moon is exactly on natal NN. That seemed important. It looks like a year of a lot of inner work, when you will think deeply about what you want and how you can get it, also put your priorities in order.
Like Anchi said, it will be a great year career wise and yes also for changing residence. The IC/MC axis is emphasized especially by its alignment with natal Asc/DC and SR Asc/DC falling in the 4th and 10th houses. This seems to be the main focus of the year, along with growth and your inner work (12H). Also natal MC ruler conj SR NN.

Re marriage/relationships - for the beginning of the year it doesn't look very positive with SR Saturn on natal DC ruler Pluto, but I think things will get better once Saturn moves into your 7H in Scorpio. I think it can bring commitment. SR DC ruler Uranus is conj natal POF which suggests you will eventually be with someone and find happiness. Pluto on Juno suggests a deep need to settle down. I don't see kids this year because SR 5H ruler Jupiter is conj natal Chiron (this shows the lack of children is painful for you.. I really hear you on this one ) but it is quite likely that children will come a bit later in your life because natally you have Saturn sq 5H ruler Mercury. But the need and want for motherhood is strongly represented.

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posted July 22, 2012 04:54 PM            

how cool about the palm reader, i love stuff like that. =)

posted July 22, 2012 05:30 PM            

A year before I had my daughter 10th house Mars was transiting my 5th house and venus was a few degrees ahead in my 6th (she has mars conjunct venus less than 1 degree conjunction in 10th house natally).

My son was Venus conjunct saturn transiting my natal 5th house(in 12th house), it's funny because he has venus conjunct saturn in 12th house in his birth chart.

Jupiter conjunct Moon in 10th house transits my 5th house in 2013. That should another baby in 2014 (of course, maybe. although I do feel it's true because I want 4 kids :X).

This is cool!!

posted July 22, 2012 06:03 PM            

Thank you! Once he is ready to TTC with me, it will be an exciting time. Hopefully next year is when everything falls into place nicely for us

@ EmpressM,

posted July 22, 2012 06:18 PM            

DNA 55555 Natally: 21 cancer 45'1" (3H)

DNA 55555 SR 2012: 28 libra 26 retrograde (3H solar return falling over 6H over natal)

DNA 55555 SR 2013: 19 pisces 48 (5H solar return falling over 11H over natal)

posted July 22, 2012 06:34 PM            

Lunar return 07/ DNA. Was in 23 libra 46'1" (7H/DC Lunar return falling over natal 6H)

Lunar return 09/ DNA: 10 Leo 29 retrograde (5H lunar return falling over natal IC)

posted July 23, 2012 12:13 PM            

@ June

Dna i've seen shows potential for pregnancy, if DNA is aspecting either Jupiter or ruler of 5th.

in your case.

1.pregnancy: a large conjunct of lunar dna + natal jupiter

2.pregnancy: a sextile between lunar dna and natal 5thruler

3.pregnancy: the same as above !

so the lunar Dna is active in the month of conception (like in your case!), but the same is true for solar return dna too. (both pregnancy/birth)

2012: * conjunction of solar return DNA + natal Jupiter
* sextile between SR Jupiter + natal DNA

2013: * semi-sextile between SR Jupiter + natal DNA
* square between SR DNA + natal 5thruler

* SR DNA trine natal DNA
* SR Ceres conjunct natal DNA
* SR DNA trine natal Ceres

you have all the right DNA connections! i actually still think you might indeed get pregnant sometime in this year's SR and give birth in next.

posted July 23, 2012 12:50 PM            

Thank you! Back in february, he told me I can't get pregnant now, He isn't ready. I want this to be a mutual decision. So I hope in time He will change his mind and throw caution to he wind it's nice to have Astro confirmation that Iam ripe for the picking lol

posted July 23, 2012 01:01 PM            

no the Kleopatra and the 3 other asteroids are not for fertility, they are for the natal chart to see if you have a good chance to give birth to twins. just that. =)

you can post both their natal placements (sign/degree) + their 2013 SR placements, i can check if they will be heavily aspected next year too.

posted July 23, 2012 03:31 PM            

Natal:

216 Kleopatra: 27 Leo 43'19" (4H)
87 Sylvia: 21 Virgo 24'22" (5H)
69 Leto: 5 sagittarius 16'34" retrograde (7H)
639 Latona: 7 Gemini 31'5" (2H)

SR 2012

kleopatra: 7 capricorn 43" retrograde (5H SR over natal 9H)
Sylvia: 27 taurus 59" (MC SR over natal AC)
Leto: 26 gemini 11" (11H over natal 2H/lLatona)
Latona: 2 pisces 9" (DC SR over natal MC)

SR 2013

posted July 23, 2012 04:08 PM            

Natal:

216 Kleopatra: 27 Leo 43'19" (4H)
87 Sylvia: 21 Virgo 24'22" (5H)
69 Leto: 5 sagittarius 16'34" retrograde (7H)
639 Latona: 7 Gemini 31'5" (2H)

Lunar Returns

2007
Kleopatra: 0 capricorn 17" (9H LUNAR RETURN over natal 8H)
Sylvia: 23 scorpio 4" (6H LUNAR RETURN over natal 5H/Sylvia)
Leto: 1 leo 14"retrograde (5H LUNAR RETURN over natal 3H)
Latona: 24 pisces 12" (12H LUNAR RETURN over natal 11H)

2010:
Kleopatra: 0 scorpio 14' (DC LUNAR RETURN over natal 6H)
Sylvia: 13 aquarius 31' (11H LUNAR RETURN over natal MC)
Leto: 28 capricorn 34' (MC LUNAR RETURN over natal 9H)
Latona: 14 scorpio 18' (DC LUNAR RETURN over natal DC/leto)