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GirlinSeattle
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posted July 22, 2012 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GirlinSeattle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all,

I am pretty much an amateur when it comes to reading a synastry chart, so I am hoping all of you experts could give me some input!

I would like to know if there are any indications in this synastry chart between an ex-lover and me is a karmic relationship. Is there anything that stands out that would bring us together?

He and I remain friends to this day, even though we did not speak to each other for 2 years after we split up. It is weird because the connection that he and I have is unlike anything I have experienced. We seem to pick up conversation smoothly, as if nothing had happened or we didn't take a break from each other. He tells me that he considers me one of his best friends, and I would very much consider him one of mine even though we are in a strange, platonic situation right now.

I have studied the chart and noticed certain aspects. I see that my Jupiter conjuncts his NN in the 7th house. His moon in my 7th house close to my DC. His Chiron also conjuncts my Midheaven. While these are nice aspects, I see many more difficult ones and it doesn't explain to me why or how come we have come together again as friends.

Thank you so much for any input/readings.

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GirlinSeattle
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posted July 22, 2012 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GirlinSeattle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any takers?

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peachbeigeblue
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posted July 22, 2012 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What degrees are the virgos sun and reds vertex

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Sorcha
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posted July 22, 2012 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GirlinSeattle,

You seem to have found some of the major karmic aspects already. I can't tell how close the orb is, but (I think you are on the outside wheel?) it looks as if his Venus conjuncts your South Node. If that's the case, then that usually signifies having been lovers in a past life and is certainly karmic. This is a lifetime to balance any outstanding karma that the two of you share from that life and since you are the SN it may be up to you to do it.

Also, you both have Vertex falling into the other's 12th house which might signify a soul connection as well, especially since your Sun and Mercury also fall in to his 12th and his Venus fall in to your 12th.

As far as friendship goes, the ruler of your 11th house is Mercury. (As a side note, Mercury is conjunct your Vertex. Any planet conjuncting our Vertex is usually an important part of our life path - I have found - and so transits to and from Mercury will be especially important to you, as will communication in general.) And again, since Mercury rules your 11th house and falls into his 12th, he may feel a special spiritual connection to you that is rooted in friendship.

Similarly, his NN falls into your 11th house and conjuncts your Jupiter which could indicate that he is learning things about friendship from you in a Jupiterian way. Perhaps lessons about friendship/abundance?

The ruler of his 11th house is Pluto and you look to have a wide conjunction between his Pluto and your Moon. Moon/Pluto can be a very bonding aspect whether it's friendship or something more. Also, your Pluto falls in to his 11th house (of friendship).

In addition, your IC is also falling in to his 11th house and is conjunct his Ceres.

For a bit more information on karma, you can always type 3811 in to the asteroids section to see where asteroid Karma falls in both your charts

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GirlinSeattle
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posted July 22, 2012 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GirlinSeattle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The degrees for Virgo Sun is 10'4'4"
The red vertex (which is me) is 12'40'31"

Is this significant?

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Sorcha,

Thank you for taking the time to assist me! Yes, I am the one on the outside wheel and he is on the inside. I can see why we have a really good bond, from your readings.

I would like to give you orbs and degrees, but how do you interpret that his Venus conjuncts my South Node? Is it just the opposite of the True Node/NN? When I click on the table chart on astro.com to view aspects, I don't see this aspect. Sorry, I am really new at reading synastry.

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GirlinSeattle
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posted July 22, 2012 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GirlinSeattle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorcha,

It seems as if my Karma (in the 5th house) falls into his 1st house sextile his Moon. His Karma (in the 4th house) falls into my 9th house sextile my Jupiter. Not sure if I am giving these aspects correctly, it is what I drew from the aspect grid on astro.com.

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peachbeigeblue
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posted July 22, 2012 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GirlinSeattle:
The degrees for Virgo Sun is 10'4'4"
The red vertex (which is me) is 12'40'31"

Is this significant?

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Sorcha,

Thank you for taking the time to assist me! Yes, I am the one on the outside wheel and he is on the inside. I can see why we have a really good bond, from your readings.

I would like to give you orbs and degrees, but how do you interpret that his Venus conjuncts my South Node? Is it just the opposite of the True Node/NN? When I click on the table chart on astro.com to view aspects, I don't see this aspect. Sorry, I am really new at reading synastry.


I was told hard aspects between vertex and fast moving planets can indicate a fated encounter.

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GirlinSeattle
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posted July 22, 2012 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GirlinSeattle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If that is the case, I am not surprised! He and I met under very strange circumstances around six years ago. Out of everyone I could have kept in touch with, he was the one. In retrospect, the meeting felt very, very much fated. Which is why I had to ask if there were anything in our synastry that would show these fated or karmic qualities. Apparently, there is quite a bit.

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Sorcha
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posted July 22, 2012 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GirlinSeattle:
The degrees for Virgo Sun is 10'4'4"
The red vertex (which is me) is 12'40'31"

Is this significant?

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Sorcha,

Thank you for taking the time to assist me! Yes, I am the one on the outside wheel and he is on the inside. I can see why we have a really good bond, from your readings.

I would like to give you orbs and degrees, but how do you interpret that his Venus conjuncts my South Node? Is it just the opposite of the True Node/NN? When I click on the table chart on astro.com to view aspects, I don't see this aspect. Sorry, I am really new at reading synastry.


The NN is the exact opposite degree to the SN so you would find out what degree Venus is at and what degree your SN is at and if the orb is under 5 degrees, I would definitely count that as being relevant to past life energy. Some use a much closer orb but as far as astro energy goes, I think it's pertinent.

You also have mutual Moon/Jupiter aspects so that's always a good feeling aspect for any kind of relationship, in case I didn't mention it before. As for Karma asteroid, I tend to look at the conjunctions/oppositions mostly, but that's a personal preference.

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