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sweet-scorpion
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posted July 26, 2012 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lately, I'm forcing myself to become more open to dating and being swept into romance... *cringe*. LOL I'm trying to just be a more open and enthusiastic person socially. But it's very hard for me and I'm actually, quite baffled about my own behaviors.

With love and one-on-one with men... my self-confidence I possess in areas like leadership and my talents seems to fly out the window. I feel a lot of it, is sadly in my own head. I can't get over my own insecurities and it's ruining my life with dating. I constantly obsess over what I said right or wrong, if they were offended by a comment I made, if I'm too loud or not open enough, if they think I'm too mature or maybe immature.

I also have a tendency to get into things way too quickly which can freak some out, not in a clingy way but a really deep way, where I say things about myself honestly and try to soul-search but it can somehow, backfire on me and make me or the other person feel strange. This is a BIG problem for me maybe more so, than the other person. I always wonder, Have I said or revealed too much?

Here's my natal chart for reference.

Am I really doomed to constant insecurities and second-guessing in love? Why do I always blurt everything out too soon? Can I find a way to overcome these issues among others? Thanks everyone...

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"Perfect love casts out fear."
-Anthony de Mello

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friture
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posted July 26, 2012 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for friture     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could it be Asc in Sagi giving you a forthright manner, and Venus in Sco - feelings run deep?

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slowpoke
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posted July 26, 2012 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Through no fault of your own, you have a mixed bag of Astrological blessings.

According to what I see in your transits, you tend to have a streak of good fortune immediately followed by unexplainable misfortune.

According to you, the catalyst for the misfortune sees to be at the point of you saying or doing something - that turns people off. Your transit aspect combinations reflect the same occurrences.

Your aspect combinations are very intricate, I can not address every element and issue here.

Your natal aspects have Mercury square Mars. This aspect suggest that you have a tendency to speak or act before you think.

You, also, have Mercury trine Saturn in a stronger position than the Mercury square Mars aspect. The Mercury trine Saturn represents the influences that have you evaluating your life, accurately. This is a good thing.

Your natal Libra Sun is sextile your Ascendant. Always a good thing.

And finally, among other aspects, your big blessing is your natal Venus conjunct Jupiter (conjunct North Node sextile Moon). These aspects are big indicators of success.

The way the aspects, I have just mentioned, flow in your transits are where your problems lie. Again, the detail is too much to present here. I will just try and give you a light summary of the basic problem.

Good things may happen to you, sometimes in a sudden way. You feel good about your good fortune and want to express yourself.

No sooner than you express yourself, others really don't like what you say. And "wham" all of a sudden you are beginning to feel that you are losing what ever it was you gained.

Or.
You may find yourself gaining things, but your ego is not satisfied with your results.

The bottom line is that both your natal Sun and Mars represent your ego, as well. And your ego is out of line with the rewards that may come your way, be it financial or love. I am guessing that you are young, so I will say this, this way. What I have just said, will be a theme of how things will tend to happen in your life. So, what do you do about it?

My suggestion is to learn how to really enjoy what you have in private. But when you are with others being reserve works in your favor much more. Even if you have to tell yourself to "bit your lip". This action may serve you well.

All of the above applies to your love life, as well.

The transiting Sun, makes favorable aspects to your natal planet aspect combinations on the following dates of any given year. Please not: 107 = January 07 of any given year.

107 thru 111

911 thru 1004

1031 thru 1120!

Warning: remember, after each set of dates, to "bit your lip".


slowpoke

If you are willing to submit your birthdate, I will try and investigate your love life further.

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sweet-scorpion
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posted July 26, 2012 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by friture:
Could it be Asc in Sagi giving you a forthright manner, and Venus in Sco - feelings run deep?

Yes, I think this could be one explanation.

My inner self, sensitive Virgo Moon, can suffer from how my Sagittarius ASC is very forthright...my heart is private while I can seem hot-headed and obnoxious. It just isn't who I really am which can provide issues.

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sweet-scorpion
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posted July 26, 2012 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by slowpoke:
Through no fault of your own, you have a mixed bag of Astrological blessings. According to what I see in your transits, you tend to have a streak of good fortune immediately followed by unexplainable misfortune.

This scares me a little... although I can agree somewhat what do you mean by this? Am I doomed to a life where the good I've built for myself is ruined by my own actions?

quote:

According to you, the catalyst for the misfortune sees to be at the point of you saying or doing something - that turns people off. Your transit aspect combinations reflect the same occurrences.

Somewhat. Yes I can agree with this... I tend to feel like my heart and mind are not always aligned. I always feel very self-conscious of what I say and do. I always second guess my actions and reprimand myself for my own idiocies later. But then again I am extremely hard on myself, and I don't know why. I act two times older than most young women my age, I have a superior intellect to many people I have met, yet I have this communication issue that ruins it all. My good artistic talents will bring me a lot in the near future, I hope, but when it comes to the personal arena of things, I have nothing in the end it seems...

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Your natal aspects have Mercury square Mars. This aspect suggest that you have a tendency to speak or act before you think. You, also, have Mercury trine Saturn in a stronger position than the Mercury square Mars aspect. The Mercury trine Saturn represents the influences that have you evaluating your life, accurately. This is a good thing.

The Merc-Saturn I feel blessed with. Even though my Saturn has given my communication and edu. grief it allows my mind to remain stable but gloomy at times. I think the Merc-Mars square definitely is bad bad bad. I really hate it so much and I can very much come off with, really bad sarcasm, bawdy and instigating sense of humor, confrontational speaking at times, and then verbal strife that's lead people so much older than me to even cry. I'm going to anger management for my communication problems though.

quote:

Your natal Libra Sun is sextile your Ascendant. Always a good thing.

And finally, among other aspects, your big blessing is your natal Venus conjunct Jupiter (conjunct North Node sextile Moon). These aspects are big indicators of success.


*dries tears* Thanks, this makes me feel a lot better. :') Hehe.

quote:
The way the aspects, I have just mentioned, flow in your transits are where your problems lie. Again, the detail is too much to present here. I will just try and give you a light summary of the basic problem.

Good things may happen to you, sometimes in a sudden way. You feel good about your good fortune and want to express yourself.

No sooner than you express yourself, others really don't like what you say. And "wham" all of a sudden you are beginning to feel that you are losing what ever it was you gained.

Or.
You may find yourself gaining things, but your ego is not satisfied with your results.


I slightly identify with the first explanation but way more with your second one. In my heart I feel the H3 Saturn-Merc and Chiron influence on my chart makes me feel very self-conscious about emotional expression and I can imagine attacks and disputes where they don't exist, and feel that people really don't care or like what I say when they really do or are neutral to it. Calmness in my reaction to others' reactions and not being suspicious they hate me is something I am valiantly trying to learn.

I feel that deep down inside I can never fully please myself and once again, the misfortune seems to stem from really my own depressive tendencies and issues with the mind, H3 Saturn. What do you think? I mean, compared to others who I know I am 10 times, 100 times more ambitious and probably off to being successful in my arena of life, yet even the accomplishments I make in literature that make others go ooh and ahh I just don't give a **** about because they aren't big or 'good' enough for me. It's very unsettling since it's an ego issue not being an ingrate. Like I constantly have to work harder to please this monster on my back urging me to do better and better and better when in reality, people like me just as I am, even just 'normal'.

quote:

The bottom line is that both your natal Sun and Mars represent your ego, as well. And your ego is out of line with the rewards that may come your way, be it financial or love. I am guessing that you are young, so I will say this, this way. What I have just said, will be a theme of how things will tend to happen in your life. So, what do you do about it?

My suggestion is to learn how to really enjoy what you have in private. But when you are with others being reserve works in your favor much more. Even if you have to tell yourself to "bit your lip". This action may serve you well.


Thank you for the straightforward advice. I think a big lesson to learn for me is to keep the Libran charm of Sun-ASC and start to tone down the Martian attitudes I have displayed that do not end up making anything better. I feel I have an excellent sense of self but then, suddenly, no sense of self deep down. I can reveal myself to some people I am close to but when it comes to the opposite sex I always feel like you said, that my heart isn't in the rewards I get... like a smile or a good date.

You really summed it up well. I'm going to be successful sheerly from drive and ambition to never quit alone. But in my heart, sometimes I am never happy no matter what. And that has been a problem for a very long time. I think it is more mental than emotional. And VERY prominent in my relationship life. I think I need to learn how to put my cold analytical side away, from my Virgo sense of self, in this arena, or else that will keep me from being happy. And Saturn squares my Descendant so that can be an issue too. It seems I create a lot of issues with my own depressive state of mind. With time I am getting more sure that I have inherited some kind of disorder that I need to treat, and I feel I will be rewarded with more emotional freedom of I treat it with therapy and a doctor.

quote:

If you are willing to submit your birthdate, I will try and investigate your love life further.


Sure, that's very lovely of you. Thank you.

My birthdate is 10/03/1994. I'm young age wise, yes as you guessed, but in my soul I feel much older.

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slowpoke
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posted July 27, 2012 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are young. You are, also, ahead of the average person your age. Astrological influences normally begin to take full affect of individuals around their eighteenth birthdate. This is when young adults start shedding parts of their parents influences in favor of their own individuality. Your Saturn has seem to accelerate the processes in you.

Saturn conjunct or square other planets normally makes one acutely aware of a perceived short coming. Your Saturn square Ascendent may be the driving force behind you being introspective. Your Mercury trine Saturn helps you keep the data straight. You are ahead of your peers.

I will investigate your love potentials further.


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sweet-scorpion
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posted July 27, 2012 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by slowpoke:
You are young. You are, also, ahead of the average person your age. Astrological influences normally begin to take full affect of individuals around their eighteenth birthdate. This is when young adults start shedding the parts of their parents influences in favor of their own individuality. Your Saturn has seem to accelerate the processes in you.

Saturn conjunct or square other planets normally makes one acutely aware a perceived short coming. Your Saturn square Ascendent may be the driving force behind you being introspective. Your Mercury trine Saturn helps you keep the data straight. You are ahead of your peers.

I will investigate your love potentials further.


slowpoke


Thank you so much Slowpoke... your insights are absolutely great and very accurate. I think you worded what I feel perfectly.

I'm surprised about how Saturn actually has made me way more advanced since I've typically seen it as a planet of limitations. Maybe I just am imaging the limitations but they aren't actually there...Maybe H3 Saturn is what makes me so far ahead of everyone else after all. I'm intrigued by how you said for most astrological influences begin around the 18th birthday...when do you think mine began? I'm guessing at 14? Maybe even younger?

Also, that's very true about Saturn square ASC. I'm not actually a shy person deep down but this placement can make me have a tendency to feel like sometimes I speak too much or just, should not be deserving attention or respect.

I really appreciate you helping me out with my love life issues also, since your insights are dead-on and provide me a lot of help. Thanks again.

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slowpoke
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posted July 28, 2012 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Date 728.12


Based on Synastry Astrology (Relationships) and your DOB, SD 1003.94, the following birthdates may suit you well.

Astrologically speaking, you are a difficult person to match with others. But, you are not alone, because most individuals are difficult to match well with others via Synastry Astrology calculations.

You may notice a large number of years or gaps between your dates; this is because the matches are base on Astrology aspects. These aspects come and go through a repetitive cycle. It takes time for strong aspect combinations to form with your natal aspects and the faster moving planets fall in and out of favorable aspects quickly, this is why you will see gaps between many dates and why the time span is so large.
Please note: 0129.61 = birthdate January 29, 1961.


0129.61
0618.62
0619.62
0623.62
0624.62
1108.62
1109.62
1111.62
1113.62
1114.62
1115.62
1116.62
1117.62
1118.62
1119.62
1120.62
1121.62
1122.62
1123.62
1125.62
1126.62
1129.62
0709.63
0710.63
0711.63
0712.63
0713.63
0604.64
1212.64
1213.64
1214.64
1216.64
1219.64
0125.65
0126.65
0128.65
0129.65
0130.65
0222.65
0225.65
0226.65
0228.65
0302.65
0303.65
0304.65
0305.65
0306.65
0307.65
0308.65
0311.65
0602.65
0605.65
0606.65
0607.65
0608.65
0616.65
0618.65
0619.65
0620.65
0621.65
0622.65
0623.65
0625.65
0708.65
0709.65
0907.65
0908.65
0909.65
0910.65
0911.65
0912.65
0913.65
0915.65
0918.65
0919.65
0920.65
0921.65
0922.65
0923.65
0924.65
0925.65
0926.65
0927.65
0928.65
0930.65
1001.65
1002.65
1003.65
1112.65
1113.65
1211.65
0304.66
0305.66
0307.66
0308.66
0310.66
0311.66
0708.66
0709.66
0710.66
0713.66
0716.66
0717.66
0919.66
0923.66
1110.66
1112.66
1115.66
1116.66
1120.66
1201.66
0131.69

0930.70
1001.70
1003.70
1004.70
1126.77
0927.78
0929.78
0930.78
1001.78
1002.78
1004.78
1005.78
1008.78
1009.78
1029.78
1030.78
1101.78
1216.78
1217.78
1218.78
0107.79
0403.79
0404.79
0405.79
0406.79
0407.79
0408.79
0409.79
0410.79
0411.79
0412.79

0906.80
0907.80
0909.80
0913.80
0914.80
0915.80
0223.86
0224.86
0225.86
0226.86
0227.86
0522.86
0523.86
0524.86
0602.86
0604.86
0908.86
0909.86
0912.86
0913.86
0915.86
0916.86
0917.86
0918.86
0919.86
0921.86
0922.86
0924.86
0926.86
1029.86
1031.86
1102.86
1103.86
1104.86
1106.86
1108.86
1110.86
1111.86
0130.88
0317.88
0318.88
0321.88
0324.88
0325.88
0326.88
0328.88
1110.88
1112.88
1113.88
1114.88
1115.88
1117.88
1118.88
0427.89
0901.89
0905.89
0913.89
0914.89
0915.89
0916.89
0922.89
0923.89
0924.89
0925.89
0926.89
0928.89
0929.89
0930.89
1003.89
1008.89
1120.89
1121.89
1122.89
1123.89
1124.89
1126.89
1127.89
1129.89
1130.89
1203.89
1206.89

0106.90
0125.90
0127.90
0128.90
0129.90
0130.90
0221.90
0223.90
0224.90
0225.90
0226.90
0227.90
0301.90
0302.90
0720.90
0721.90
0722.90
0723.90
0724.90
0725.90
0726.90
0727.90
0728.90
0729.90
0730.90
0731.90
0802.90
0813.90
0722.93
0723.93
0724.93
0726.93
0727.93
0731.93
0802.93
1010.93
1012.93
1013.93
1014.93
1015.93
1016.93
1102.93
1103.93
1104.93
1105.93
1106.93
1107.93
1108.93
1109.93
1127.93
0110.94
0111.94
0113.94


Disclaimer:
Astrology is nothing more than statistics. It is a tool that suggest the potential in human dynamics. It is a method of putting into words, the possible potentials that a person may have as an individual or, on how two or more individuals may interact with each other - with the operative word being "may". The results for any given person or persons will never be one hundred percent good and whatever results are given, do not represent an absolute given. The dates given above are derived from Synastry Astrology (relationship) calculations using, basicly, 5 degree orbs and pertain to the person the dates were researched for. No guarantees are given or implied, as to the accuracy of results given and or to the potential failures and or successes the chart and aspect readings suggest. No other astrological resource can produce a Synastry birthdate list in this manner.

Data Sources:
The American Ephemeris at "Noon" were used. The Moon moves approximately 12 degrees per day. Using a "Noon" Moon ephemeris cuts the movement in half, this allows for the best possible results with the Moon aspects when not knowing or using the exact time and place, of birthdate prospects. The primary Synastry aspect interpretations were acquired from "Do It Yourself Relationship Astrology" by Lyn Birkbeck 1999.

How to Apply Your List:
In the real World, your family values, mindset and, social influences tend to dictate your actions and interactions with others. It is quite possible to meet two or more people with the same birthdates that are provided above. But how these people influence you - will depend on your mindset.

People with these birthdates come in all colors, gender, intellect, shapes, sizes, handicaps, religious beliefs and, other issues. So when trying to locate people with these dates - temper your expectations and treat each new person as a fresh new beginning. Keep in mind, that you are working from your list of possibilities, but the people you are researching do not have a list of any sort and will not be looking at you in the same light. So keep your excitement in check and carefully work towards the results you hope to have. Also, keep in mind that having this list will not insure that each person researched will be law abiding, healthy, wealthy, and or honest. This information will not protect you against personal health issues and or contagious diseases. This list represents some of the finest potentials for solid friendships, study partners and working companions best suited to you. There are plenty of good people around for you to know who are not part of this list. But, astrologically speaking, you would be very wise indeed, to use this list as a reference to help identify quality people for you to know through the course of your life.


slowpoke


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Slowpoke's Aspects To Live For
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/202766.html


Slowpoke's: Synastry Aspects - Void of Planet Linkages
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/214576.html

Transiting Sun makes favorable aspects to, SD 1003.94 w X and your natal aspect combinations on these dates:
Please note: 107 = January 07 of any given year.

107 thru 111

911 thru 1004

1031 thru 1120!

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