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sweet-scorpion
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posted July 30, 2012 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never had a relationship that suddenly exploded into something so intense with anyone before. I'm, for the first time, so utterly into the relationship and how wonderful it makes me feel. It's very intense and not usual for me to feel like this at all, and I was wondering what everyone thought about the condition of our synastry and what it could mean for us in the future... like eventually dating seriously, or maybe not.

The thing is, I definitely could see myself getting serious with this person...but we've only know each other for 1.5 months! And out of the clear blue sky I suddenly fancied him, and I was the one to initiate it. I'm not the giddy, head over heels type either [I have natal Venus-Saturn ], so this caught me so off-guard....I don't know how or why this all happened. It was really magnetic.

I see a few factors that can contribute but I wanted to hear opinions on this. Like, what do you think my Saturn in his 7th means, or his Saturn in his 2nd, what does that mean for us? I'm having a tough time with Saturn in romantic synastry and what to make of it.

And another thing... we have, obviously Pluto contacts. Pluto sq. Sun, Pluto con. Moon, etc... But for an instance like our Moon Pluto conjunction in Scorpio in the 12th, WHICH of us is going to be more obsessed? Basically, is he feeling so thrown-off and just as enamored as I am? Below are our synastry charts, and our composite. Thanks for any feedback and help on any one of these charts. It would give me some peace of mind.

ME ON THE OUTSIDE:

GUY ON THE OUTSIDE

COMPOSITE CHART

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peachbeigeblue
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posted July 30, 2012 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhh I wish I could help but i think you are more advanced than I am so I won't be able to offer anything you dont already. I think those Moon conjunctions may be the culprit. Hopefully someone with more experience can help you.

PS you live moderately close to me. My ex lived there

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posted July 30, 2012 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooo Leo with Scorpio moon. I know one of those. That must be nice with ur Sun and moon!

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ueharaa
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posted July 30, 2012 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What stroke me the most at first sight, was your NN/Jupiter/venus scorpio stellium being triggered by his IC/Pluto conjunction along with the moon, pluto conjunction.
Those aspects in your synastry are to me the most potent at triggering the feelings you described:
Your pluto conjuncts his Moon
Your Venus conjuncts his IC
Your venus conjuncts his Pluto (it seems a bit wide but I would still count it)
His IC conjuncts your NN

Also your Moon conjuncts his Mars
Your saturn opposes his Venus and his saturn opposes your mars.

The Moon-Pluto and Venus-Pluto definitely speaks of intensity of feelings and emotions. It is love that is deeply powerful and transformative. I believe that the fact that you both don't have those aspects natally and that you are both Pluto puts you both at the mercy of these intense, powerful feelings.

Your Venus conjuncting his IC is a wonderful aspect for bonding and feeling deeply close to someone.

And I love nodes connections in synastry. It might be just me, but they really are the significant relationship to me. Significant because meaningful. Nodes/angles overlay give a fated flavor with a sense of things falling in their right place. I believe they're also responsible for "sudden" attraction. Not in the uranus, where everything just happens so fast and also ends very fast. But more in a "wow, this person really gets me and so do I" It's a sort of unspoken connection that makes two people feel at ease with each other in a very unexplainable way.

Now, saturn aspects, I feel, are like a double edged sword. They add longevity and commitment and trust and loyalty which everyone wants and needs in a deep relationship since those qualities coupled with love truly speak of devotion. But they can also feel restrictive, and binding in a negative sense.

Your saturn is in his 7th house. And you mentioned having a natal venus-saturn aspect so it might be the reason why you can see definitely see yourself getting serious with him. Because your saturn actually sees him as a potential ideal partner. Now I also think it goes both way. The way I see house overlays is that usually the house person is the most affected by the planet person because the way they express their planets somehow speaks to them of matters related to the house the planets are in. Your Saturn in his 7th house with him having an aquarius descendant and thus traditionally ruled by Saturn, could make you appear to him as a potential ideal and long term partner, and this could even be truer if you yourself channel your saturn characteristics strongly in every day life. I could be very wrong though as this has only been my experience being the 7th house person (and having a capricorn desc).


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posted July 30, 2012 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
Ahhh I wish I could help but i think you are more advanced than I am so I won't be able to offer anything you dont already. I think those Moon conjunctions may be the culprit. Hopefully someone with more experience can help you.

PS you live moderately close to me. My ex lived there


It's OK sweetie, don't worry about it. Thanks for replying anyway. I usually post here just to gather opinions and exchange ideas but I usually have somewhat of an idea of what's going on myself... I just love conferring with others! Typical Libra, right?

Really?! Wow, that's cool. Are you more towards Philadelphia?

And I agree, I feel the Moon-Pluto and Moon-Mars is huge, especially since I've never had this connection with a member of the opposite sex before. I guess the sudden lightning attraction was my Pluto at work, suddenly feeling so drawn to him and hitting him full force... ugh I feel kind of bad. LOL I hope it's not emotional overload for him. Hopefully not though. I think other aspects can balance that one out.


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Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
Ooo Leo with Scorpio moon. I know one of those. That must be nice with ur Sun and moon!

Yes, it really is. And what is super ironic is that, I usually don't get along well with Scorp Sun-Leo Moon people. I guess the inverse works somehow. :') In a simple way I think of it as: My earth moon is nourished by the waters of his Scorpio Moon, and my air sun can fan the flames of the Leo sun, not minding the pride or drama, only enjoying it alongside them!

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posted July 30, 2012 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ueharaa:
What stroke me the most at first sight, was your NN/Jupiter/venus scorpio stellium being triggered by his IC/Pluto conjunction along with the moon, pluto conjunction.
Those aspects in your synastry are to me the most potent at triggering the feelings you described:
Your pluto conjuncts his Moon
Your Venus conjuncts his IC
Your venus conjuncts his Pluto (it seems a bit wide but I would still count it)
His IC conjuncts your NN

Also your Moon conjuncts his Mars
Your saturn opposes his Venus and his saturn opposes your mars.

The Moon-Pluto and Venus-Pluto definitely speaks of intensity of feelings and emotions. It is love that is deeply powerful and transformative. I believe that the fact that you both don't have those aspects natally and that you are both Pluto puts you both at the mercy of these intense, powerful feelings.

Your Venus conjuncting his IC is a wonderful aspect for bonding and feeling deeply close to someone.

And I love nodes connections in synastry. It might be just me, but they really are the significant relationship to me. Significant because meaningful. Nodes/angles overlay give a fated flavor with a sense of things falling in their right place. I believe they're also responsible for "sudden" attraction. Not in the uranus, where everything just happens so fast and also ends very fast. But more in a "wow, this person really gets me and so do I" It's a sort of unspoken connection that makes two people feel at ease with each other in a very unexplainable way.

Now, saturn aspects, I feel, are like a double edged sword. They add longevity and commitment and trust and loyalty which everyone wants and needs in a deep relationship since those qualities coupled with love truly speak of devotion. But they can also feel restrictive, and binding in a negative sense.

Your saturn is in his 7th house. And you mentioned having a natal venus-saturn aspect so it might be the reason why you can see definitely see yourself getting serious with him. Because your saturn actually sees him as a potential ideal partner. Now I also think it goes both way. The way I see house overlays is that usually the house person is the most affected by the planet person because the way they express their planets somehow speaks to them of matters related to the house the planets are in. Your Saturn in his 7th house with him having an aquarius descendant and thus traditionally ruled by Saturn, could make you appear to him as a potential ideal and long term partner, and this could even be truer if you yourself channel your saturn characteristics strongly in every day life. I could be very wrong though as this has only been my experience being the 7th house person (and having a capricorn desc).


Thanks for the insights! I totally didn't catch the IC-North Node conjunction! I wonder what that could mean for us... maybe it means, that my destiny is to open up more to the opposite sex [so true, Venus-Saturn remember?] and even though it could have ups and downs I'll grow and advance emotionally so much from this, and he'll probably learn a lot too.

I think all the aspects you highlighted could describe what is going on. I love the description you gave on H7 Saturn for the chart... it makes me feel somewhat better, you wrote everything with perfect clarity. It completely makes sense to me that my Venus-Saturn actually adds to the H7 Saturn position, and admires how he is a respectable and dependable partner, so unlike guys in their early 20's out there I've known. It makes me happy to think he could probably feel that I'm really mature for my age, and a good partner for a long-term romance also.

What makes me sad, very sad deep down is that, I've glanced at our composite again and the synastry and we do have a lot of Uranus afflictions. And this is most likely, 65% of my own doing. Since, I'm a roamer... I go wherever my heart takes me. It's my mindset that could ruin the partnership. Take our composite for example. Uranus in the 3rd [with Neptune but ignoring that for now]. I have, in my natal chart, Uranus/Aquarius ruling the 3rd... so this speaks to me that my deep desire to change locations so frequently could really screw things up. I'm planning on traveling a lot this upcoming year and maybe even never coming back to where we live, for a long time unless to visit relatives. Subsequently the rest of the intense aspects that scream of 'bound together no matter what' is what really hurts my heart. I wish I could appreciate the area as he does but, I can't.

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posted July 30, 2012 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Yes, it really is. And what is super ironic is that, I usually don't get along well with Scorp Sun-Leo Moon people. I guess the inverse works somehow. :') In a simple way I think of it as: My earth moon is nourished by the waters of his Scorpio Moon, and my air sun can fan the flames of the Leo sun, not minding the pride or drama, only enjoying it alongside them!

I'm happy you're happy.

I live in the suburbs. More east/northeast from you. Philly is like 40 minutes away and WC takes about the same amount of time. He actually technically lived in coatesville. I loved getting my hair done by some guy up there. His friends all lived in WC. And naturally when I was 18/19 I used to go there all the time with friends. Small world

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sweet-scorpion
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posted July 31, 2012 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
I'm happy you're happy.

I live in the suburbs. More east/northeast from you. Philly is like 40 minutes away and WC takes about the same amount of time. He actually technically lived in coatesville. I loved getting my hair done by some guy up there. His friends all lived in WC. And naturally when I was 18/19 I used to go there all the time with friends. Small world


Thanks sweetie.

Yeah, small world indeed... I'd never think a friend on Linda would live so close! It's really cool. I don't spend that much time in WC myself but we go there every now and again. They do have some really great salons and boutiques there.

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posted August 02, 2012 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope your find works out well.

Try here too:
http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/comp2f


http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/003820.html

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posted August 03, 2012 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL at a scorpio asking why a relationship is intense!!!!

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