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carl
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posted September 09, 2012 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will it pass?

I WANT!

Like in the next two years, ahh!

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posted September 09, 2012 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Get a puppy instead!

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carl
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posted September 09, 2012 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No. Fun, but I like the idea of seeing the mixture of two, one of which being myself.

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posted September 09, 2012 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also T. Jupiter is in your natal - 5th. The 5th rules children and with Jupiter there it definitely points to the desire to spawn haha!

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carl
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posted September 09, 2012 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks. But I want it soooon. what do you think? does want = happening soon?

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vertiver
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posted September 09, 2012 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by carl:
Thanks. But I want it soooon. what do you think? does want = happening soon?

Yeah definitely and Jupiter does just that. Are you in a relationship with someone who wants children?

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carl
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posted September 09, 2012 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No....am single (as of now)....I want to be...A lot. Haha, you get the point!! I also want a baby who is mixed..

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posted September 09, 2012 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unaspected ruler of H5. No, it will not pass. Kids will always have a special place with you. You could adopt if you want it soon and cannot find someone with same views as you.

I want kids badly too. Though on some level I realize I am not ready yet.

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posted September 09, 2012 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by carl:
No....am single (as of now)....I want to be...A lot. Haha, you get the point!! I also want a baby who is mixed..

Well it will happen soon. And I've also always wanted to have a kid that wasn't just white as well... I mean nothing against white people but I'm white and I want to mix up my genetics.

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posted September 09, 2012 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A sudden powerful emotional desire should be explored, but not acted upon immediately.

As someone who experiences intense emotions, I can tell you that they usually pass if you ride them out and just wait.

I really don't think that it's a good idea to just jump into having children. My advice would be to ride this feeling out, figure out why it was suddenly triggered, and deal with that.

Having children isn't fun or games. It's not a series of Hallmark moments. Having children adds a lot of stress and anxiety, as well as obligations and responsibilities. Plus, if you are not married/don't have a partner, all of those responsibilities fall on you. There is also the financial cost. And if you end up having a special-needs child, you also have to consider what that would mean and how that would affect you.

Don't jump into it just to have a child. Some people think that kids are cute, but they aren't little dolls who just sit there and look darling. They have needs. They are unpleasant at times. They are demanding and being a parent is challenging. Once you actually have a child, unless you put it up for adoption, you can't just give it back if you end up regretting it.

My advice: get your kid fix by baby-sitting or volunteering, and see what it's actually like being with children. Include some time with special-needs kids/difficult kids, too. Really know what you're in for.

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posted September 09, 2012 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I totally agree with Regardes. I also thought I wanted a kid, but then I did an internship with kids with autism and it totally opened my eyes. Yes they were cute, and even though they had autism they acted very normal (because they had already done extensive therapy on them) except they couldn't speak in full sentences yet. Trust me, kids are annoying as hell. They will cry and throw themselves on the floor for whatever they think they can get away with. Not saying these kids did that because they didn't, but if you didn't have the right parenting knowledge like we do because we're psychologists, then your kids could easily be throwing tantrums all over the place just like I see so many little kids doing all the time. Like my cousin's kids, for example.

They also rarely want to eat. You have to chase them around the house to be able to feed them. They hit, they spit, they destroy things, jump on things, throw things, smash things, they whine 24/7. They also rarely want to go to sleep, unless they're really tired and did a lot of exercise that day.

Possible reasons you might be craving a kid are
1. You're lonely. You think a kid will give you company and a reason to live. Trust me, a pet is much easier to take care of, and the feelings they give are closer to what you think a kid will give you.
2. You want to prove that you can handle responsibility, both to yourself, and also, but mainly to parents or others who doubt you. In this way, you want to hurry up and grow up, so you can feel like an adult already.
3. A combination of both.

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posted September 09, 2012 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wanted to come give you a hug, Carl.


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carl
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posted September 09, 2012 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey guys thanks for the responses.

Listen, I know raising a child takes work, it is not a cake walk, you do not need to tell me that. But one can still be excited, no? I also failed to mention, I am very practical in regards to children: Just like a child needs to wait 5 more weeks for christmas, I can wait 5 more years.

I work in young education (2-5), I know what I am, (or would be), getting myself into, at least to an extent. Trust me. Of course I have the luxury of going home each night, and do it for 40 hours/week and of course a child is 24/7 (your only break, ironically, being 40 hours/work, or if grandparents can babysit). But still, I get it. I am as ready as possible to take on the responsibility (well, other than simply wanting to be practical and save up more money to properly support them and eventually send them to a good University without them having to take on debt).

Run,
Regarding the first part of your second post. I disagree, a lot. I don't even know where to start. But for sure not all children are even close to like that. No way. It takes a knowledable parent. But if a child is breaking stuff, not eating, etc. etc. I would look to the parent, first. I know and have seen plenty of children who eat even better than some of my friends who are adults! These children are self sufficient, make healthy choices, regulate their emotions, build and sustain relationships, etc. Children thrive with consistency, they need it, it is safe to them. They need an engaging, stimulating, inviting enviroment which takes into consideration their gross motor, fine motor, cognitive and language development, etc. etc. If they don't have that enviroment, yes, they may resort to other things you describe. Or if the parent is a push over.
But if they are in an enviroment that offers so much, the problems will not at all be as prominent as you seem to express.


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posted September 09, 2012 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
" they had autism they acted very normal"

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I take issue with the usage of the word "normal".

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Ami Anne
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posted September 09, 2012 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by carl:
Hey guys thanks for the responses.

Listen, I know raising a child takes work, it is not a cake walk, you do not need to tell me that. But one can still be excited, no? I also failed to mention, I am very practical in regards to children: Just like a child needs to wait 5 more weeks for christmas, I can wait 5 more years.

I work in young education (2-5), I know what I am, (or would be), getting myself into, at least to an extent. Trust me. Of course I have the luxury of going home each night, and do it for 40 hours/week and of course a child is 24/7 (your only break, ironically, being 40 hours/work, or if grandparents can babysit). But still, I get it. I am as ready as possible to take on the responsibility (well, other than simply wanting to be practical and save up more money to properly support them and eventually send them to a good University without them having to take on debt).

Run,
Regarding the first part of your second post. I disagree, a lot. I don't even know where to start. But for sure not all children are even close to like that. No way. It takes a knowledable parent. But if a child is breaking stuff, not eating, etc. etc. I would look to the parent, first. I know and have seen plenty of children who eat even better than some of my friends who are adults! These children are self sufficient, make healthy choices, regulate their emotions, build and sustain relationships, etc. Children thrive with consistency, they need it, it is safe to them. They need an engaging, stimulating, inviting enviroment which takes into consideration their gross motor, fine motor, cognitive and language development, etc. etc. If they don't have that enviroment, yes, they may resort to other things you describe. Or if the parent is a push over.
But if they are in an enviroment that offers so much, the problems will not at all be as prominent as you seem to express.


My son, who died, was the same way as you. He said he was embarrassed, as he REALLY wanted a child and was only 21 and a sophomore in college.

I think it is just a part of you

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posted September 09, 2012 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, I am so sorry to hear about your son. It must have been heartbreaking to lose him. <<<HUGS>>>

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posted September 09, 2012 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carl, I think it will pass. Your children area is currently being stimulated by Jupiter transiting there, but Gemini is a rather changeable sign so the feeling might come and go.

You're poised to have a Saturn return in a few, and I think babies will be the last things on your mind.

ETA: Actually, let me revise that. You have had a series of eclipses involving your house of children, so it's quite possible that you might have a child coming your way in the most unusual way.

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posted September 09, 2012 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by carl:
" they had autism they acted very normal"


they did act normal because we had already done extensive therapy on them..i said that.

i was just trying to be helpful. that's fine.
Those are the experiences ive had with the little kids i have met, and they were raised in normal environments by loving parents who weren't push overs.

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posted September 10, 2012 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well if they are not eating, breaking stuff, something is off...Regardless, I just thought it was a small sample size to use to pidgeon hole all children. Not that they are easy, as I said, I know it is not a cake walk. But creating a good, solid enviroment is paramount and too many (even well meaning) parents are simply content to place Johnny and Sally in front of the TV and/or computer.

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posted September 13, 2012 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, sorry to hear about your son

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posted September 13, 2012 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by carl:
Thanks. But I want it soooon. what do you think? does want = happening soon?

We d have beautiful children


Edit By the way. I did not read this thread until now.

Ami, I am truly sorry for your loss. I could of sworn I saw a picture of you and it looked like a 21 year old yourself. Had no idea but can understand somethings you've talked about more clearly now.

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posted September 13, 2012 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
My son, who died, was the same way as you. He said he was embarrassed, as he REALLY wanted a child and was only 21 and a sophomore in college.

I think it is just a part of you



Oh man, Ami, I'm really sorry. I never knew...

Gosh, you seem so put together, kind, considerate, sweet, you are the last person to have this happen to.


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posted September 14, 2012 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
[B] We d have beautiful children


Oh really? <sheepish grin>

hehe

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posted September 14, 2012 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by carl:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
[B] We d have beautiful children


Oh really? <sheepish grin>

hehe



You don't agree?

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posted September 14, 2012 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, never said that! haha! I actually have never seen your posts, I think. But, in the same sense, I am really flattered!!!! Would be interested to see your chart!!

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