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Ceridwen
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posted September 23, 2012 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A friend of mine asked me if there will be contact between her and a certain guy on a definite occasion.
What do you think?

(BTW SHE is asking the question, not me; and she noted the exact time she had the question, as I told her months before how important that is. lol)



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EmpressMendez
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posted September 23, 2012 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would help, but this one looks way too advanced for me (note to all - if I don't reply to your horary post it is because I think your horary looks too advanced or confusing)

Bumping for the experts! ;D

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vesta
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posted September 23, 2012 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri, tried to send you a horary report for this but e-mail failed.

though, it looks positive from report.

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Chryseis
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posted September 24, 2012 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ceridwen, I am no expert but I'm starting to get into this horary stuff and I thought I would give it a go.

Significator of the querent, Mercury in Libra in 1st, has several close aspects:

separating quincunx from Neptune in Pisces on 6th, ruler of the 7th, and significator of the quesited.

applying trine/sextile to 5th/11th house cusps, and its closest aspect - applying to 6/12th cusps.

Mercury is also applying to a square with Pluto in Cap in 4th and an opposition with Uranus in Aries in 7th.


Sun is also in 1st house, but in Virgo, so ruled by Mercury, and it's closest aspect is an applying sextile to North Node in Scorpio in 3rd.

Moon, co-significator for the querent, has as its closest aspect an applying conjunction to Saturn in the 2nd, and is also applying to Neptune.

The essential dignities are:
Neptune dignified in Pisces
Mars dignified in Scorpio
Saturn exalted in Libra
Jupiter in its detriment in Gemini

In synthesis: The significators Mercury and Neptune are in close aspect but Mercury is separating, which suggest that mercury may lose patience with waiting, and with Mercury conjunct Sun in 1st, the querent has a great deal of pride invested in the nature of the question - in fact, it is probably a work related event/connection with Neptune dignified and on 6th, ruling 7th, and hence querent will not want to look like she was wasting her time or is foolish perhaps. She may almost start feeling sorry for the guy as if she has taken things too far in some way.

Sun in applying sextile to North Node in Scorpio in 3rd, along with Mercury's opposition to Uranus, shows that she may attempt to communicate with the quesited electronically surrounding the time of the event. This communication is supported by friend/group networks, backed up by Venus in Leo in 11th, ruling the Moon, and in aspect to Mars in 3rd, and Jupiter on MC. But Mars is dignified in challenging aspect to Venus and Jupiter (in its detriment), friends could complicate the situation, by overdoing the innuendos, or giving too much information, that could serve to disadvantage the connection or effect the reputation - or there could be something like photos on facebook perhaps with various others that might end up putting either side off.

Moon applying to a conjunction with Saturn exalted in Libra in 2nd, again points to impatience/disappointment on the querents part, possibly because she doesn't have much faith in the horary question or in getting a worthwhile answer, but probably more to the point, she is limited by her level of self esteem to see things through to a successful result. I am thinking she is a mother and she thinks she comes with 'baggage'. And with its applying trine to Neptune, there is a feel here that she is prepared to overlook any of her own faults/possible disadvantages, on the surface of it, and expect the quesited to be evolved enough to relate person to person rather than get bogged down by her personal details - but underneath she's uncertain so she's kind of hoping for a miracle in some capacity here.

Mercury's applying square to Pluto in 4th and opposition to Uranus in 7th, is like a window of fate. Expect the unexpected, but it has a feel that contained within the event is an avenue for a further connection at some other time, if not with the quesited, with another potential 'other'.

Mercury's applying trine/sextile to the 5th/11th supports the idea that others will be involved at a social event and that the querent herself will definitely be there.

And it's closer applying aspects to the 6th/12th, points to body issues, or trying to give an impression of her potential by putting out images somehow of herself when she was younger, the facebook idea. Also that there is quite a bit of behind the scenes communicating going on that is somehow filtering down to the quesited.

With Jupiter ad the highest planet in the chart, but in detriment, luck is not on her side, but wisdom can be, so again, there is still an opportunity within the situation, but perhaps not as she would have counted on.

I would advise that it is a slim chance that the guy will be there although there is a faint impression that he might somehow have a look in on it all. I think he will get wind of her interest in him though, and he may be reasonably curious.

I feel that there will be before and after communications on facebook or something, involving others, and surrounding the event, and that photos could be involved in this communication.

Lastly, there seems to be an inherent window of fate that acts as an avenue for a further unexected liason in the chain of social connections.


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Ceridwen
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posted September 25, 2012 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chryseis,

thanks for all the effort you put into this.
It is kinda difficult for me to reply this, cause your approach is not very much in line with the horary rules, which are rather strict.
However, who is to say it couldn´t work this way, too?
it all seems quite likely except for the thing about electronic communication. I can say for certain that this is not going to happen (definitely no facebook on either end).

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Chryseis
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posted September 25, 2012 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your reply, Ceridwen, yeah I only started looking at horary last week so I'm only early days into it.

I felt there was some photos/pictures on an electronic system that involved communication about the guy and about the event - not just this thread of yours, but I definitely think some kind of texting or back and forth posting mainly about the guy but also in smaller amounts directly to him. Maybe it was something like tarot readings online like we have here, anyway, its some kind of thick communication that is built around him, and seems like a few lines directly to him.

Anyway, it was just a shot at it.

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