posted September 28, 2012 03:36 AM            

their report from grupovenus:

Mercury Mutually Aspects Venus

You are able to share both intellectually and emotionally, and you always feel respected and understood by each other. Your conversations have the effect of putting you in a happy, agreeable or loving state of mind. You emphasize similarities rather than differences, and therefore get along well together.

Mama's Sun opposition Papa's Moon orb 2° 8'

The two of you are attracted to each other in a magnetic, almost fated, kind of way. If you aren't married yet, there is a high probability that some day you will be! The two of you are drawn to each other even though, in some ways, you have opposite personalities.

Mama's Venus conjunct Papa's Saturn orb 0° 36'

This is a deep and serious relationship. You feel very secure with each other and you both feel comfortable making a lasting commitment to each other. However, the relationship tends to highlight the importance of responsibility and loyalty to one another, and you may cut yourselves off from other people or from activities you enjoyed before you came together, and this is likely to eventually lead to feelings of boredom, constraint, and being restricted. The commitment to the relationship may eventually become burdensome, especially to Mama, who is likely to feel unappreciated and emotionally inhibited by Papa, while Papa may feel that there is a lack of acknowledgment for the efforts and sacrifices made for Mama. This can become a rather joyless union unless you can build enough time for fun and play into your lives and thereby not become burdened by the demands of the relationship.

Mama's Saturn conjunct Papa's Mars orb 0° 24'

The two of you are able to perform detailed tasks together, and really buckle down to a task at hand and successfully complete any task that you collaborate on. However, there may be too much caution and restraint when good opportunities arise. You are hesitant to take risks together. Mama is inclined to doubt Papa's ability to succeed in any kind of risky or speculative endeavor and consequently often suggests a conservative approach to achieving goals. In some cases, this caution is unwarranted and very frustrating to Papa, but at other times Mama provides a realistic, clear, focused perspective on how Papa can achieve goals.

On another level, Mama may suppress Papa's natural desires, drives, and physical energy level, which can leave Papa feeling drained and resentful. Beware of holding in anger and irritation with one another for it can slowly poison your relationship.

Mama's Venus conjunct Papa's Ascendant orb 0° 5'

You are very special to each other and you both probably recognize that you have found a person that embodies many of the qualities of your 'Ideal Mate'. Love, sweetness, tenderness, and appreciation permeate your relationship. A strong desire to please each other, and to cooperate, makes you a very harmonious couple.

Mama's Sun square Papa's Sun orb 1° 45'

Your relationship is dynamic and energizing. You challenge each other to grow and develop, but unfortunately the process tends to be abrasive and frustrating. The differences in your personalities that are described at the beginning of Chapter 1 deserve careful reading and attention because if not understood and handled properly, they can lead to mutual frustration.

Mama's Sun trine Papa's Uranus orb 1° 50'

Playfulness and a zest for newness infuse your relationship. You really spark each other's imagination and creativity. This quality is especially welcome in a long-term relationship because you will not fall into a lifeless routine. You spur each other to explore, take risks, and develop new creative outlets. You encourage each other's independence. There is an electric, spontaneous quality between you , and your sexual relationship is lively and exciting as well.

Mama's Mercury square Papa's Venus orb 1° 28'

You enjoy sharing ideas about the arts, literature, and people but often you fail to understand each other and sometimes reach a complete impasse. Your feelings towards each other are sometimes misunderstood too, with one of you perhaps feeling more romantic and the other person feeling inclined strictly towards friendship without romance. Both of you will have to tolerate different points of view from your partner for this relationship to work successfully.

Mama's Mercury square Papa's Jupiter orb 0° 20'

This relationship has a marked effect on the overall attitudes and beliefs of both of you, but particularly of Mama. You challenge each other's religious, political, and philosophical beliefs. You may experience differences of opinion that are difficult to reconcile. You are also inclined to take risks together and speculate, sometimes foolishly.

Mama's Venus trine Papa's Mercury orb 0° 38'

You love to discuss the arts, literature, culture, or any other area that involves a strong aesthetic or emotional element. You are also likely to work successfully together in artistic, literary, or some humanitarian area. Your strong friendship and admiration for each other fosters a lasting, harmonious partnership.

Mama's Jupiter sextile Papa's Sun orb 0° 47'

Your relationship has an upbeat, friendly positive quality that makes it fun to be with each other. You help each other laugh and take life less seriously. It is not unusual for the two of you to have a great deal of fun playing games or even while engaging in daily activities such as shopping, etc. You allow each other considerable freedom; you respect each other's independence, and are more interested in enjoying a good time together rather than dominating or smothering each other. This astrological influence is a positive one that helps enormously when the more stressful and difficult influences described elsewhere in this report make themselves felt.

Mama's Neptune square Papa's Mercury orb 0° 57'

You inspire each other's imagination and you may find yourselves gravitating towards discussions of fantasy, poetry, art, theater, and religion. However, the tendency to lose a clear sense of proportion and become clouded by fantasies is very strong! You may also be inclined to conceal something or deceive each other. Little white lies can quickly foster a morass of confusion. Misunderstandings between you arise easily so try to be clear and precise in all important, practical communications.

Mama's Ascendant square Papa's Mars orb 2° 39'

The two of you frequently approach work and goals in very different ways, and consequently you are inclined to step on each other's toes. Mama may feel that Papa is pushy or insensitive to all of the issues and concerns that are involved in a situation. You can work together very effectively, but it requires you to allow each other the freedom to approach problems in a very different way than you would. Very often you can accomplish more by working separately from each other on different aspects of a problem rather than attempting to work jointly.

END OF THE SHORT VERSION

The complete version includes:
Chapter 3
Other Themes in Your Relationship
Mama's Sun in Papa's 2 house
Papa's Sun in Mama's 8 house
Mama's Moon in Papa's 1 house
Papa's Moon in Mama's 11 house
Mama's Mercury in Papa's 3 house
Papa's Mercury in Mama's 7 house
Mama's Venus in Papa's 1 house
Papa's Venus in Mama's 9 house
Mama's Mars in Papa's 12 house
Papa's Mars in Mama's 5 house
Mama's Jupiter in Papa's 7 house
Papa's Jupiter in Mama's 9 house
Mama's Saturn in Papa's 1 house
Papa's Saturn in Mama's 4 house
Mama's Uranus in Papa's 10 house
Papa's Uranus in Mama's 12 house
Mama's Neptune in Papa's 2 house
Papa's Neptune in Mama's 5 house
Mama's Pluto in Papa's 11 house
Papa's Pluto in Mama's 3 house
Mama's Moon square Papa's Uranus orb 3° 35'
Mama's Mercury square Papa's Pluto orb 4° 39'
Mama's Mars trine Papa's Mercury orb 4° 59'
Mama's Mars conjunct Papa's Saturn orb 4° 57'
Mama's Jupiter opposition Papa's Mars orb 3° 13'
Mama's Jupiter square Papa's Uranus orb 4° 22'
Mama's Saturn trine Papa's Sun orb 3° 36'
Mama's Saturn trine Papa's Jupiter orb 3° 22'
Mama's Uranus opposition Papa's Mercury orb 4° 52'
Mama's Uranus square Papa's Mars orb 4° 39'
Mama's Uranus square Papa's Neptune orb 3° 22'
Mama's Neptune sextile Papa's Pluto orb 2° 31'
Mama's Mars conjunct Papa's Ascendant orb 4° 15'
Mama's Ascendant conjunct Papa's Uranus orb 4° 57'
* * * End of Report * * *

their composite:

They donīt have a love stellium (though their love has been going strong for as long as I can remember, and they are actually still holding hands when taking a walk. lol), but they have Moon sesisquare Venus and Sun trine Pluto.

posted September 29, 2012 12:22 AM            

The composite has moon in negative aspect to venus and sun trine pluto which would lead to caring feelings and the synastry shows that they do have fun together and find it very enjoyable to talk to each other.

But with composite moon being conjunct uranus, did they have trouble staying together at the beginning of their relationship?

To be honest, the composite inclines me to believe that even though they get along well and share affection, that they are not as close as some other relationships might be.

posted September 29, 2012 04:49 AM            

They met in a discotheque and spending most of the evening discussing political events (the Vietnam war as my mom said), met some more times and got together very quickly, even though they had been involved with other people. Well, my Dad had actually been engaged, but after meeting my mom he practically instantly broke up with his fiancee.
And they`ve been together from that point on, married two years later and haven`t spent a single night apart from each other except for the 6 weeks my Dad had to go abroad for his job.

posted September 29, 2012 07:05 AM            

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But with composite moon being conjunct uranus, did they have trouble staying together at the beginning of their relationship?

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Well, my Dad had actually been engaged, but after meeting my mom he practically instantly broke up with his fiancee.

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posted September 29, 2012 08:20 AM            

Besides, they both need a bit of Uranus, as my Dad has Sun, Venus, Jupiter in Aquarius, and my Mom has Uranus in 1st house.
I doubt that any composite or synastry that doesn`t reflect this would have worked for either.

Interestingly my dad even failed to mention he had been engaged and broken that engagement (my Mom learned it from my grandmother), he said he thought it wasn`t that important, as it was in the past.

I sometimes feel a bit sorry for that other woman though.
Oh and he stayed in contact with that other woman through letters for a while, as they had been good friends I think. He claims it was a totally innocent platonic penpal friendship after the break up of the engagement, and he didnīt think it was that important to mention it to my mum.
Well, she eventually found some letters of that other woman and being a Scorpio did not think of it as all that innocent, esp. since he hadnīt told her about it.

Well, he stopped the conversation with that other woman and that was it.
It was just such an Aquarian thing to stay good friend with his ex without thinking much more of it.

posted September 29, 2012 09:09 AM            

I mean i can see how there would be feelings there with composite Sun trine pluto and comp moon in negative aspect to venus, but I always thought you needed composite sun conjunct venus or conjunct jupiter to make it solid.

posted September 29, 2012 09:50 AM            

plus Jupiter in Pisces in 8th house trines Juno in Scorpio in 4th house exact.

Eros conjunct Amor in Pisces with Amor being conjunct NN.

posted September 29, 2012 09:53 AM            

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Originally posted by LionFish:
Don't feel sorry for her! Yes, she was left for another woman. But better that than to be strung along while your father pined for his Uranian love with your mother

IMO Aquarians need somebody with a strong Uranus placement to make them comfortable, otherwise they may feel weird or awkward in relation to their SO because lover = best friend to them first and foremost.

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Yes, I think that is so true.
And in my parents case, they fit each other like hand in glove, also because they both have strong Uranian and Plutonian features in their charts. It is really not easy to blance out that Uranus-Pluto vibe, and they have it both.

As a matter of fact I guess I inherited it from them.
So it is safe to say that any man for me needs to resonate with Uranus AND Pluto. DEtached and intense. Talk about contradictions there. lol

posted September 29, 2012 10:36 AM            

The only aspect between composite Moon and Venus was an exact biquintile.

posted September 29, 2012 12:15 PM            

And what a sweet, lovely, yet heartbreaking story.

in my parents composite Agapenor is trine Mars exact and sextile Amor exact.

posted September 29, 2012 04:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Aeline:
My grandparents loved each other for more than 50 years so much that he couldn't live without her when she passed away and ended up dying 3 months later, previously going to the cemetery everyday, in cold and snow.

The only aspect between composite Moon and Venus was an exact biquintile.

Sun was conjunct Mercury, Pluto. Mercury trined Jupiter exact, Sun was quincunx Venus, and Moon squared Mars. The only aspect Saturn made, was a sesquisquare to Mercury, and a wide (4degrees) conjunction to South Node. So i don't know if that Moon-Venus aspect could be responsible for their endless love.

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Well, that is the love stellium, with sun conjunct pluto, what do you expect.

posted September 30, 2012 01:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Aeline:
My grandparents loved each other for more than 50 years so much that he couldn't live without her when she passed away and ended up dying 3 months later, previously going to the cemetery everyday, in cold and snow.

The only aspect between composite Moon and Venus was an exact biquintile.

Sun was conjunct Mercury, Pluto. Mercury trined Jupiter exact, Sun was quincunx Venus, and Moon squared Mars. The only aspect Saturn made, was a sesquisquare to Mercury, and a wide (4degrees) conjunction to South Node. So i don't know if that Moon-Venus aspect could be responsible for their endless love.

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posted September 30, 2012 01:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Aeline could I start a new thread (I don't want to barge in on Ceriwen's thread.) about your grandparents? I'd love to see their synastry and composites. Or if you would post their birth info, that would be even better. It's like the ideal relationship and the bar that I'd love to compare my relatioships to. hehe

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