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andstuff
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posted October 02, 2012 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, as PhoenixFire said at some point my past lover turned up out of the blue, confusing the hell out of me.

I have spent quite a while crying and trying to understand why this had to happen. Just when I came to understand I was ok with living my life and letting past stay in the past.

I have been through everything on his account. Spilling alcohol over my feet, falling off the bike at 3am, getting random heartaches and especially guilt feelings as I thought things falling apart between us spurred him on to ruin his life and become a total wreck.

What should I do? Should I try and help him now to deal with his emotional crap and possibly worse? He hinted he's feeling as good as dead inside, is this permanent? Is this my fault? He used to be really talented - can I do anything to help him without sending my own life down the drain? What does he want from me?

If anyone could spare a little bit of time to give me a reading or something? I'd be happy with astrological interps too, will post whatever charts may be required

Thank you very much in advance, hopefully I'll be able to offer Tarot in exchange if my emotional state allows this.

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flowerpower
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posted October 02, 2012 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flowerpower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Andstuff, I am giving it a try.

Question: What should Andstuff do ?
Cards: Three of Pentacles and Knight of Cups
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn42/Aceofcups11/Tarot%20-%20Pentacles/Pentacles3.jpg
http://justaskjudee.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Knight-of-Cups.jpg

The second card could be about yourself, specially as you asked for an advice, but it could be about your ex-lover. But from your post I tend to believe it is about you.

If it is about him, perhaps he is being egocentric or taking things too personally ? Well in this case I would not know how to interpret both cards.

I understand this is about a learning path about working together in relationships and about love. You need to identify your weak points and learn from them, develop new skills that will become your future foundation, and plan and use creatively your knowledge you have in practical terms now. At the same time, listen to your heart and your higher self, and be honest to yourself. You can be kind to him and give him love without expecting anything back. Pursue your own dreams, but be aware of illusions.

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love being Aries
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posted October 03, 2012 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for love being Aries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
andstuff

I have been through this, am actually going through this right now. My ex lovers, all of them, have returned in my life all at once but here is what it is, NO, you should bury past in past. If these people are in your past, there is a reason why they did not make it to your present or your future. as matter of fact, I have realized that the minute you start being happy & living your life, something or someone from past definitely pops up. its like these people will never let you be happy. but you should take it as a sign that "its happening only because m on my happiness track" & move on. No do not blame yourself for anything happening to him. He is responsible for that. Do Not accept him back or even reply his messages or anything at all . if you are meant to be with him or help him in anyway, universe will think of a way to exactly throw him in your path, but do not CHOOSE him.

Just my thoughts + what I have been going through when all my ex lovers started messaging me again after years

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posted October 03, 2012 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flowerpower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After reading justbeingaries post, I realize I wasn't very clear - let me just add, that frankly, in my interpretation, I did not mean "give him love" as go back to him. I saw giving love as a possibility with this card -
but it doesn't have to be in a relationship-way, it could be, but doesn't have to be. It is more in the sense of compassion - for example as opposed to hate him or despise him :-)It can be through your thoughts, or through the way you respond when he contacts you, etc.

Anyway, again, Im still in the very tarot basics.

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posted October 03, 2012 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi andstuff,


Thank you for the feedback, though I am sorry for this confusion w Alex returning. Has he clarified what he is expecting.. Friendship or love? I could read for you this evening to see what shows up. I do lean towards Aries experiences, as usually past loves do come up once we decide to move on. Do you feel there is purpose/lessons for you w Alex in your life?

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andstuff
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posted October 04, 2012 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PhoenixFire:
Hi andstuff,


Thank you for the feedback, though I am sorry for this confusion w Alex returning. Has he clarified what he is expecting.. Friendship or love? I could read for you this evening to see what shows up. I do lean towards Aries experiences, as usually past loves do come up once we decide to move on. Do you feel there is purpose/lessons for you w Alex in your life?


Morning K,

Good you saw this, should have considered letting you know personally

Thanks for your offer, I'd be delighted to do an exchange as a matter of fact if you wish

I am suspecting he wants compassion and human warmth at the very least, definitely a lot of attention to his problems. I often think the purpose of his presence in my life is to make me scared of scenarios in which I have to sleep with someone else I have no feelings for and remember/regret how good we used to have it.

Until recently it was - no one can take my past away from me, and there's no guarantee the future will ever offer anything remotely comparable, I didn't care. Then I kind of realised he might have not been what I wanted anyway, he lacked vibes, fiery energy, whatever else, so I just thought "if I was the only one who made it all happen, I don't really have to regret anything, since it's all within me and has nothing to do with him". Seriously, it seems I wrote a screenplay and let him act it out, I was creating situations which made me believe he was actually doing things, but it was an illusion, and a well-crafted one too, seeing I got taken in myself

But he brought my fears back, I'm back to dreading to think of my future, to think I will never be happy properly or find anyone I could really dig. Which also annoys me, as if he was trying to obtain some emotional comfort at my expense

Not a cool situation at all.....

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andstuff
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posted October 04, 2012 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by love being Aries:
andstuff

I have been through this, am actually going through this right now. My ex lovers, all of them, have returned in my life all at once but here is what it is, NO, you should bury past in past. If these people are in your past, there is a reason why they did not make it to your present or your future. as matter of fact, I have realized that the minute you start being happy & living your life, something or someone from past definitely pops up. its like these people will never let you be happy. but you should take it as a sign that "its happening only because m on my happiness track" & move on. No do not blame yourself for anything happening to him. He is responsible for that. Do Not accept him back or even reply his messages or anything at all . if you are meant to be with him or help him in anyway, universe will think of a way to exactly throw him in your path, but do not CHOOSE him.

Just my thoughts + what I have been going through when all my ex lovers started messaging me again after years


hey LBA,

yeah I remember doing a reading for you about this if I remember right

there is always a possibility that future is not gonna offer anything better, this is what makes me scared if you know what I mean

because the universe may well choose to give me plump blond 35 year olds for the rest of my life. perhaps it will decide I'm only good enough for late-blooming idiots or worse still 30+ virgins. if the universe wants this, surely I have the right not to pick this rubbish up.... this is what I find annoying, really

[having said that, been lately eyed by a boy who looked like syd barrett]

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PhoenixFire
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posted October 08, 2012 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi andstuff,


Sorry for the delayed response, I wanted to be totally centered for the reading to hopefully be more in tune w the situation.

The cards: 7 of wands, page of wands, king of swords, king of wands, the devil, the chariot, judgement, page of swords, 6 of cups. Clarification card: 8 of swords how to proceed: death likely outcome: 2 of cups.

My overall feeling is that the news of Alex shook your balance, as you were feeling confident about being past the relationship and healing was taking place. You felt like a victor who comes home after fighting a heroic battle and triumphs over the horrors of war.

In this case the emotional war of the turbulence involved in loving a person with many inner demons & addictions (the devil). Perhaps a bit of obsession and control as well. You felt the chains of the past to be vast off, and had set your eyes on a different type for future love interests, a personality completely opposite of Alex.

With the return of Alex, things have come tumbling down as you feel uncertain over the direction in which to go and unsure if your emotions can handle being in touch (the chariot).

Alex it seems feels there is still hope for you both together and sees you as a muse, inspiration to help him out of his own personal hell. He feels that together the demons can be defeated, without really considering what toll this would take on you.

His vision is narrowed on on what he feels, which is that you are the only one who understands and knows him... The pull of karma is strong, and he feels you are the one person to whom he will always return long as he may.

It feels like there is still unsettled connections between you, and life has brought him back as a chance to clear things up, to free you from the past. The past continues to haunt you both on an unconscious level, and in order to reap the rewards of total transformation a confrontation w the emotional ghosts is being called for.

However you decide to proceed, he will continue to try and return until absolute closure is met by both. Once all the unsaid is said, and the repressed thoughts/feelings released, the purpose for having met will be very clear and moving on without regrets within reach.

The two of cups brings the reward of peace, coming to terms w the past, being all the better for learning lessons and being truly free.

Hope this makes sense, it was my impressions/feelings. If not, please disregard I wish you all the best and will keep you in my thoughts.

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