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EmpressMendez
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posted October 08, 2012 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's hard for me to read this chart. I'm Mercury in Scorpio. He's Jupiter rx detriment and in the 10th house. He's only aspecting the sun. Sun at fall in Libra, Venus in fall Virgo in the 12th house. If it's me, Idk why I'm in the 12th house since he clearly knows exactly how I feel about him. Could that be someone else? He has a gf by the way.

There's a sextile between Venus and Merc. applying by 2. Is this a yes or a no? I notice the square between the sun and moon is separating.

Venus and Jupiter like Mercury. Sun likes Venus..

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posted October 08, 2012 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pussycat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi EmpressMendez!
I'm still learning so i can't really answer..but how is he jupiter?
shouldn't he be uranus?since uranus is in the 7th house?

I 'm probably wrong but i think you are mercury (ruler of virgo-ascedent) and also sun and saturn because they are in the same house.

PLus you have moon as a co-significator and jupiter because they are in the same house. I don't think you are venus.

But i really don't know...i might be completely wrong:S
maybe someone will help to figure out things and answer your question

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posted October 08, 2012 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pussycat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm also thinking that he is venus in 12th in the same sign as your asc-which is probably a good thing!

Venus makes an applying sextile to Mercury(you) so maybe the answer of your question is yes..

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posted October 08, 2012 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He is Jupiter, because the ruler of the 7th house represents the quesited. In horaries between man and woman, the man is also represented by the Sun.

The querent is always signified by the ruler of the ASC, Mercury; co-significator Moon.
And in man-woman horaries usually also represented by Venus.

His main ruler is ruled by Mercury, so very much ruled by you. I guess he DOES like you. But since Jupiter is retograde, he is having second thoughts, doubts or withdraws.

Sun is ruled by Venus, and if Venus is representing you (It seems that sometimes Venus is representing the querent, and sometimes it is the girlfriend of the quesited.).
Anyway, whoever Venus is representing, he feels strongly attracted to her.
In the case it is NOT you, but the girlfriend, it makes sense that she ends up in your 12th house, where you can`t really see her or would like not to.
On the other hand if Venus represents you, it is interesting that she is in the fall of Jupiter. Doesn`t look like the feelings for Jupiter are all that easy.


however there is no aspects between your significators. Looks like a period of standstill and reorientation (esp with retro Jupiter).

Moon is also void of course, so I`d say, nothing`s going to chance in the next time.

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posted October 08, 2012 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks pussycat . He's Jupiter ruler of Pisces (7th house) count from the ascendant to 7th .

Cerid, the moon is void? Really? But it makes aspects. I thought the moon was void when it didn't make any aspects at all. So confusing, lol.

Yes, I know nothing can or will happen between us. Last year we talked about our feelings for each other, but pf course we were both in long term deeply committed relationships. He hinted off he wanted "something" with me, but I declined.

Ever since we have just kept things friendly. Until Last week (Wednesday I think) where he was acting very, very weird with me. He started telling me how he can't go a day without talking to me and how much he missed me (he hadn't signed on for a week or so). He told me he was planning on being off for 3 weeks, but couldn't go through with it.

He even said he was going to come visit me when I told him I didn't believe this was him due to the strange and flirtatious way he was acting, lol.

At the time, I thought his gf was jealous and just sent me the message to see what I would say. Lol..idk. But he insisted it was him...maybe I should have told him to call me. Didn't occur to me at the time.

I was thinking since the 12th house includes secrets, which one would be his 12th house in this horary?

Venus in the 12th house is pretty weird. I've known about his gf for years. He told me she would get jealous when we talked since he always had the biggest crush on me and of course she knows that. I remember we saw each other one time and said hi. She immediately knew who I was and didn't seem too fond of me, hehe.

After I saw her a bit later her bf calls me..lol. I guess she told him he saw me. He sounded really happy to speak to me since we hadn't spoke to one another in a while..

But idk what to think of this horary. It confuses me....

Ps - The reason why I'm asking if he's hiding his feelings from me is because I keep asking him why he was acting so weird. He hasn't really given me an answer. I want him to tell me he still likes me, or something..lol.I know he had a huge crush on me in the past, but I don't think he still does (even when he did, I still didn't really think he did. When he told me I was a bit surprised. I knew he liked me, but not as much as he claimed to me that he did. But I can see now that he really did. It's like his whole family knows who I am. Lol)

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posted October 08, 2012 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe Venus in there is telling me it was his gf talking to me on Wed. And not him?? I know that wasn't the horary question, but that's the vibe I'm getting lol

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posted October 08, 2012 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think my 5th is his 12th ruled by Saturn..

Venus is in his 7th house would be his gf. Clearly he's in love with her and wouldn't do anything to ruin that.

Saturn exalted in Libra conjunct Merc. but separating probably show that he isn't hiding his feelings from me, and that we both know. But he won't act on them (neither would I) due to his gf. The sextile between Venus and Merc show that she sees me as a threat (Mercury..being me indicates we talk to each other a lot and she's jealous?)

I think that makes sense,,right? Lol

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posted October 08, 2012 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Emperess,

no the Moon doesn`t make any more applying aspects before leaving sign. It is a rare occasion, only in the middle of the sign and yet no more aspects to come before leaving sign. Though you might still feel the aftermath of the square to Sun as it JUST has happened.

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posted October 08, 2012 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
since he is represented by the 7th house, HIS 12th house would be the 6th house of the horary chart.

Your 5th house is actually his 11th house (his hopes and wishes maybe).


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posted October 08, 2012 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought the 7th house (mine) was his 1st? If I count that as 1st, my 12th becomes his 7th..or are you saying my 6th is really his 7th? I was counting the signs..hmm

Idk about sun sq moon..we just finished talking. Everything seems ok

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posted October 08, 2012 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
7th is his 1st,
8th is his 2nd
9th is his 3rd
10th is his 4th
11th is his 5th
12th is his 6th
1st is his 7th
2nd is his 8th
3rd is his 9th
4th is his 10th
5th is his 11th
6th is his 12th

(Saturn rules his 12th anyway, as Saturn is the traditional ruler of Aquarius)

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posted October 08, 2012 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you see where Pisces sign is? If I count that as his 1st, then where Venus is becomes his 7th. Otherwise it doesn't add up to me. Yes, his 12th is ruled by Saturn (that's how I counted it)

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posted October 08, 2012 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I see it.


The house ALWAYS starts at the cusp, not the beginning of the sign. And Venus is BEFORE the ASC or his 7th house cusp, as his 7th house starts with 12 Virgo and stretches to 6 Libra, where your 2nd/ his 8th house starts.

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posted October 08, 2012 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh! So that's what a cusp is
Thanks for clearing that up

So, then who the heck is venus lol

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