posted October 17, 2012 10:29 AM            

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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
Happy Birthday again dear!!

Lol. I was just gonna post and ask if you wanna get your solar return chart done!! Hehe.. but of course, i have no idea how this is done.

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haha well thank you for caring

posted October 17, 2012 03:53 PM            

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Originally posted by virgolotus:
Sorry I can't offer a reading cuz I'm still a noob. Venus is right on your DSC OOOOHHHH~

Happy Birthday, though!!

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haha its ok i just hope someone will read it evetually

posted October 18, 2012 08:18 PM            

I often have trouble with losing a post, so yes, this is a second attempt, so a good chance to tone down what I write.

Each time I begin the analysis, I find it hard to steer off Pluto, Mars, Jupiter. Jupiter is in a strong/fast retrograde, so Pluto is still in a quincunx, and Mars still feeling the effects of an opposition.

The end of March will be significant, about the 30th. Then too, the Moon will be back in Scorpio, and Sun, Venus, and Mars will be conjunct Uranus in Aries, and though Mars will be about 13*, most of the rest of the chart will be in aspect to one another in the 9*-11*. Moon will be conjunct Saturn, and even Chiron will be in on the transits falling in those degrees.

Hence it will be a significant universal time and I tried to find your natal chart, but couldn't, so can not see the interplay between the SR, the natal, and the playing out of the transits over the coming year.

The Pluto, Mars, Jupiter mix in SR, will play out as a maturing influence spread across your general dedicated focuses - as in where you are putting a lot of effort into. You are finding a balance that sits right for you to move forward with, and this balance incorporates, appearance, temperament, skill, ideology and morals (Jupiter is in square to the ascendant and Venus and quincunx Mercury, as well as affecting the other planets by the strong fast retrograde).

I remember you said you had some extra weight on, well this is the sensation I get - it is like you are getting bigger, but trimming down on the inside, I think by your next birthday, you will be a bigger guy but fitter - maybe you will be body building because it is like you are enlarging but getting leaner - and I think you mentioned somewhere that you work out sometimes. Anyway, it fits with the sensation.

The attention stealer of the chart is definitely Venus on the DSC as virgolotus has already highlighted. This has two effects, you will become more attractive and you will have the opportunity to be involved with what you see as attractive people. With the Jupiter, Venus, Mercury combo and their placement by degree, sign and house, this presents to me an image of a couple of possible 'roommates'. However, although initial attraction may be based for you on looks and manner, if they don't cut it intellectually overtime you can end up feeling them as a burden. There is also money involved and so this could indicate, feelings that others might be free loading, but perhaps if you look at it this is two way. One of the 'roomies' comes from a wealthy family, they almost feel like a twin as I initially thought they were male, but now feel a distinctive female feel. I don't understand it. Anyway, they tend not to worry about the details financially as they are not hung up on money, so they can look like they don't pay their share, however, this is a trap, the time span is too short to even out, they don't care about trivialities, because in the scheme of things, this is the type of person to suddenly give you and others some you beaut opportunity of a week in summer at like some house by the sea or something. So they tend not to worry about the little things but you will find that they pay back in bucket folds in the long term. If you get there nose out of joint, they can have far reaching animosity and this is connected to the Neptune-Chiron conjunction in the 12th. Not necessarily will they take outward revenge, more so perhaps, you will never live it down to yourself for the most part. So, I'm not advocating some one walk all over you, or send you broke, but I am suggesting that you lengthen your pay back schedule and be open to their generosity over the longer term. Though you may have to keep that opportunity 'under your hat' (god what is it with you and hats, lol) - and watch for it to unfold. I don't know, maybe it is even a sister, that has connections - I can't place it so it is probably complex, not to be clarified for some reason, and has a combination of people and events involved.

You will also be an agony aunt, mainly for females, and sorry to say....I think you are going to fall for a gal - and she is so fripperous and seemingly shallow, but god she is smart, and cute. There is an 'am or em' sound perhaps in her name, so names that are close but not it, are ameline, samantha, amethyst, and I'm thinking a Leo-Pisces mix with a little Mercury thrown in. If I were to guess the placements, I would say Leo Sun,Moon in Pisces, Rising is Sag/Pisces maybe, Mercury in Virgo, Venus in Gemini, Mars in Cancer - but that will surely be wrong, that's a wild guess.

Saturn trine Neptune, from the 8th to the 12th, along with rulerships and houses, says awards and possibly a shake up of peers/groups like a shuffle that puts you in a totally different place that you don't like at first but will prove pretty strong for you. Saturn and Pluto are in mutual reception and Neptune ruling the ASC is at 0*. It is like you are breaking out from having leg braces on. Like I see the leg braces coming off - it is scary at first but you will increase your confidence. Your legs are powerful - I think I mentioned before that they could do jumps. Its probably linked to the Sag stuff in your natal, or is it 9th house - can't remember. Anyway, you will be slow to become accustomed to the removal of the 'braces' but bit by bit, with a few back slides thrown in, you will take off. Not sure what that will be pertaining to specifically. I don't think they are teeth braces - though they might be, but it looks like probably metaphorical leg braces.

BTW, last time I attempted this, I saw that you will likely get some successful dental work done, so there is something dental, but can't remember where I saw it now. Probably in the aspecting of Venus, Mercury, Jupiter to the ASC, ruled by Neptune in the 12th, and Jupiter here in the 3rd.

There was also something about potential for blisters. That I think is in the Uranus, Mars, Pluto configuration.

Also possiblity of being involved in protests, where by you are one of the key organisers, go-to people. The protests should remain amicable though there is a propensity for you to overlook what the issues actually are as it is echoing something deeper from you past to do with racial/religious/ideological triggers. So the indication is to keep a perspective on your own hurts so that you don't overlook the real issues that others are telling you, otherwise they may come back to you saying well you made such and such worse. I don't know, I'd tell them to shove it and go work out their own woes, but you sound more diplomatic and supportive than me.

posted October 19, 2012 12:36 AM            

*i do work out and planning to get stronger since im pretty thin (my opinion)

*i do hope im more attractive than usuall as my libra sun starts to demand relationship and i must pull them

*for the record...i like men...so do all those "falling in love with woman" or "getting close to woman" interpretations would actaully change to men?

*about legs....i do have strong legs...and im getting orthopedit aids becuse of my flat feet so after i get them il be able to walk normally and lose the back pain

il write more soon but take notive of what i said

posted October 19, 2012 07:42 AM            

I di belive it will be very uncomfortable at first but i belive that it will contribute to my personal development

posted October 20, 2012 07:10 AM            

Yeah I knew you liked chaps. Anyway, SR Venus square natal MC is another important falling in love in a big way indication, hope that comes true for you if that's what you would like to happen.

And, I'm sure you are attractive anyway, it seems like just an extra bonus your way that's all.

posted October 20, 2012 07:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Chryseis:
Hi Doommlord, I keep getting side tracked or have been working.

Yeah I knew you liked chaps. Anyway, SR Venus square natal MC is another important falling in love in a big way indication, hope that comes true for you if that's what you would like to happen.

And, I'm sure you are attractive anyway, it seems like just an extra bonus your way that's all.

Good luck, and best wishes for the year ahead.

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Awww thank you so much

I just wanted to know if the interpretation works for gays too cause im aware thar many readers use some planets or placement to determine relationship to a specific gender (mars and venus for example)

Do you work at reading chart?
Cause what you have here is quite the amazing talent
Few are the people i saw that were able to make such deep and informative interpretations and i feel blessed as i you made SEVERAL of those for me :-)

posted October 20, 2012 06:22 PM            

Yeah, I was going to go into the whole venus not always representing a female thing but scrapped it. I know how sensitive gays are if girls are mentioned to be other than friends or icons of fashion/beauty etc.

Actually, in your natal chart it looks like a relationship with a female is present when you are about 36 and a child will be a result. I think it will be a love relationship too.

Venus and Sun in square to Moon in these areas of the chart, talks about intimacy preferences/dilemmas. But with the strong T-square involving uranus and neptune - this is where the preference for same gender is indicated for you.

But...Saturn in your first is very influential in your chart, and it throws a spanner in the works. Please don't take offence, but the dynamic involving the t-square and the interaction with first Saturn - is like umm...and a big but....then throw in the Mars/Pluto into the mix of all these planets in aspect...and what it amounts to is like an extraordinary sexuality. Initially the effect of making you the 'soft' male feel that I found, kind of results in the male push within a guy being stemmed. However, there is a playing out of a process of development involving Saturn. And after the initial 'softness', then its like your maleness finds a niche and there's no stopping this side to you. I'm not saying gays are all 'soft' males, I think someone could be a 'soft' male heterosexual too - the 'softness' would be apparent in something like your assertiveness in external interactions being mellowed.

Anyway, as I was saying, over time this initial softness is going to be a powerful strength and it will transform as it finds its footing - I would imagine ghandi would have a similar interplay of these planetary effects - I'll have to have a look. There it is, well even more in common than I thought, same sun, moon, venus, mars signs, but yes an interaction on similar degrees between Mars, Pluto, Jupiter, Saturn and Neptune. He didn't have gay in his chart, not to me, but he did tend to prefer cows over women,lol, he had a bit of a big drive inherent in his chart to aquire wealth in the form of cattle and he was hindu anyway so cows were sacred.

Anyhow, somehow there is a combination of factors, number 1, you will attract a certain amount of women by your quiet inherent and not 'in your face' kind of strength, and secondly you are susceptible to some of the 'ploys' of the female creature, and this is found in a psychological phenomena within the Jupiter-Saturn which is like some kind of conditioning that is difficult to override - its like certain values are ingrained genetically and somehow breasts equate to having food and offspring - but in of course men can cook and provide food, though somehow this conditioning that I picture has breasts almost metaphorically being the tray for the bread, chuckle, - damn ingrained stuff!.

Neptune and Saturn are in mutual reception in the natal. Neptune is working hard to incorporate all possibilities and be non-judgemental with self and others and a big contributor in the 'softness'. Saturn meanwhile is having this ongoing argument with Mars (and Pluto is still influencing this despite the orb), and despite the trine. Probably because Pluto is co-ruling the 9th and holds general sway over the planets in the 9th. Anyway, the argument is tied up with 'mother' and as I think I said in the natal, you probably have some debates with your mother.

So 'mother' is a thorn in your side. You have some angst slowly escalating over the whole issue of parenting tied up with the involvement of at least one woman and their womb, so you will debate issues like surrogacy, adoption, same sex couples having children etc.

You have it within you to be a father/authority/teacher to a child and impart your wisdom etc as your contribution to putting someone into the world that will be a good person and this is tied up in that Jupiter-Saturn mix with the breasts giving the food and the offspring. This has a past life connection, and it feels like a mix of hebrew/and a type of christian sect education. Actually, three times, one around the mid 1100s in the Sudan, the other around 1680s-1712 or something in Pakistan, and a more recent interlude around 1899-1916 very near to your birth place, in fact you have current relatives in common. These are the prominent times that have been highlighted. I don't understand past lives very well, but if I get an indication, and look into it then there usually is a theme present.

So when you are, well I think it is strong at 27-28 and then begins influencing again around 34, so I am suspecting it is a transit from Saturn that is causing the effect. And it seems to be when Saturn is on the degree 7-8* and this seems to be due partly to being in aspect to Venus, but also there is another reason and it is a point that feels like an arabic part or a midpoint. That's right, there was a significant point opposing Venus. It is kind of like a debt/tax collector hanging around your house, but it is an aspect of yourself - I can see the persona of this point having a black hat and coat - almost like an undertaker - and this archetype is a big part of you as I have seen images that look like you are dressed similarly - as I said before - what is it with you and hats - and funnily enough the hat is sort of a top hat - hence me originally talking of the madhatter's tea party - gosh, I just had a thrill of excitement to investigate these matters - something very interesting will surface and the story will probably unfold over time as I feel there is much to tell you.

Well, I think I have become suitably side tracked in many directions.

No I don't work as a reader, but as a nurse. Reading is hobby for me. I channel though, and have studied astrology, but because it comes down to my interpretation of things, and there are other factors too, I sure can stuff it up so its best not to take things on as definites. I also have a tendency to be blunt, or shocking in some of what I say, and I can feel all the dramatics from the sidelines of this site, however, with what I write, I tend to think if its there to see, then something can be said about it, as I have an innate faith in what is presented to me.

I had a feeling this SR thread of yours had some other stuff connected to it. If you want me to delve into the past lives/or whatever it is, I can give it a go.

posted October 21, 2012 12:29 AM            

Sun is not square to venus natally btw

Although i thought about relationships with woman i have came to the conclusion that only men interest me sexually so i dont belive il marry one

Also kids are a no-go for me at this time but i dont know if it will change

posted October 21, 2012 02:26 AM            

that's correct venus is not square sun natally.

Yeah, with the confusion, I missed an explanation about the 27-28 and 34-36 thing, I don't know what the point opposite Venus is.

posted October 21, 2012 10:02 AM            

i dont understand what connection i would have with hats as i dont wear hats due to the horrible look they give me

i also have no idea about my connection to ghandi....while i feel some strange familiarity with him :O

im still surprised by any sexual connection to a woman XD but il keep my mind open to anything you post

posted October 22, 2012 12:25 AM            

Maybe don't worry about the whole women thing.

Also, I was looking back into the past lives thing over this morning and I was trying to be really accurate and detailed. In the end, I was becoming tired and over it - I think I was placing myself under too much pressure. Because I don't really know if it is correct or even real, I thought it might be best not to bother with it. I think I was trying too hard to be careful with the reading and realize it is a massive task. I probably could have summarised it down just to a few ideas but there's probably no point.

The ghandi thing came about because he sort of came to mind when I was looking at the placements and traits of your chart. Then when I actually looked at Ghandi's, I noticed the similar placements etc. So I wasn't setting out to tell you that you have some connection to Ghandi