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Astro keen
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posted November 19, 2012 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the chart. I am on the inside. I've also posted other planet placements and aspects for you to look at.

Re aspects to 5th, 7th, and 8th house - My partner has no planets in these houses, whilst I have a moon in the 7th. The moon in 7th house has many aspects with his planets - conjunct Moon, opp Sun, square Asc. So, this as you said tend to generate strong attraction.

Would there be anything else with regard to symbol matching (I'm afraid there was too much info for me to take on board).

Re house relations: my aqua 7th seems to be conjunct his aqua 3rd and opposite his virgo 9th. Is that correct? If so, what would the significance be?

Any insights from you would be great.

This is mine:
Sun Scorpio 1°35'22 in house 3
Moon Aquarius 22°15'51 in house 7
Mercury Libra 13°57'29 in house 3
Venus Scorpio 15°55'08 in house 4
Mars Libra 7°53'53 in house 3
Jupiter Leo 27°17'35 in house 1
Saturn Scorpio 21°11'34 in house 4
Uranus Leo 2°15'07 in house 12
Neptune Libra 28°06'48 in house 3
Pluto Leo 28°17'15 in house 1
True Node Sagittarius 18°28'25 in house 5

His:
Sun Leo 17°39'17 in house 9
Moon Aquarius 18°03'03 in house 3
Mercury Virgo 14°51'18 in house 10
Venus Virgo 18°39'27 in house 10
Mars Virgo 1°29'25 in house 9
Jupiter Libra 0°37'56 in house 10
Saturn Sagittarius 7°41'01 in house 1 stationary (D)
Uranus Leo 7°57'20 in house 9
Neptune Scorpio 0°03'43 end of house 11
Pluto Leo 29°43'10 in house 9
True Node Scorpio 14°50'37 in house 12 retrograde

Rather a long list I'm afraid. These are my planets aspecting with his.

Sun Sextile Mars 0.10
Sun Square Uranus 6.37
Sun Conjunction Neptune 1.53
Sun Sextile Pluto 1.87
Moon Opposition Sun 4.61
Moon Conjunction Moon 4.21
Moon Quincunx Venus 3.61
Moon Square Ascend
Mercury Sextile Sun 3.70
Mercury Trine Moon 4.09
Mercury Trine Chiron 0.70
Venus Square Sun 1.74
Venus Square Moon 2.13
Venus Sextile Mercury 1.06
Venus Sextile Venus 2.74
Venus Square Chiron 1.27
Venus Conjunction True Node 1.08
Venus Conjunction Ascendant
Mars Sextile Saturn 0.21
Mars Sextile Uranus 0.06
Mars Quincunx Lilith 0.58
Mars Trine P. of For 1.66
Mars Sextile Ascend 2.06
Jupiter Conjunction Mars 4.20
Jupiter Sextile Neptune 2.77
Jupiter Conjunction Pluto 2.43
Saturn Square Sun 3.54
Saturn Square Moon 3.14
Saturn Sextile Venus 2.54
Saturn Square Vertex 2.08
Uranus Sextile Jupiter 1.62
Uranus Trine Saturn 5.43
Uranus Conjunction Uranus 5.70
Uranus Square Neptune 2.19
Uranus Trine Ascend 3.59
Neptune Sextile Mars 3.38
Neptune Conjunction Neptune 1.95
Neptune Sextile Pluto 1.61
Pluto Conjunction Mars 3.20
Pluto Sextile Neptune 1.77
Pluto Conjunction Pluto 1.43
Ascendant Conjunction Sun 4.90
Ascendant Opposition Moon 5.30
Ascendant Trine Saturn 5.07
Ascendant Conjunction Uranus 4.80
Ascendant Opposition Chiron 1.90
Ascendant Square True Node 2.09
Midheaven Quincunx Saturn 0.29
Midheaven Square Uranus 0.02
Midheaven Sextile Lilith 0.50
Midheaven Quincunx Ascendant 2.13
Midheaven Trine Midheaven 0.72
True Node Trine Sun 0.82
True Node Sextile Moon 0.42
True Node Square Venus 0.18
True Node Trine Vertex 0.64
True Node Square Mercury 3.37
Vertex Trine Sun 1.05
Vertex Sextile Moon 1.44
Vertex Square Mercury 1.75
Vertex Square Venus 2.05
Vertex Sextile Chiron 1.95
Vertex Trine Vertex 2.51

Sorry, such a lot here.

Thanks a lot.

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Lotis White
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posted November 19, 2012 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll take a look when I get the chance. It could take a few days though.

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posted November 21, 2012 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Astro Keen,

First, I’m going to start out with an analysis of the SYMBOLISM MATCHING between the two of you. Each person’s 5th (Romantic Sparks), 7th (Partnership and affection), and 8th (Intimacy and Trust) house describes their ‘type’ in terms of what personality traits, and qualities they are attracted to.

In your case, you have Aquarius on the 7th house cusp ruled by Uranus in Leo, Sagittarius on the 5th house cusp ruled by Jupiter in Leo, and Pisces on the 8th house cusp ruled by Neptune in Libra.

Your partner matches your symbolism quite strongly. His Sun sign is Leo, the same sign as your 5th house, and 7th house rulers. And his Moon in Aquarius is sitting in your 7th house. The sign Sagittarius on the 5th house cusp also relates well to him having his Sun, Mars, Uranus and Pluto all in the 9th house (The Sagittarius house). These symbolism matches in his chart to your natal 5th,7th, and 8th houses, indicate that he is very much your type in terms of his personality, and temperament.

In a women’s chart the placements of the Sun, Mars and Uranus indicate some extra qualities that a women likes a man to exhibit (Apart from the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses). This has to do with gender roles, more then generalized personality traits. In your case you have Sun in Scorpio in the 3rd house, Mars in Libra in the 3rd house, and Uranus in Leo in the 12th house. Again there are some pretty strong symbolism links to his chart. His Moon in the 3rd house matches your Sun and Mars in the 3rd house, his Scorpio Asc matches your Sun in Scorpio, and his Sun in Leo matches your Uranus in Leo. This indicates that you find his behavior as a man to be attractive, and that he fits your image of how a man should be. You like his style as a Man.

In your partner’s chart, he has Aries on the 5th house ruled by Mars in Virgo, Taurus on the 7th house cusp ruled Venus in Virgo, and Gemini on the 8th house cusp ruled Mercury (yet again) in Virgo. There is a symbolic link here between your Sun, Mercury, Mars and Neptune all in the 3rd house (the Gemini house) and his Gemini 8th house cusp. Apart from this I couldn’t find anymore direct links.

On the surface of it, there are not any strong symbolism matches between his personality preferences and your chart. So I looked deeper into what I call secondary house cusps… Here, you look at the houses ruled by the signs on 5th, 7th, or 8th house cusps, for extra clues on a person’s taste…

It goes like this…

His 5th house cusp is Aries, Aries rules the 1st house astrologically, his 1st house cusp/Asc falls into Scorpio, which is ruled by Pluto in Leo… This creates a symbolic match between his 5th house of romance and your Sun, Venus, Saturn in Scorpio, and Pluto in the 1st house of personality. There is also a symbolic link to your Leo Asc from the fact that Pluto in Leo rules his Scorpio 1st house.

His 7th house cusp is Taurus, Taurus rules the 2nd house, his 2nd house cusp is Sagittarius ruled by Jupiter in Libra… This creates a symbolic link between his 7th house and your Jupiter (Jupiter rules Sagittarius) in the 1st house of personality, and your Mercury, Mars and Neptune all in the sign Libra.

His 8th house cusp is Gemini, Gemini rules the 3rd house, his 3rd house cusp falls at the end of Capricorn, with the entire sign of Aquarius intercepted in the 3rd house… This creates a symbolic link between his 8th house and your Moon in Aquarius, which falls into his 3rd house…

There are some links between his taste in personality, and your natal chart. You are his ‘type’ to some extent. However, his chart has more direct symbolic matches to your taste, then you do to his. Because of this, your attraction to his personality may be stronger than his attraction to yours, in terms of being each other’s romantic ’type’. Yes, he will be attracted to your personality. There are indications that you are both attracted. The relationship can still work. But your attraction to his temperament is stronger.

In a man’s chart the placements of the Moon, Venus and Neptune indicate some extra qualities that a man likes a women to exhibit (Apart from the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses). In your partner’s case he has Moon in Aquarius in the 3rd house, Venus in Virgo in the 10th house, and Neptune in Scorpio in the 11th house. These are good signs that he finds you behavior as a women attractive. There are some strong symbolism matches between your chart and his female oriented planets. His Moon in Aquarius in the 3rd house is in the same sign as your Moon also in Aquarius, and your Sun, Mercury, Mars, and Neptune in the 3rd house resonates with his Moon being in the 3rd house. Your Sun is conjunct his Scorpio Neptune by 1 degree, and since his Neptune in Scorpio is in the 11th house (the Aquarius house) it relates back to your Aquarius Moon again. This indicates that he finds your behavior as a women to be attractive, and that you fit his image of how a women should be. You likes your style as a women.

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The symbolism of people’s 5th, 7th and 8th houses shows what their ‘type’ is in terms of personality, and the male (Sun, Mars, Uranus) and female (Moon, Venus, Neptune) planets show what behaviors people like on the opposite sex… But there is MORE TO THE STORY.

HOUSE RULER SYNASTRY shows the actual CHEMISTRY that we have with someone. How it feels to be with the person, and what our experience with them is like. Also, INTERPLANETARY ASPECTS show if there’s a physical attraction between people.

In relationships there are many different types of chemistry that we can have with somebody… But if you want to know specifically about romantic chemistry, we look at the aspects between the rulers of our 5th, 7th, and 8th house rulers in one chart, and how the aspect the partner’s chart.

Now I’m going to outline the actual CHEMISTRY that the two of you have.

5TH HOUSE CHEMISTRY

You have Sagittarius on the 5th house cusp ruled by Jupiter at 27 Leo. Your partner conjuncts your 5th house ruler with his Pluto at 29 Leo. In your partner’s chart Pluto is the ruler of his 2nd house… This indicates to me that you find your partner’s worth, and sense of self-value, very attractive, and that he has an inner intensity to him that appeals to you. Perhaps you find what he has to offer in a relationship very exciting. You can see how being with him could bring a lot of good things into your life.

Your partner has Aries on the 5th house cusp ruled by Mars in Virgo. His Mars in Virgo tightly sextiles your Scorpio Sun. In your chart your Scorpio Sun rules your Leo Asc… This indicates to me that he really enjoys your vital energy, and physical presence. To him you have a force of energy about you that he loves to bask in when he is around you. This is an exhilarating, fun connection. This aspect also indicates physical attraction.

In synastry the two of you have your Mars sextiling his Uranus and Saturn trine. This is another aspect that is positive for the energy flow between the two of you. You find him exciting and interesting to be around, but also feel that he is consistent in how he supports you on an energetic vitality level. It’s almost like you feel physically stronger when he is around you.

7TH HOUSE CHEMISTRY

You have Aquarius on the 7th house cusp ruled by Uranus in Leo. Your partner’s Moon in Aquarius sits in your 7th house and conjuncts your own Aquarius Moon in the 7th house. The two of you have a very cozy and familiar type of emotional connection. For the most part you are able to feel comfortable with each other. There’s mutual sympathy, friendship, affection and liking between the two of you, and you are able to ’get’ each other on an emotional level. You may oddly pick up on each other’s mood without words.

His Moon in your 7th house also sextiles your North Node, and trines your South Node. While his Sun in Leo trines your North Node and sextiles your South Node. You may feel as if he is like an old friend from a past life, the feeling of knowing him already would have come to you early in the relationship. Not only that, but in certain ways you may feel he is able to open up possibilities for you to learn about, and do new things. Like he could potentially help you along in your path towards the future. The feeling that there’s a meaning to why you met would come from this aspect. A sense familiarity and having a destiny together is indicates by his both Sun and Moon aspecting your Nodes. This does not guarantee any happy endings, but is does show that the relationship feels significant.

His Sun in Leo is opposite your Moon in Aquarius. It’s 4 degrees apart but still tight enough to be felt intensely. To you he comes across as a man with a strong, vibrant personality and even if you don’t always agree with him, you respect his fiery courage and confidence. He makes a big impression on you and inspires your willingness to be supportive and accommodating. Your feel very warmly towards him. Sun/Moon aspects do generate strong attraction between the sexes, so you guessed right on that one. An attraction between the two of you is indicated by this aspect.

Your 7th house ruler Uranus in Leo squares your partner’s Neptune (And also your own Sun in Scorpio since the two of you have a Neptune/Sun conjunction). There may be a need to clarify the boundaries of the relationship. With an aspect like this it’s important to be really straightforward about where each person really stands. It is possible that there could be some confusion about this, especially from your side. With your 7th house ruler squaring his Neptune establishing, exactly where you stand with him may become a cloudy issue. I recommend remaining calm and polite, while stating very upfront what you require for a relationship to be worth it for you. Don’t make demands of him specifically. Just state in generalized ways, “For a relationship to be worth it for me I need XYZ (commitment, honesty, setting a date, whatever you need)“. This allows him to decide how much he is willing to give without being ‘pushed’ by you. This inspires him to live up to your expectations if he is able to do so. If he feels nagged he may rebel against you and become evasive. And if he needs to let go because he is unable to be what you need, it allows the both of you to end it gracefully, rather then having an ugly emotional scene. Not that things would go that far! The point that I’m trying to make is that directness and clarity are very important here. Also be sure that he is telling you everything you need to know, and hasn’t left anything out, before trusting yourself to him. Sometimes Neptune squares refer to hidden information.

He has Taurus on the 7th house cusp ruled by Venus at 18 Virgo. His Venus (and 7th house ruler) sextiles your Venus at 15 Scorpio, and also your Saturn at 21 Scorpio. Venus/Venus aspects tend to be very sweet and loving , so there is a side to your relationship where there is a lot of warm fuzzy energy between the two of you. In your chart Venus rules the 3rd and the 10th houses. With Venus ruling your 3rd house and aspecting his 7th house ruler, he may really appreciate the way you talk, and your easy manner. In his chart Mercury at 14 Virgo is sextiling your Venus/3rd house ruler, along with his Venus. The Nice flow of communication between you goes both ways, and your conversations are probably courteous, stimulating, and pleasant. This would be part of way he thinks you could be a good match for him. With his Mercury and 7th house ruler sextiling your 10th house ruler (Venus again), there will be something about your reputation (what you stand for) that will be attractive to him. He will find you interesting. And appreciate your communication style, and the aspirations that you have.

Your Saturn sextiling his 7th house ruler would indicate that he sees you as a potentially steady and reliable partner. In your chart Saturn is ruling the 6th house cusp so when you are together he would appreciate how your day to day routines fit his relationship requirements. Your Saturn also squares his Sun/Moon opposition which could lead to conflicts to do with day to day routines sometimes, even though he agrees with you in in theory. This connection has both positive and negative sides to it.

In synastry your Venus is also conjunct his North Node. What this means is that there is something about your style of relating which he feels he can learn from. He may admire your ability in this area and wish to cultivate a similar style himself. He instinctively knows that you are strong in certain areas the he needs to develop, and you would be like an example to him in this way. He may feel that you are able to lead him forward on the path that he was supposed to go. Like the Sun/Moon/Nodes comparison I mentioned previously, this is another aspect that indicates a feeling of destiny or fatedness to the relationship. Especially with him feeling he can learn form your Venus qualities.

8TH HOUSE CHEMISTRY

You have Pisces on the 8th house cusp ruled by Neptune in Libra. Your Neptune in Libra is sextile his second house ruler Pluto in Leo. This is usually a generational connection that is not personally significant. But in this case your 8th house ruler sextile to his 2nd house ruler, and when you consider the house ruler synastry it changes things. On the most basic level this comparison indicates that you are able to feel close to him on a deep level, and that you desire what he has to offer. If that sounds familiar it’s because your 5th house ruler Jupiter also aspects his 2nd house ruler Pluto, emphasizing the connection to his 2nd house. You generally feel that he has a lot of what you like and need. Pluto aspecting the 8th house ruler indicates physical attraction.

In his chart he has Gemini on the 8th house cusp, ruled by Mercury in Virgo. As I mentioned above his Mercury is sextile to your Venus, which is your 3rd and 10th house ruler. With Venus as your 3rd house ruler… Your emotional compatibility with him, and your considerate side, makes him feel comfortable opening up to you about personal things. He trusts you when it comes to these kinds of things, and feels close to you because of it. He loves that he is able to talk to you in an intimate kind of way, about certain things he may not say to other people. With his 8th house ruler aspecting Venus as your 10th house ruler… He likely has a pretty high regard for you, and respects you. He trusts you because he sees you as someone with integrity, and that impresses him as well as opens his him up to you emotionally. His 8th house ruler aspecting your Venus also (again) indicates good old fashioned physical attraction on his part.

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Because there is literally sooooo much information to take into account, I’ve only covered the main points highlighted in your synastry. Of course there is more to the picture. I recommend studying the synastry for yourself and once you have a firm grasp of it, you’ll be able to interpret it all very well. Especially if you get into using house rulers in synastry. That’s when things get very interesting.

I hope this was helpful to you. All relationships have positives and negatives, and there is no such thing as a perfect comparison, so don’t worry so much about some of the more difficult comparisons that you have with your partner. With the right attitude any aspect can be managed. That being said, the overall comparison between you is mostly positive, with a few hiccups here and there.

If you are having issues gauging where he is at with you, it is mostly likely due to your 7th house ruler square his Neptune as mentioned above. This can indicate occasional problems with miscommunication and misunderstandings even though good communication is indicated elsewhere in the synastry with your lovely Mercury/Venus configuration. This can be mitigated somewhat with your Sun in Scorpio being conjunct his Neptune (your have a natal Uranus/Sun square in your own chart). With the Sun conjunct Neptune aspect you are intuitively linked to him, and may be good at sensing where he really is it even if he doesn’t express it out loud. Just be careful to have a clear understanding with him and use your intuition to judge when is a good time to bring up any potentially touchy subjects.

Please reply and let me know if this analysis fit for you. It’s always good to know as an astrologer how well you are doing with your interpretations.

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posted November 21, 2012 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Lotis, thank you ever so much. This is so useful on various counts. I will read carefully and respond with how your interpretation matches the real thing! First thing, it is a joy to read that our charts express a more or less mutual attraction. Balm for the soul, since I needed reassurances on that score.

Your are a star. Bless you!

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posted November 22, 2012 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted November 22, 2012 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lotis, I've interspersed my comments below...

You said –

“he is very much your type in terms of his personality, and temperament”

“ you find his behavior as a man to be attractive, and that he fits your image of how a man should be. You like his style as a Man.”

To me he seems to be the perfect combination of things I like and find intriguing – like he was especially fashioned for me.

“But your attraction to his temperament is stronger.”

“There are some links between his taste in personality, and your natal chart. You are his type to some extent. However, his chart has more direct symbolic matches to your taste, then you do to his. Because of this, your attraction to his personality may be stronger than his attraction to yours, in terms of being each other’s romantic type. Yes, he will be attracted to your personality. There are indications that you are both attracted. The relationship can still work. “

Thank goodness for that!!

To some extent this is an unequal relationship, as I seem to be much more affected and even overwhelmed by him. He, in comparison, seems calm and cool. Perhaps that is an expression of the scorpion intensity (mine), but I am in danger of scaring him off.

“You have Sagittarius on the 5th house cusp ruled by Jupiter at 27 Leo. Your partner conjuncts your 5th house ruler with his Pluto at 29 Leo. In your partner’s chart Pluto is the ruler of his 2nd house. This indicates to me that you find your partner’s worth, and sense of self-value, very attractive, and that he has an inner intensity to him that appeals to you. Perhaps you find what he has to offer in a relationship very exciting. You can see how being with him could bring a lot of good things into your life.”

Same as above – I find that he sees me as a more intelligent and interesting person than I suspected myself of being. His work is exciting and makes a difference to the world.

“It’s almost like you feel physically stronger when he is around you.”

Yes

“You have Aquarius on the 7th house cusp ruled by Uranus in Leo. Your partner’s Moon in Aquarius sits in your 7th house and conjuncts your own Aquarius Moon in the 7th house. The two of you have a very cozy and familiar type of emotional connection. For the most part you are able to feel comfortable with each other. There’s mutual sympathy, friendship, affection and liking between the two of you, and you are able to get each other on an emotional level. You may oddly pick up on each other’s mood without words.”

“A sense familiarity and having a destiny together is indicates by his both Sun and Moon aspecting your Nodes. This does not guarantee any happy endings, but is does show that the relationship feels significant.”

We were both surprised at the empathy, effortlessness and ease there is between us. Things flow seamlessly (although we’ve only managed to meet twice in the past year as we live in different countries). We also both feel this is significant destined link.

“To you he comes across as a man with a strong, vibrant personality and even if you don’t always agree with him, you respect his fiery courage and confidence. He makes a big impression on you and inspires your willingness to be supportive and accommodating. Your feel very warmly towards him. Sun/Moon aspects do generate strong attraction between the sexes”

We are very strongly attracted to each other. His fiery courage and vibrancy comes across in his words and attitudes during our conversations on the net. They are also revealed in his work. When we meet, however, his pleasant charm is more apparent.

“With your 7th house ruler squaring his Neptune, establishing exactly where you stand with him may become a cloudy issue. I recommend remaining calm and polite, while stating very upfront what you require for a relationship to be worth it for you. Don’t make demands of him specifically. Just state in generalized ways - For a relationship to be worth it for me I need XYZ (commitment, honesty, setting a date, whatever you need). This allows him to decide how much he is willing to give without being pushed by you. This inspires him to live up to your expectations if he is able to do so. If he feels nagged he may rebel against you and become evasive. “

Thanks for this great advice. It is timely.

“He has Taurus on the 7th house cusp ruled by Venus at 18 Virgo. His Venus (and 7th house ruler) sextiles your Venus at 15 Scorpio, and also your Saturn at 21 Scorpio. Venus/Venus aspects tend to be very sweet and loving , so there is a side to your relationship where there is a lot of warm fuzzy energy between the two of you. In your chart Venus rules the 3rd and the 10th houses. With Venus ruling your 3rd house and aspecting his 7th house ruler, he may really appreciate the way you talk, and your easy manner.”

Spot on! He actually mentioned how he appreciates my relaxed and easy manner.

“Your Saturn sextiling his 7th house ruler --- Your Saturn also squares his Sun/Moon opposition which could lead to conflicts to do with day to day routines sometimes, even though he agrees with you in in theory. This connection has both positive and negative sides to it.”

I read somewhere that hard aspects with Saturn may indicate obstacles in being together such as distance or his work – could that be indicated by the above? These are major obstacles so far

“In synastry your Venus is also conjunct his North Node. What this means is that there is something about your style of relating which he feels he can learn from. “

He says I lead in the relationship and inspire him to be more forthcoming. That’s GOOD!

“In his chart he has Gemini on the 8th house cusp, ruled by Mercury in Virgo. As I mentioned above his Mercury is sextile to your Venus, which is your 3rd and 10th house ruler. With Venus as your 3rd house ruler - Your emotional compatibility with him, and your considerate side, makes him feel comfortable opening up to you about personal things. He trusts you when it comes to these kinds of things, and feels close to you because of it. He loves that he is able to talk to you in an intimate kind of way, about certain things he may not say to other people.”

We have great ease with being open and frank. It’s partly as a result of being online which gives one a certain anonymity and more confidence than initial face to face contact.

“If you are having issues gauging where he is at with you, it is mostly likely due to your 7th house ruler square his Neptune as mentioned above. This can indicate occasional problems with miscommunication and misunderstandings even though good communication is indicated elsewhere in the synastry with your lovely Mercury/Venus configuration.”

There is a mismatch because of our different expectations – I need him more than he needs me, as it were, and wish for greater contact – if it was up to me, we would meet more often.

Another thing which strikes me with your interpretations – since one can sift through and interconnect two people using so many different ways, it seems that positive connections could be found if we looked hard enough. Could there be in danger of fulfilling what one sets out to do, i.e., looking for signs of attraction as some interconnections are bound to emerge?

Thank you again Lotis. Interpretations based one's own charts are very helpful - easier to digest and more meaningful which helps one to understand how the interconnections work. Great for people wanting to learn about astrology.

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posted November 23, 2012 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 23, 2012 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Astro Keen for taking the time to respond. It helps me to build on my interpretation skills when I see see how the astrology fits a real situation.

About Saturn, it's possible that this could indicate difficulties being together due to practical things. But it also inspires you to work hard on that, and it certainly doesn't make it impossible.

With the over-reaching thing, when it comes to interpretation... I think it's possible to come up with a few significant connections just by matching random charts... But to find many significant connections this way is extremely unlikely. There are to many significant connections in your relationship synastry for the interpretation to just be based on over-reaching for the good things (or even the bad things). I'm especially impressed by his 8th house rulers Mercury, and 7th house ruler Venus, aspecting your Venus. As well as his 5th house ruler Mars aspecting your Sun. The interconnections between your nodes and his Sun/Moon opposition also strikes me as significant, and does your Venus conjunct his North Node (that is a big deal). The aspects between your 5th house and 8th house rulers, and his 2nd house ruler are also very telling. Trust me, I can tell when a synastry is weak and flimsy and this was not one of those. This doesn't guarantee a happy ending, but there is definite evidence that the connection is impactful and significant. Another thing I'd like to mention is that strong synastries usually have a lot of tight orb (close) aspects. Your synastry with this guy does have this as well, with a lot of your planets aspecting his planets with orbs of under 4 degrees (and some of them are exact). When you take everything into account... Orbs and what is aspecting what... It's kind of hard to make something out of noting.

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posted November 24, 2012 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lotiswhite,

I saw that with this analysis you had reduced the things to check for symbolic matches (signs predominantly, while in older analysis you took the aspects of the the rulers into account more strongly).
I very much agree with this, it helps to really point out the BASICS.
I probably would only add the conjunction to that, as it colours the expression of the sign so strongly.

Example:
My friend`s 7th and 8th house ruler is in Aquarius conjunct Sun and MC.
Her partner has a close to exact Sun-Uranus-conjunction in Leo, and an exact conjunction of his chartruler Jupiter and NN in 10th house.

As a matter of fact his Sun-Uranus-conjunction in Leo is opposing her Sun-Saturn-MC-conjunction in Aquarius.
(Saturn rules her 7th and 8th house).
(the widest orb is the Sun-Sun opposition with 5°09, which I usually woudln´t count anymore, but since the other aspects are under 5 degrees, it wouldn`t make any sense to break up that pattern, just because the Sun-Sun is out of orb by 9 minutes).

"I think it's possible to come up with a few significant connections just by matching random charts... But to find many significant connections this way is extremely unlikely."
This is what I am always thinking as well. And that is the reason why it is never enough to point out a single connection; the whole pattern has to be considered.

"he aspects between your 5th house and 8th house rulers, and his 2nd house ruler are also very telling"
It`s a really BIG DEAL.
I`ve noticed that there are such a lot interconnections between 5th and 8th house in attractions; and quite often the aspects will not even be smooth (I have found the square quite often, along with the conjunction, though some also had the sextile and trine; Iwas just intrigued that the square didn`t seem to be detrimental to a possible attraction at all. Quite the opposite. But then again the tension of the square can be quite steamy in terms of sexual synastry).

"Another thing I'd like to mention is that strong synastries usually have a lot of tight orb (close) aspects. It's kind of hard to make something out of noting."

Yes.

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Thank you both. So reassuring this! Especially in my case as I am often plagued by self-doubt and wonder if my perceptions are a figment of my imagination or just wishful thinking.

So astrology has this very good use - it can be used to support and trust one's own judgements, and also have faith in the future.

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