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Topic: Any chance at love in this life time? Chart included
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AriesKat
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posted November 23, 2012 09:26 PM
  
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Blackbird
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posted November 24, 2012 02:13 AM
Moon conjunct Ascendant: This could mean that you project some of your inner needs. That could be a good thing... it might make it easier for other people to figure you out, and potentially fulfill some of those needs.Moon square Mars: you might have difficulty fulfilling (acting on) deep needs, whether emotional, mental or physical. I have this aspect in my natal chart. Venus in Taurus, Mars in Capricorn (both are earth signs): you are practical/sensible and sensual, and you probably want something very similar in a partner.
Venus trine Mars: good aspect; desires and actions are in harmony. (You want sensible and practical, so you act sensible and practical.) Venus and Mars sextile Jupiter: I think this is a good aspect; you might be lucky in love. But it's a sextile, not a trine; sextile is a weaker aspect than a trine. A trine is flowing, natural harmony; a sextile is more like potential, something you have to work for to achieve. Sun trine Saturn: good awareness/understanding of, and possibly a natural ability to handle, responsibility and personal limitations. I'd say this is a good thing, especially for long-term relationships. Depends on the rest of your chart. You have several aspects to Pluto... Venus opposite Pluto, Mars sextile Pluto, Jupiter trine Pluto, Neptune sextile Pluto. Pluto is upheaval and transformation and the unknown. The Venus and Mars aspects to Pluto may affect your relationships and your approach to them, at least in the short term. Aries rising/Ascendant, Descendant in Libra: you may have a strong need/longing for recognition and/or a relationship despite the free-spirited, independent image you tend to project. That's about as far as my current knowledge of astrology goes. I'd have to seriously abuse Google and/or the search feature for the forum here to give you more info. :-) Based on my admittedly limited knowledge, I think your chart looks pretty good for love/relationships. For a fun time, find out where your Eros and Psyche are, and find interpretations/explanations of those placements. :-)
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Lonake
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posted November 24, 2012 02:32 AM
Wow you're going through the ringer. Expect many days where you are very sensitive about your worth, as a person as a partner as a woman. Take care not to turn into the bitterness for too long as it can drive others away from you, and you won't even realize you're doing it either which is the difficult thing. There is so much emphasis right now on the personal relation front and doing an about-face, just really completely. I don't know what happened in the past but the energies are saying you can't go back to how things were, you have to let go and find a new way to move forward. This can be really devastating, many different chart factors playing into this. It is definitely a fated time for you, you're re-aligning for better things to enter your life but you have to let some things go. Take great care in the decisions you make moving forward, they will not be little blips on your radar looking back at this time yrs down the road, so choose wisely. You might be experiencing some emotional upsets that turn you more inward, feeling very sensitive, maybe feeling a bit erratic and needing some extra time to yourself. This is all coinciding with your Progressed Taurus Sun 1 minute off from exact conjunct of your 2nd house cusp (if the time is right) so take time to appreciate what that means on all levels. You're definitely being challenged to re-evaluate what you have to offer, this will be very intense and over the next yr very sad at times. But objectively please also look at your chart and notice your asc/dsc rulers are Mars/Venus which are in trine in Earth across your 10th/1st. If you're not already then build yourself up in the world, you have much money making and personal investment potential available to you during this time of seeming isolation on the personal relations front due to other energies at play. Much energy to get ahead is here tho it may be difficult and seem impossible at times, no matter, use it to pursue ambitions and wait for this to pass. Best to you.IP: Logged |
AriesKat
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posted November 24, 2012 03:42 AM
Omg Lonake I really am and have been for some years now. My self esteem is the lowest it's ever been in my whole life. I feel worthless. I also cant stop thinking about my financial future ans career. I still dont know what i really want to do and i feel like time is tunning out for me. I have been sad for a long time and it's only gotten worse. I don't like doing the things I used to, very depressed. I have some good days but the bad outweighs the good. I keep posting here because I'm so lost I don't know what to do. This week I cried everyday. And I'm really dealing with a serious issue that I think will wipe out what veryittle love life I could had ever had. I'm So hurt that I can't focus on the future, it looks so grim to me. Please read my other post if you could it just has a lil more info about what I've been through. It's title is called what kind of readings are.... Should i see a therapist a physchic more astrologers? This is one thing I can't fix on my own I need help. IP: Logged |
AriesKat
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posted November 24, 2012 03:56 AM
Thanx for your post blackbird but I haven't had any love in my life yet and I'm 26. I asked because I have had nothing but difficulties In that area, I feel cursed. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted November 24, 2012 06:16 AM
I really feel for you, I just read the other post but after looking at the chart I could see the pain. You ask in the other thread about a period of time that it will lift. Now tbh (and I tend to be direct so get ready) to me that seems like you're asking if there's a way that your life can be manageable without confronting this issue that's bothering you. Please correct me if I'm assuming wrongly. And the chart says it's all colliding to get your attention, that this is something you need to focus on now. So on the one hand I can say that yes Saturn will move on and yes progressed Venus will move on (which they will) but you still have this thing that is staring at you right in the face and it needs your attention. So. You were vague about explaining what this issue is and I respect that. I do think you need to dive into this though and with someone you trust, if not a reliable/steady friend then possibly therapy or an astrologer who will stick with you throughout this, someone who will not bolt on you because this is not the kind of thing you want to be sharing with just anyone (judging by the chart and your admission, it's deep stuff and very sensitive, brings up many issues and you're sensitive to abandonment right now). You need to confront this if you want to move on. I'm not saying this as someone who knows you, I'm saying this as someone who understands astrological energies: you can't sidestep this one, you can't act like it's not there. This is a definite turning point in your life. Or to put it another way, if you act like it's not there it's gonna crop up bigger and badder later on. I really don't think you'll have any choice but to confront this, since it's really a very important issue that holds a lot of personal meaning. I mean you could try I guess but I don't think you'll succeed in avoiding since life has a way of throwing things in our face that become imbued with a very different meaning concerning our present state of affairs than the one we had previous. So you'll be looking at everything with these new lenses now. Now. That's not to say dive into it all and dive in deep. That could add to any potential for trauma. You need to wade into these sensitive waters and take your time. You're going to have a lot of time to really 'process' this. Check out transiting Mars conj your natal Mars/Neptune and squaring t.Uranus practically exact. This is like a rude awakening for you.OK I wanted more info (greedy I admit) and I just checked another type of progression called solar arc, and I checked it against the transits and your natal/secondary progressed chart. There's a strong victim mentality that you are feeling right now. I don't mean that in a bad way, I mean that it's associated with a strong feeling of vulnerability, a defeat, almost like a death is occurring regarding the way you operate in this world. And I don't say that lightly. After reading your other post and looking at the chart I do believe that on one level you think you are dying. I don't know if your health is part of this circumstance but there is a feeling of something coming to a very sad final ending and feeling quite helpless and frustrated. And again I'll be honest it's highly indicative of depression, of futility. You have a number of aspects hitting your natal that speak of depression *so please hang in there* I can't state that strong enough. I don't know if you need to hear that or not but I know depression in the chart when I see it. If this is an issue for now then yes please seek professional help or talk to someone there is no shame we all fall down sometimes and need to be picked back up again, by another person by ourselves through willpower by God by a higher power, what-have-you. I do hope it's not a health issue but you are in a great deal of pain the chart shows you in pain from multiple angles. I don't even know if I should be that honest in writing to you right now or not since I don't want to make things worse but I do want you to know that I can see the pain from the chart so I guess that's why I'm writing this now so that you know you're not the only one who can see it. Moving forward for the next month or so, take it really day-by-day. Transiting Mars on Mars/Neptune is a big trigger, but other things will be triggered as well from Capricorn such as a square to your Sun, a square to your nodal axis, a sq to your Venus. These are the times you will have to take greater care of yourself. Put effort into being more compassionate to yourself even tho it will be hard, but you have to do this for your own good. If you can't then that's even more of a sign that you need help from an external source and/or to tell someone when you're ready to take some of the weight off. Cultivating compassion for yourself is one of the best things you can do right now and it's free and it doesn't put any burden on you to talk about your situation. At the very least writing here (about anything) and checking in is great, your progressed chart shows you need to be in contact with people (writing/talking) to quiet down your mind for a bit. So please keep checking in if you can and also talk to someone if you need that as well. But not a psychic (imo, I don't place much value in them), if it's anything to do with health please speak to a trained medical professional first. Once you've got a handle on your physical and/or mental health (if need be) once out of the woods then I would suggest speaking to an astrologer if you want to go the esoteric route, some things an astrologer can pinpoint fairly quickly, they can also help with future trends and what I like about astrology is that it can also give the bigger picture to why things are happening. If you want a hint at that to hold you over for a bit: Your NN says to be more self-reliant and follow through with your own self-directed path rather than follow along with others and what they might be doing (and Pisces Moon, another indicator of your past, is in favor of following). You have your NN ruler Mars in Cap in H10 conj Neptune making that path a bit more foggy than it should be. Your SN ruler is Venus opp Pluto across the relationship houses, this is your past what you're struggling to overcome. Saturn isn't letting you off the hook it's saying now is the time. That's a very brief interpretation but it goes along with the energy coming into your life which is pushing you off the relationship train for now and pushing you towards achievement in the outer world, something that you can be proud of and call your own, something you work hard for. This is what I alluded to in my first post, I don't think it's a coincidence that while your nodes are affecting your H1/H7 Aries Libra and pointing to balance with NN in H10, that your Asc Dsc rulers are *trine* for heaven's sake and across houses 1/10 and in earth, the element of manifestation. You know you have something to work with but apparently first you have to make sense of this Venus/Pluto SN bs, and put a big chunk of it to rest once and for all. NN Aries speaks about courage and bravery so you're being tested to develop those attributes as well. And another nugget to nibble on, transiting Saturn in late Libra recently crossed your SN in H7, just one sign of bringing the past front and center. Best to you, L. IP: Logged |
AriesKat
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posted November 25, 2012 02:23 PM
Thanx again Lonake for your time this really means alot to me. To answer your first question I dont want to find a way to avoid the issue because really I cant but I want to know If i will be happy at all for an extended period of time w/ this situation. I have never been this depressed before or really ever depressed for more than a week up until a few years ago. Then for a while I was in denial about it and now its so full on I cant avoid it any longer. On top of that i think the stress, anxiety and depression bought on something else i never knew I had. yes my issue is health related. I can tell you in a private message more details.
In term of my nn in Aries and me needing to be more self reliant and independent, I am and always have been, I never been reliant on anybody even my mom. I am almost too self reliant i just hated the feeling of owing people or the arrogance that they get from doing something for you. I think my issue lies in not knowing when to ask for help, i always get nervous asking for any type of assistance.
I know my life will be harder from here on out and it will take courage to face what im going through, I just need to muster it up. My real question is despite the odds so to speak can i still be happy and if I never get to date and experience real love can I be happy? IP: Logged |
AriesKat
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posted November 25, 2012 02:25 PM
Also I have a twin, do you think hes going thru hell too, if so poor guy, we dont get too deep but now may be the time. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted November 26, 2012 08:46 AM
Hi AriesKat I think absolutely as you start to settle into this new way of relating to the world which seems to be in keeping with being more true to yourself that you will get into a groove where things start to calm down around you. Oh, wow, then it must be startling these feelings as they've lasted much longer than what you're used to. I had a period of depression when I was 14 I believe, absolutely side-swiped me wasn't used to those feelings over many wks/months at all so I completely get where you're coming from. This new realization, however objective or subjective it may be, seems to be precipitating this new wave for you. I think once you can get your head around it then you will stabilize. This is just from what I know of these episodes from personal experience and also from seeing friends and family go through similar at various crisis pts in their lives, I'm not a medical professional. In essence it's Pluto really dredging things up to be dealt with. No matter how Scorpionic or Plutonic we are natally these realizations still rock us to the core but we definitely get bonus points for bravery. :laugh: Sorry sometimes you have to have to make jokes to lighten the mood. And regarding the NN that is great to hear. I'm sure the Sun being in the same sign is a boost but we never know really how one is using their chart. Your response sounds so much like a Moon in Aries friend of mine she hates owing anyone anything, it's definitely admirable but with your response I can see how in a sense it can also be isolating at times. I wonder if in your chart the energy is so weighted on the Aries side with your Sun there that it's actually the opposite of what I initially thought, in that ideally the nodes are a balanced energy, each carrying its own weight; definitely something for me to keep in mind, thanks.
Now regarding your question I'm not objectively certain that your situation is truly as dire as you make it seem since I don't know specifics and happiness is really relative. This isn't to negate your subjective experience at all. There's a lot of studies into what makes a person happy, and most of them go back to a strong sense of community, deep bonds even just friendship that last for years, a sense that someone else cares for you and looks out for you. A sense that you have something to offer to the world and that it is well received, you know, 'just rewards' for a job-well-done. Being able to contribute, being able to express one's self authentically these are the things that tend to really 'make' people happy once basic needs for food/shelter/clothing are met. Now the question we're left is how could that tie into your chart. Jupiter traditionally is the planet of happiness and goodwill, of abundance. Yours is placed in Pisces in the 12th, double emphasis on the benefits of a spiritually generous attitude, some even call Jupiter in the 12th the guardian angel placement. You do have transiting Neptune eventually coming up to conjunct this point, heightening this spiritual reality for you, really probably just the ultimate. This sounds to me like a full on spiritual awakening, it doesn't get anymore Pisces/H12/Neptune/Jupiter than this. Truly. Jupiter also rules your 9th. Great potential for a new vision here to help you through this. Let's see, your Jupiter is at 10 deg, Neptune will be there starting about Mar/April 2016. It will be at 9 degrees sooner and still conjunct but the 1st actual conjunction is, well depending on where you're at in the world it's on 3/30/16. Now. That is a long long way off. So I'm going to check something else out, which is Chiron. Chiron conj Jupiter is a very healing energy it's in water here so there will have to be developed an attitude of forgiveness in order to progress forward, and being willing to really feel whatever you're experiencing which I think you won't have a problem with considering the effects this has already had on you emotionally. So if someone hurt you compassion for them, if you made a mistake compassion for yourself. Oh this is very nice. Ha, see we're on the same wavelength here. This is very good, listen to this. I had been looking at this for my chart since I have Jupiter in this area but it also applies to you: There is a new energy sweeping in late January 2013. Be ready for it. This is the beginning of the *ultimate* healing energy for us addled water signs and your Jupiter in the 12th here definitely applies since this I think is going to be the key for you in accessing this energy. So. late January 2013 Saturn in Scorpio comes to trine this part of your chart. Saturn will be going through your 7th still so you're looking at others as being real people who have real needs (this can even involve friends), some of the weight of t.Saturn opp n.Venus will be lifted, right now the real weight of it is just inching closer. late January is very nice for you esp since your natal Jup is sq to Saturn so this will offset some of that tension and balance it out, sometimes Jup sq Saturn is quick to give up and wants quick results so here's you're putting in the emotional effort to understand yourself and any other parties involved in this situation at a deeper level. This Chiron/n.Jupiter/t.Saturn trine will be valid for you til around May when Saturn goes back again to opp your Venus conj your Pluto putting on the pressure again to let go of something and re-evaluate your worth and what to expect from relationships, what to give, what to not put up with, etc. Chiron should help you with being ready to start over again on a clean slate. Now moving into August 2013 Saturn is still there on your Pluto. Ouch. But, and it's a big but, we have a grand water trine transit involving Chiron/Jupiter/NN (Saturn's a part of it too but it's not as close at this time). Now this is impacting your natal Jupiter, so you get Jupiter healing action times 2. This is a very important month for you. Transiting Jupiter will be in exaltation of all things in Cancer in your 4th so this truly is the ultimate healing energy here. If you are holding onto something and it's eating you up inside this is the place to put it to rest, this is the place to communicate to those who are close to you friends or family about your fears, this is the place to be making close connections with others of any sort. This is where you can drop down your guard and be happy that the other person can respect you for it. This is where you can break down emotionally and confide in someone, this is where someone holds your hand in just the way you need it to be held, the exact kind of warm affectionate contact you need. I hope you understand on an intuitive level what I'm getting at because this energy will be hitting you strongly. So. Be on the lookout to re-establish contact with people who have hurt you or who you have hurt (whichever applies) in your past and look for a reconciliation of sorts where you can both truly let your guards down without fear. But let your intuition guide you to this person. Throughout the summer likely you'll know who I'm talking about since it might be just one individual but the very act of putting things to rest with this person will be very helpful to you, allowing you to move on. Also Jupiter going into your 4th brings the focus on deep connections back to family, maybe someone you haven't seen in a very long time. It can also prompt you to even move back home if you don't live there now, or invite someone to live with you, you may be wanting to expand your home here. My advice is welcome any energy that prompts you to reconnect because it will be beneficial. Keep the door open to attend any spiritual or religious services at this time even those that in the past you may have opposed based on principle or on cultural standards, open your heart here and be ready to receive and be ready to be vulnerable with another. If you have questions now is the time to ask them. This is an excellent energy coming to you for resolutions and if you have no idea on earth what the heck jupiter means for you in your chart and in your life you're going to be getting a big glimpse of that at this time, next Summer (august in particular, and again in feb/mar of 2014) so keep eyes and ears open and let intuition guide you for a bit.
Sorry I've rambled on but this is an energy coming in that I'm really excited about personally since I've seen it work multiple times in the past. And I'm happy that I can give you a date earlier than 2016, truly. Til next time.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted November 26, 2012 08:49 AM
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AriesKat: Also I have a twin, do you think hes going thru hell too, if so poor guy, we dont get too deep but now may be the time.
OK I just saw this msg. Please read my above post. If this is the case as you say here then this is the perfect person for you. It truly is a very healing energy coming your way. Research if you like Jupiter in the 4th transit for more info. And it's exalted in Cancer. I love this energy for you. Ok talk soon. Bye.IP: Logged |
AriesKat
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posted December 06, 2012 09:40 PM
Lonake I will be emailing you soon. Suprisingly after writing here I started feeling better. Less emotional and not dwelling on the negative as much. Also as you said Ive got the feeling of being more engaged and and out there, communicating more. Its been a good week. I still want to fill you in on my issue and again thanx so much for your time. IP: Logged | |
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