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Astro keen
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posted November 27, 2012 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could someone please help with this composite. I've had the synastry chart read, which has been such a relief, but now discover that the composite is not so good - not a long lasting relationship. Your insights will be greatly appreciated.

I've pasted both composite and the synastry (me on the inside) chart below.


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posted November 28, 2012 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun and moon square saturn? that doesn't look too great...

This taking a quick glance...but those aspects I find very tough to deal with even with 'good' aspects. I have this sun square saturn in synastry with a friend and had it not been for the grand trine we have it would cause more issues...

Also that entire stellium is in the 12th house which is not really a great place to have planets in let alone a stellium. I'm not saying it's doom and gloom, just that there may be more issues that you initially thought. 12 house stuff is hard to overcome, it helps form a deep spiritual connection when both people are mature enough to handle it well. However on the flip side it could be only a spiritual relationship that doesn't really become physical.

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posted November 28, 2012 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Littlecloud.

I have a very physical relationship as well as a good intellectual understanding with this guy. So let's hope the stellium is about a deep spiritual connection. We seem to feel that. It's the Saturn aspects which are worrying! I would like to be forewarned and watch out for destructive trends and perhaps be able to avoid these. Don't know if that is possible!!

If anyone can relate their experience of Saturn square /moon/sun aspects that would be helpful.

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RunAroundScreaming
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posted December 12, 2012 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well you have a sun-mercury-mars-jupiter stellium so that means mental chemistry and energetic communication. you also have composite moon trine venus and moon opp pluto so that means the relationship will change you and u will become closer than u first imagined, sharing many secrets. The only thing that worries me is moon sq saturn because that usually does lead to relationships breaking up since both of the people feel lonely, hurt, ignored, and misunderstood by the other.

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posted December 12, 2012 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini??     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Thanks Littlecloud.

I have a very physical relationship as well as a good intellectual understanding with this guy. So let's hope the stellium is about a deep spiritual connection. We seem to feel that. It's the Saturn aspects which are worrying! I would like to be forewarned and watch out for destructive trends and perhaps be able to avoid these. Don't know if that is possible!!

If anyone can relate their experience of Saturn square /moon/sun aspects that would be helpful.


Sun square Saturn is usually about Judging and criticizing the other unnecessarily. Its also about being a "wet blanket" to the other. Try not to criticize or judge your other even though inside you may feel like you should. When you feel like you want to criticize or be judgmental, just catch yourself and remind yourself to let the other person just be.

If you two are mature, its not the worst aspect to have. They say this aspect is found in MANY synastry charts of married couples who have been together forever.

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Chryseis
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posted December 12, 2012 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The composite is pretty good except pluto square the Node and Saturn conjunct Node.

This is difficult, and wearing. Both aspects point to a very significant relationship. There fear present over one another's movements/whereabouts/and whether they can be kept put, and the relationship may involve almost like a prenup or some kind of overseeing authority or things put down legally/or itemised out regarding the relationship.

Pluto square Node, and such a close one too, would normally mean that the relationship will end. Well all relationships end eventually, but I think examples of this kind of ending would be: the relationship is annulled somehow, or one person becomes unavailable to the relationship - speaking of which, Neptune is impacting the North Node here as well, which can bring in issues of unspoken problems, avoidance, unavailability. Mercury is also tied up in these 29* thing in the composite and is also influencing the Node.
When seeking an example of these planets and the impact of their placements to the Node, I feel like one person is going to be trying to keep the other in one place, and there is like this constant shuffling of ruses, and guises between them to either get the other to be where they want or to get suitable distance from the other, and the other is kind of saying catch me if you can but it is about their own sense of pride and not wanting to be too easily tied down. It seems exhausting. It could lead to transformation of the relationship. It still seems long lasting, and definitely significant, there could be different chapters to it with cooled off spells in between. I think eventually it will wither but it will take a while to be clear of one another. The feel of the composite is good though, it seems very positive, vivacious, and interesting, like both people have a good communication and get a lot out of life.

I don't like too how the moon is not tied close enough in aspect to the ascendant, as this points to not enough proximity to one another or really having that truthful emotional bareness to one another, which would seem to support the packed 12th house. Perhaps though the ascendant is not quite correct.

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Astro keen
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posted December 13, 2012 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all. I am certainly more aware now of possible pitfalls and would be vigilant of these playing out from my end. For example, I'd rope in my Saturnesque qualities.

It's great to have your insights.

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posted December 13, 2012 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Chryseis:
Pluto square Node, and such a close one too, would normally mean that the relationship will end.
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I don't like too how the moon is not tied close enough in aspect to the ascendant, as this points to not enough proximity to one another or really having that truthful emotional bareness to one another

Hi Chryseis,

You've mentioned some interesting effects which I've heard of for the first time, e.g., the one about Pluto square Node. Astrology is complex indeed, which makes yours and others' knowledge all the more remarkable.

I've read elsewhere that Pluto square node indicates issues around control - is it this that proves to be difficult and divisive enough to end relationships?

Re lack of Moon/Asc aspects - we have Sun and Mercury conjunct Asc as well as Asc sextile node. Do you think that these could offset the lack of Moon/Asc link in some respect?

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Chryseis
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posted December 13, 2012 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whatever the case, it is a significant relationship most definitely.

I think the strong communication and nature of the relationship contributes to the transformative process that the relationship will undergo. It may not be a 'cosy' set up and there will probably be absence from one another's proximity, but you will bridge these gaps with the good communicative contact approach to one another.

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Chryseis
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posted January 11, 2013 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your username and bits and pieces seemed familiar

The relationship has 'legs' so it still will roll along for quite sometime. It keeps getting picked up by Mercury at 29*. If you notice, you have Pluto, Mercury, Neptune, and Saturn all at 29* in the composite, and they are impacting the node. So it sort of rolls along, due to significant growth, and rewarding feelings, but it is hard work, and wearing (Saturn conj node), and one of you at least will eventually be over the whole wrenching that the relationship brings (probably you) and this is seen in the Pluto square node.

However, its a significant relationship (due to Pluto again, and other stuff, and is emotionally rewarding, Venus trine Moon).

Neptune is a big culprit in the confusion, delays, catch me if you can, can't be pinned down, guises, etc which no doubt figure strongly.

I was going to try to change the composite based on what I think his ASC might be as I mentioned. If you're interested in me seeing the chart with the change of the ASC based on my suspicion of his, then I can view it and see if there is any other indications, it could be interesting to see it for house placement of planets. This is a lot to ask as really there is no grounding for the ASC to change other than my own feeling that his needs to alter. When I look at the composite as it is I feel disinclined to read the planets in their current house positions and have a suspicion that the ASC, Venus, Moon and Vertex in particular will highlight some aspects of the relationship. I like Mercury conjunct the ASC in the composite as you have it now, but I think an altered composite will still have Mercury significant and the Sun house will be important.

If you have a specific question that can be answered with a yes or a no, perhaps post the horary and someone might read it for you. I am not conventional enough on the horary reading and hence am not sure if I am reading the horary outcome correctly as I don't feel the horary strictures fully encompass the potential of what can be determined by the horary chart.

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