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Topic: a MASSIVE WAVE OF SADNESS - Tarot request/exchange?
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andstuff Knowflake Posts: 960 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted December 29, 2012 01:38 AM
Please if someone could look at this for me, I have no clue what to think anymoreWhy does he claim to need me spiritually whilst living with someone else? Whats the difference between his feelings for me and for this other person? Why do I have to deal with this? If someone has the time, I'd be grateful, because I'm really screwed up. Can return the favour if I'm lucky enough to recover my balance. IP: Logged |
andstuff Knowflake Posts: 960 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted December 29, 2012 04:21 PM
Please I'm literally falling apartIP: Logged |
Dreaming111 Knowflake Posts: 1264 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 29, 2012 04:45 PM
Hi andstuff,I am really sorry you are hurting right now. It makes me sad to know that you are. I dont want anything in return. You have already done so much for me. I wish I could give you a big hug right now. I am kinda in a weird spot myself so I understand how it is overwhelming for you. Just know that you arent alone ok? I will post the readings in a minute. IP: Logged |
Dreaming111 Knowflake Posts: 1264 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 29, 2012 04:46 PM
Can you give me his first initial? The other girls first initial as well?IP: Logged |
Enlightened Knowflake Posts: 153 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted December 29, 2012 06:09 PM
I'm sorry to hear of you're hurting..if it is of any consolation, I am dying inside too I will do a reading for you.Here is what I got The man you were/are involved with has been suffering in silence for quite some time before he met you. You came along, and sparked passion inside of him. I really feel strongly that you are in each others Soul groups, and destiny is at play here. HOWEVER< I have to tell you , even if he turned around tomorrow and decided he wanted to be with you, you would be bored with him. Take time out for yourself right now, and the answer will be clear. I have to ask, does he have children? IP: Logged |
andstuff Knowflake Posts: 960 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted December 30, 2012 02:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by Dreaming111: Can you give me his first initial? The other girls first initial as well?
Hi K, His is A and her name is Julia I think. Thank you very much for responding!! Just whenever you have the time I hope youve had a nice Christmas and have an awesome 2013!! x IP: Logged |
andstuff Knowflake Posts: 960 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted December 30, 2012 03:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by Enlightened: I'm sorry to hear of you're hurting..if it is of any consolation, I am dying inside too I will do a reading for you.Here is what I got The man you were/are involved with has been suffering in silence for quite some time before he met you. You came along, and sparked passion inside of him. I really feel strongly that you are in each others Soul groups, and destiny is at play here. HOWEVER< I have to tell you , even if he turned around tomorrow and decided he wanted to be with you, you would be bored with him. Take time out for yourself right now, and the answer will be clear. I have to ask, does he have children?
Hey darling Thanks for getting back!! Yeah it's totes true about his suffering and we had some pretty crazy stuff going on, Eros conjunct psyche and whatnot. No children though. so does he love me more? stupid question I know, boys can't love 2 at a time Do you want me to return te favour? Turns out I can be accurate occasionally x IP: Logged |
Enlightened Knowflake Posts: 153 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted January 01, 2013 10:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by andstuff: Hey darlingThanks for getting back!! Yeah it's totes true about his suffering and we had some pretty crazy stuff going on, Eros conjunct psyche and whatnot. No children though. so does he love me more? stupid question I know, boys can't love 2 at a time Do you want me to return te favour? Turns out I can be accurate occasionally x
YEs, he loves you more..he loves you because he loves you, he's with her because he feels like it's his duty. Does that make sense? Sure, I will take a general love reading, I guess? Thanks.
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Enlightened Knowflake Posts: 153 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted January 01, 2013 01:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by andstuff: Hey darlingThanks for getting back!! Yeah it's totes true about his suffering and we had some pretty crazy stuff going on, Eros conjunct psyche and whatnot. No children though. so does he love me more? stupid question I know, boys can't love 2 at a time Do you want me to return te favour? Turns out I can be accurate occasionally x
Well, he loves you because he just, well, loves you! LOL He loves the other woman more out of obligation. So while he does love you and think of you all the time, he has tremendous guilt about possibly leaving the other woman, even though he wants to. So he is very conflicted as well. My question: My love life the next few months? IP: Logged |
andstuff Knowflake Posts: 960 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted January 01, 2013 02:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by Enlightened: YEs, he loves you more..he loves you because he loves you, he's with her because he feels like it's his duty. Does that make sense?Sure, I will take a general love reading, I guess? Thanks.
Hey will post yours within a couple of hours! And well I wouldn't be surprised if he just wanted to pay less rent or something similar. Thank you for this follow up! Can I ask what cards you pulled? I asked if he was thinking about me at midnight last night and pulled 6 cups and my other readings even about their relationship feature me too, me in his hopes and fears.... Thanks again and have a good year and I'll be back soonish IP: Logged |
andstuff Knowflake Posts: 960 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted January 01, 2013 04:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by Enlightened:
My question: My love life the next few months?
Hm it looks like you have a certain emotional load from the past and tend to stay guarded, anticipating foul play? Love comes across as some kind of an idea, something you're not sure you want/ need, it's more of an illusion. Or perhaps it's not love per se that you want. You might also be inwardly scared of it, of starting afresh, letting another person come close etc. you might have been reflecting on this for quite some time, not really ready to take the plunge and over analyzing while opportunities ripen. You will need to take a very balanced approach to ensure success, never letting your body or your emotions get the upper hand. I can actually see that this is what you're more likely to do, to reaso as opposed to feeling and letting yourself sink into emotions. Chances are you're scared of betrayal/ getting hurt, hence this approach. I can see you getting very confused at some point and having to figure things out. If this happens then yeah someone might come round. Looks like it will take a while before you let youself melt and soften. All these swords kind of imply you reay have to at some point. But the sun as the best outcome is good, you'll be beginning to see the light if you manage to balance your heart and your mind. On second thoughts I thought this chariot meant keeping tabs on yourself but I guess it invites you to let your heart go a little bit. Like if you know the fairy tale in which a guy wore iron rings around his heart not to die of chagrin, this is not a way. And besides I can't help thinking there might be choices, so don't be over objective, take irrational factors into account. 10wands - page of swords - the sun - the moon - 2 swords - chariot - knight of swords - 3 pents - 5 swords - 7 wands IP: Logged |
Dreaming111 Knowflake Posts: 1264 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 01, 2013 10:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by andstuff: Hi K, His is A and her name is Julia I think. Thank you very much for responding!! Just whenever you have the time I hope youve had a nice Christmas and have an awesome 2013!! x
Hey thanks
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Dreaming111 Knowflake Posts: 1264 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 01, 2013 10:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by andstuff:
Why does he claim to need me spiritually whilst living with someone else? Whats the difference between his feelings for me and for this other person? Why do I have to deal with this?
So I made my own questions up to understand the situation first. What does andstuffs A feel for andstuff? How you view yourself: Death How you view A: Five of Coins What you feel about A: Seven of Staves How A views you: Ace of Staves What A feels about you: Page of Staves Obstacle: The Emperor Challenege of the R/s: Queen of Staves Interpretation: You are changing. You have started some process where you are shedding your old thoughts,even though you hate it. You miss him a lot and feel that you can get him back by playing the right chess piece. He sees you as some...idk how to say this but a nice distraction. If as you say, he is with the other girl..then you are there to give him a breather. He does however find that you are a good person. You wear your emotions on your sleeve and are very straight forward. The obstacles seems that if ...he made this committment to the other girl, he just hates breaking it. Idk if this is a marriage but it seems like that to him. If he leaves to him that is a black mark and failure on his part. I am uncertain who the queen is here,if she is anyone, but I will do a couple more readings to get a better idea... IP: Logged |
Dreaming111 Knowflake Posts: 1264 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 01, 2013 10:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by andstuff:
Why does he claim to need me spiritually whilst living with someone else? Whats the difference between his feelings for me and for this other person? Why do I have to deal with this?
part 2:
What does A feels for Julia? Oh I hate this.... But here is what I got... How Julia views herself: The Star How Julia views A: Seven of Coins What Julia feels for A: King of Cups How A views Julia: Queen of Cups What A feels for Julia: Ace of Cups Obstacle: Nine of Coins Challenge for the R/s: The Tower Interpretation: I see this as him being a weak kinda guy. It seems that they might have had a fall out and she saw that he might make it up to her and value her like he should in a r/s, instead he got depressed/upset and found you. I dont think she knows about you or at least not fully. Maybe she isnt bothered with you in the picture because she sees it as insignificant. So she sees herself as a great catch for him. Maybe he is moving up with her? He admires her. And she feels he has potential and will come around. Her feelings are pretty stable for him. She might get anry or upset but he and she both know that hse cares for him. He loves her. Im sorry andstuff. Taking the two readings together, it seems that neither of you should stick with him in my opinion. He seems like a nice guy but a weak and confused one. He cant give either of you contentment. When he hits a roadblock in a r/s it seems he tries to distract himself and not take responsibility for his actions. He seems like someone I know... (The guy I knew: He will feel bad but wont tell you one way or another. He doesnt want to hurt you but will end up hurting you the most. When he sees he hurt you, he just gets up and sadly walks off without trying to fix things. It seems like a trait.) I feel this guy is similar to the guy I knew. It doesnt seem like he is a player in a manner about sex etc. But he is an emotional vampire and emotional player. If he cant get from you or her, he will find a third friend to *talk* to...develop a bond and then get carried away. Did I say he is irresponsible? Lemme say it again. He is very irresponsible. Very. He is not emotionally/ mentally loyal. Forget the sex. I bet he had a bad upbringing? Maybe he is depressed even? But in any case, he cant bring you down too. That isnt love. Love is putting the other person on your head while you are drowning in a sea of sorrow. You want that person to see the sun while you are under the waves. He here is clutching onto anyone gasping for air then doesnt even care if you drown or not. My advice is that you and that Julia should be friends ... and move on from him. She is going through what you are and has been for a while. I feel it. Only you are more vulnerable while she has learned to develop thick skin. She is demanding while you are asking for him to pay attn and be with you. There is a huge difference. But the best thing is....not ask or demand and wait. No emotions. No promises. Just watch what he does... I will be back for you questions in a bit.
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lilithpluto Knowflake Posts: 1612 From: pluto Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 01, 2013 11:29 PM
I can't read tarot but sending to you..Stay happy n strong.. IP: Logged |
PhoenixFire Knowflake Posts: 1180 From: The Crossing Registered: Jun 2009
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posted January 02, 2013 01:23 AM
I'm sorry you are going through this, andstuff. From past readings, it seems A has a lot to work through within himself. It wouldn't surprise me if this connection w Julia is very brief. I could read for you tomorrow if you'd like. Just wanted to add that you seem to be a very nice person w a lot to offer, and send you best wishes in getting through this.Dreaming, did your ex have a Pisces mars? Reason I ask is the way you discribed the passive aggressive approach, totally fits a certain person w this placement. Concur 100%...better to know straight out where you stand, then get brushed into confusion by a wilting violet. IP: Logged |
Dreaming111 Knowflake Posts: 1264 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 02, 2013 01:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by PhoenixFire: I'm sorry you are going through this, andstuff. From past readings, it seems A has a lot to work through within himself. It wouldn't surprise me if this connection w Julia is very brief. I could read for you tomorrow if you'd like. Just wanted to add that you seem to be a very nice person w a lot to offer, and send you best wishes in getting through this.Dreaming, did your ex have a Pisces mars? Reason I ask is the way you discribed the passive aggressive approach, totally fits a certain person w this placement. Concur 100%...better to know straight out where you stand, then get brushed into confusion by a wilting violet.
The guy I knew had a mars in cancer in the 12th house (11/12 cusp). Yeah, it does no one any good to end up trapped in a situation like that. It just hurts everyone in it. I agree though I really think andstuff you have tons of potential and seem liek a great human. I dont think that you should let yourself see no light at the end of the tunnel. I think if anyone needs a chance it is you. IP: Logged |
andstuff Knowflake Posts: 960 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted January 02, 2013 02:57 AM
Dreaming, that was really generous but some things don't add up. Boys dOnt write love letters to girls they haven't seen for a billion years if they can get whatever they need here-and-now. And even Astrology doesn't allow any spiritual connection between them. She seems more like a screw and come aide and perhaps a friends of sorts, but with a Pisces moon it's sort of.... Never enough. Anyway thanks for your time and let's see what PF says IP: Logged |
andstuff Knowflake Posts: 960 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted January 02, 2013 03:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by PhoenixFire: I'm sorry you are going through this, andstuff. From past readings, it seems A has a lot to work through within himself. It wouldn't surprise me if this connection w Julia is very brief. I could read for you tomorrow if you'd like. Just wanted to add that you seem to be a very nice person w a lot to offer, and send you best wishes in getting through this.Dreaming, did your ex have a Pisces mars? Reason I ask is the way you discribed the passive aggressive approach, totally fits a certain person w this placement. Concur 100%...better to know straight out where you stand, then get brushed into confusion by a wilting violet.
Hi PF hope you're well. Well yeah it you could I won't say no, you seem to connect to this situation for some reason. And it's kinda funny because I have a Pisces Mars. The most idiotic bit is perhaps that every time he sends me one of these letters I end up acting cool and telling him he is not entitled to anything, then time passes and I start feeling I was wrong. At some point I actually told him there must be people in his life more entitled to listen to monologues about his inner life than me. The thing is he doesn't know I know what his current situation is, every time there is a letter it's just him feeling lost and lonely and me he allegedly has feelings for. I found out by accident. and he keeps sneaking around mildly erotic pictures of me elsewhere online, which I just don't get. Pictures are not as cool as people in the flesh, unless ha its the same league were talking about. so yeah anyway. If you could do this then would be suprercool and ill be looking forward. And if you ve got questions I could do them as well Just another thing lol I so totally hated your reading about that new love interest with earth energy and I think practical / responsible some sh*t like that. I got scared and locked myself up in the countryside with a black cat for company so it never happened, I outsmarted fate lol. IP: Logged |
Jounia Knowflake Posts: 616 From: United Kingdom Registered: May 2011
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posted January 02, 2013 06:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by andstuff: Please if someone could look at this for me, I have no clue what to think anymoreWhy does he claim to need me spiritually whilst living with someone else? Whats the difference between his feelings for me and for this other person? Why do I have to deal with this?
I don't have anything to offer as I do not how to do readings, etc. I have the same questions in my head. I just wanted to share with you that I am in the same situation and have been for a year. I'm dying from pain. I am completely lost and don't know what to do. I've never experienced such a beautiful love yet nor have I experienced so much pain. I wonder what goes on inside their heads? He suffers too, cries all the time yet I don't understand as I feel he is in control of this whole painful situation - yet HE feels he isn't! I constantly feel empty. When we are apart I want to cut him out of my life. Yet when I'm with him, I have never been so happy or felt so fulfilled. You are not alone. I know that doesn't help, but I just wanted you to know that I really feel your pain. xxxxxxxxx IP: Logged |
andstuff Knowflake Posts: 960 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted January 02, 2013 08:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jounia: I don't have anything to offer as I do not how to do readings, etc. I have the same questions in my head. I just wanted to share with you that I am in the same situation and have been for a year. I'm dying from pain. I am completely lost and don't know what to do. I've never experienced such a beautiful love yet nor have I experienced so much pain. I wonder what goes on inside their heads? He suffers too, cries all the time yet I don't understand as I feel he is in control of this whole painful situation - yet HE feels he isn't! I constantly feel empty. When we are apart I want to cut him out of my life. Yet when I'm with him, I have never been so happy or felt so fulfilled. You are not alone. I know that doesn't help, but I just wanted you to know that I really feel your pain. xxxxxxxxx
Well I know you meant well but well knowing others suffer doesn't make me feel any better. I am convinced people end up in situations because it's their own fault. I have seen people who are unhappy and more often than not they are losers who don't deserve to be happy. I don't want to be with them or be one of them. It's like some I don't know lung cancer club. People convincing each other they are fine and not alone. However once someone gets well they resent his/her getting well. Please don't blame me for not wishing to belong to these kinda clubs. IP: Logged |
Ariehnox Knowflake Posts: 319 From: Registered: Jan 2011
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posted January 02, 2013 08:55 AM
Hey I'd also like to give it a shot, though with all the readings, I'm not sure if it would help or only add to the confusion... If it's still alright, I'll try to read for you tomorrow morning. IP: Logged |
Jounia Knowflake Posts: 616 From: United Kingdom Registered: May 2011
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posted January 02, 2013 09:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by andstuff: Well I know you meant well but well knowing others suffer doesn't make me feel any better. I am convinced people end up in situations because it's their own fault. I have seen people who are unhappy and more often than not they are losers who don't deserve to be happy. I don't want to be with them or be one of them. It's like some I don't know lung cancer club. People convincing each other they are fine and not alone. However once someone gets well they resent his/her getting well. Please don't blame me for not wishing to belong to these kinda clubs.
Sorry, didn't mean to offend i wasn't trying to convince you that you'll be fine, I don't really know what I was hoping to achieve....I just meant well. IP: Logged |
andstuff Knowflake Posts: 960 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted January 02, 2013 09:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ariehnox: Hey I'd also like to give it a shot, though with all the readings, I'm not sure if it would help or only add to the confusion... If it's still alright, I'll try to read for you tomorrow morning.
Hey I'd really love a reading done by you this is all I know Could you just ask if Im gonna fall in love with someone this year who will be able to give me things my lover used to give me? I am scared of resenting someone not being able to replace him, I suppose I just have to know if there is a chance, i am so scared of spending my life comparing every new thing with this old thing. And if you can see who the person is. And I'd adore to return the favour!! If you've got questions IP: Logged |
Ariehnox Knowflake Posts: 319 From: Registered: Jan 2011
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posted January 02, 2013 10:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by andstuff: Hey I'd really love a reading done by you this is all I knowCould you just ask if Im gonna fall in love with someone this year who will be able to give me things my lover used to give me? I am scared of resenting someone not being able to replace him, I suppose I just have to know if there is a chance, i am so scared of spending my life comparing every new thing with this old thing. And if you can see who the person is. And I'd adore to return the favour!! If you've got questions
Will do. I'd also like to say that you deserve to experience love so much greater than this. You deserve to be happy, to feel so loved that it leaves no room for doubts about the relationship. You have so much love to give, but only to the person who would reach out for it wholeheartedly... You are your own fountain of abundance, and no one can drain you of it. ((Sending white and pink light your way)) I would love to have a reading from you as well, regarding what's in store for my studies/thesis and internship this final term. Thanks a lot for the offer, I truly appreciate it! IP: Logged |