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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted December 28, 2012 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is going to be a little lengthy...

Ok so Im in love with a Libra Woman. We have been in a relationship for just over a year now. in mid november she moved back to LA, California. Where she knows people and has a career setup. We had met while she was back living in NY where she is originally from. For financial reasons it was decided i wouldnt move with her right away. we have been keeping in touch with eachother since she has been there mostly through texts sending eachother picture messages telling eachother we love one another and so forth. on Dec. 8th she texted me a message saying she hoped I was doing good. this sounded so banal and insincere to me like I was an acquaintence instead of her bf so I just replied thank you and she replied "lol" after that I didnt speak or txt her for a week and a half and neither did she. December 18: I went to txt her and she didnt respond after almost a day which isnt normal so DEC. 19: I checked her Facebook to find she has deleted me as a friend.. I freaked out and started txting her to see what was going on and why she wasnt getting back to me or talking with me. I started blowing up her phone with calls hoping she would answer and she replies with one text "if you dont stop calling I'm Changing my number bye" I am crushed I do not know what is happening and I have been going absolutley insane and freaking out trying to figure out what happened. I stopped blowing up her phone but send her regular texts trying to see what happened and explain I love her. now she is not getting back to me whatsoever.. so I made it even simpler and just said if you dont want anything to do with me just tell me and that will be it. I dont want to be strung along any more then you want me bothering you. but she still doesnt reply at all.. i know she still has her phone because occasionally I'll still call just to make sure cause I will here it ring and then she will forward it to her voicemail. one week went by and I send her messages to her phone talking like I normally would telling her about whatever and also saying goodnight and that I love her. I have not messaged her since the 26th.. Im thinking to myself that maybe she just needs space to think or whatever i guess you women need which I dont think as a man I'll ever understand (sorry) Im just hoping she will come around.. the main thing that is killing me is understanding why she is doing this.. because I refuse to believe that she is the type of person that can just do a 180 and sever all ties with me and move on.. this woman cried 2 times the last day we said goodbye in mid november, and cried again heavy when we walked out to my car so I could leave I rememeber turning around and then driving by her and she made me stop so she could give me kisses nd whatnot all the while she was crying.. lol kinda cliche like a movie I guess.. but I held back my tears for the most part trying to be a strong man. and I always told her everything would be alright. I drove away and she just stood there outside I could see her in my rearview mirror, it was sad.. moral of the story I refuse to believe she is the woman that just turns completely unemotional and decides to stop loving me.. with that said I dont understand why she is doing this and I am hoping some of you could shed some light on what is going on. When I originally freaked out I wanted to drive to CA and see wtf was going on, but I dont have her address . I was going so crazy and being so insecure (typical cancer man I know) I even was calling private investigators in LA to see if they could find her. I have relaxed a little bit and gained my faith back and am trusting she still feels for me.. but I trully dont know anything for sure. theres one more thing I have to mention.. as per why she might be doing this idk. but it just so happens that I did a bad thing and in late novemeber and early december I sent emails to girls online looking to hook-up I know this is incredibly sleezy but I never ended up doing anything with anybody.. God as my witness I have never cheated on my gf. thought about it? yes.. but never went through with anything. I know it was childish but I guess it was just my way of coping with being scared I would never be with her again. now if she so happened to go in my email and see the sent messages of me replying to the girls looking to hookup then I can see why she would do the 180.. but the thing is I dont know if she did. i check my recent activity and yahoo is so messed up it will say someone has logged on from CA,US but when I check the ip adress it comes back a city on the northeastern side where I live.. so I really dont know. and honestly I hope she found the emails because then atleast I would know something... if any of you women could please help a man whose heart is aching so badly please give me some sort of advice as im sure you can understand her just a little better then I do..

I never checked mine and hers synastry until just recently and I was pleasently surprised. I dont check these days simply because I dont want to bring astro into my relationships .. I like to be the judge on wether they work or not. and im not lurking or new or anything i use to be on the forum a ton a few years back just have been on vaction I guess.. lol

any insight on whats happening here and if she will get back in touch with me will be greatly appreciated. god bless!

here is our synastry but please if you have anything negative to say about the synastry please just hold it.. I dont like hearing bad things about synastry. me and this girl mesh quite well together. the only thing that she brought to my attention that i never looked into before is that we both assume things without being clear with eachother. another thing I should mention. her birth time is not accurate and I put noon down so I am unaware of her ascendent or house placements.


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happyaskings
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posted December 28, 2012 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for happyaskings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My first thought was that perhaps she took the last text you sent the wrong way or she might have found someone else. Then reading that you were looking to hookup with other women online, there is a BIG possibility that she got into your email and found out and that would do it for me.
If I were you I would just give her space and some time and see if anything goes from there. Blowing up her phone is not going to help at all, but giving her time to think and miss you might.

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charlie
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posted December 28, 2012 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Been there and done that. With a Libra. That just disappeared. That's how I got into astrology because I had no clue what was happening but apparently, vanishing is pretty common among Libra's and from what I've understood most come back after a while.

Libra dude I was into came back after ONE YEAR but by then I had moved way along.

One of my best friends is a Libra and he sends me the most cryptic txts sometimes too. And when I respond I get a "lol" in return. I have figured out he does this to test the waters when he has something on his mind.

I know it hurts a lot (I'm a Cancer too) but my advice to you is to not txt or call her again. Ever. You'll get through it and when you are you'll be able to see her bs for what it's worth!

Oh. I'll take this excellent opportunity to AGAIN state my strong dislike for anything Virgo!!!!! And I'll never stop.

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted December 28, 2012 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in a matter of a few weeks she found someone else after being in love with me for a year? and what text are you referring to? the one where i simply said thank you" ?

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted December 28, 2012 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
charlie. but I dont see her as a person who would just disappear.. we've been together for over a year and our feelings are very much involved. if she is just disappearing then I would have to conclude she has some major personality disorder to which I have been completely unaware. which doesnt seem to fit shes a pretty level headed woman. she doesnt have alot of bs about her.

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charlie
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posted December 28, 2012 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Seeing Stars 7.21:
charlie. but I dont see her as a person who would just disappear.. we've been together for over a year and our feelings are very much involved. if she is just disappearing then I would have to conclude she has some major personality disorder to which I have been completely unaware. which doesnt seem to fit shes a pretty level headed woman. she doesnt have alot of bs about her.

This may be so but I'm just saying that I've read A LOT about Libra's....not saying that she's the vanishing type at all but her behavior is rather....ummm....****** .

It's so easy for us to cling to unresolved issues! Especially when a significant other is involved.
There are SO many questions and no answers but the clinging is what hurts, not the letting go and drifting off with the tide for a while.

Go to DXPnet.com and read posts on Libra board. Might help somewhat.

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Geeky
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posted December 29, 2012 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suspect she has moved on. She texted, "if you dont stop calling I'm Changing my number bye"... what part of that is unclear?

Yes, it was sudden and abrupt, but maybe her new relationship got very serious very fast and she just doesn't want a long, drawn out thing.

She left, you didn't follow. Sometimes, a lady runs off to see if you'll chase her. It's a childish way to ascertain her importance to you but it was probably why she moved on.

Out of sight, out of mind.

I'm not being hard on you to be mean. I am telling you from experience. Some of us just like to rip the band-aid off to suffer less...

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Geeky
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posted December 29, 2012 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, I think your synastry is not that great.

You said to "hold it" but this *is* an astrology forum and if you didn't want a comment on synastry, why post the chart?

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Haplesschild*
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posted December 29, 2012 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay she sounds immature and a huge coward (ironic considering she's 11 years older than you and in her 30's). Cutting you off with no explanation?

Move on, she's not worth it.

She probably met somebody else and doesn't want to deal with you getting upset so she chose the lame way out (deleting you) and hoping you'd get the hint. =(

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Geeky
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posted December 29, 2012 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
Okay she sounds immature and a huge coward (ironic considering she's 11 years older than you and in her 30's). Cutting you off with no explanation?

Move on, she's not worth it.

She probably met somebody else and doesn't want to deal with you getting upset so she chose the lame way out (deleting you) and hoping you'd get the hint. =(


She is Venus in Scorpio so I can *get* why she just vanished. We burn hot but lose interest quick if things don't feel right.

It's not really a lame way out, it's a less painful way out. It works for some of us (like me), but others (like you & the OP perhaps) need closure and a long, drawn out process.

Also, we don't know what led up to this. Things may have seemed fantastic to him but maybe for her, not so much. Her texts seem cold... like she was sick of him. None of us know why.

But I agree. Not worth his time to try to think about "why" and the "what ifs".

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posted December 29, 2012 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Seeing Stars 7.21:
because I refuse to believe that she is the type of person that can just do a 180 and sever all ties with me and move on.. this woman cried 2 times the last day we said goodbye in mid november, and cried again heavy when we walked out to my car so I could leave I rememeber turning around and then driving by her and she made me stop so she could give me kisses nd whatnot all the while she was crying.. lol kinda cliche like a movie I guess.. but I held back my tears for the most part trying to be a strong man. and I always told her everything would be alright. I drove away and she just stood there outside I could see her in my rearview mirror, it was sad.. moral of the story I refuse to believe she is the woman that just turns completely unemotional and decides to stop loving me..

This is the problem right here. You are refusing to believe that should could be emotional a few weeks ago and then turn unemotional a few weeks later.

But a few weeks is a lifetime for a Scorpio Venus in love. She stood there and cried because you let her go. In that moment, she knew it was over. She just didn't have the heart to end it sooner. She was probably holding out hope (like those stupid movies) that you would magically appear on her doorstep. Or that you would stand there and beg her not to leave. But you didn't, and it's likely the feelings faded very quickly for her.

Add in a potential new person and like I said, out of sight, out of mind.

That's how we operate. My bestie is a Libra with Venus in Scorpio and she is just like me in that respect. We will be devoted and hang on for dear life if we think the feelings are truly mutual. But going to bed alone at night is lonely and we hate that... so ultimately, who wins is who is there.

It DOES NOT mean you did anything wrong so don't go over this in your head too much.

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Randall
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posted December 29, 2012 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personal requests go in Personal Readings. Moving there.

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posted December 29, 2012 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not about closure, it's about being mature enough to have a discussion or at least tell someone you don't think it's working out. You don't just disappear and then tell someone to leave you alone. It's not what you do, and it's really hurtful so I don't see how it's less hurtful. Of course if you're scared of confrontations it will be easier for you, and you don't need to deal with their reaction but what about the person you disappeared on? You have a decent length relationship with them, they deserve some courtesy and basic respect. O_o This is even worse than breaking over email or text (which frankly, shouldn't happen pass a two month relationship).

It's selfish behaviour and it IS cowardly. I'd never do it to somebody else as it's happened before to me years back when I was 16. Ripping off the bandaid is telling them it's over. Going MIA is prolonging things.

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Originally posted by Geeky:
She is Venus in Scorpio so I can *get* why she just vanished. We burn hot but lose interest quick if things don't feel right.

It's not really a lame way out, it's a less painful way out. It works for some of us (like me), but others (like you & the OP perhaps) need closure and a long, drawn out process.

Also, we don't know what led up to this. Things may have seemed fantastic to him but maybe for her, not so much. Her texts seem cold... like she was sick of him. None of us know why.

But I agree. Not worth his time to try to think about "why" and the "what ifs".


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posted December 29, 2012 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, forget the synastry. Don't care about the synastry, the synastry isn't the problem. You're dealing with a b*tch, that's your problem. As an Aries, moreoften than not I can straight through Libra/Scorpio people. Not just men, not just women, the combination in general. I get it. I don't know why, but call me The Whisperer. She is playing games with you because she probably met someone in L.A. who took her mind off her actual problems and now she thinks everything is fixed. She still wants you calling and begging for her attention though because everyone loves an ego boost. And you will because you're a Cancer and Cancers hold on for dear life even when they're being swatted away. Eventually you let go right when the person has decided to stop being an Grade A jerk and take your feelings into consideration again. That is part of Cancer's game I believe, not just a fluke. Blech. MOVE ON from her. There are plenty of *good* girls who won't do that to you. Like a Taurus. Find one of them.

My friend is a Scorpio Sun, Mercury, and Venus with Mars in Libra. She does this "on a string" s*it to guys all the time and it ****** me off. Not only is it a waste of a connection, but she claims naivety afterwards. Please.

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posted December 29, 2012 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for happyaskings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Sorry, forget the synastry. Don't care about the synastry, the synastry isn't the problem. You're dealing with a b*tch, that's your problem. As an Aries, moreoften than not I can straight through Libra/Scorpio people. Not just men, not just women, the combination in general. I get it. I don't know why, but call me The Whisperer. She is playing games with you because she probably met someone in L.A. who took her mind off her actual problems and now she thinks everything is fixed. She still wants you calling and begging for her attention though because everyone loves an ego boost. And you will because you're a Cancer and Cancers hold on for dear life even when they're being swatted away. Eventually you let go right when the person has decided to stop being an Grade A jerk and take your feelings into consideration again. That is part of Cancer's game I believe, not just a fluke. Blech. MOVE ON from her. There are plenty of *good* girls who won't do that to you. Like a Taurus. Find one of them.

My friend is a Scorpio Sun, Mercury, and Venus with Mars in Libra. She does this "on a string" s*it to guys all the time and it ****** me off. Not only is it a waste of a connection, but she claims naivety afterwards. Please.


*slow clap* DANNNNNNNGGGG, sister!!

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posted December 29, 2012 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by happyaskings:
*slow clap* DANNNNNNNGGGG, sister!!

LOL, I can totally hear it in my head.

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posted December 29, 2012 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leap Year Pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've a question, Stars, before I respond to your request... Why DON'T you know where your GIRLFRIEND lives?

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posted December 30, 2012 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Leap Year Pisces:
I've a question, Stars, before I respond to your request... Why DON'T you know where your GIRLFRIEND lives?


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posted December 30, 2012 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, game playing at its finest.

If she wanted to change her number she would have already and not bother to tell you. So that little threat was a message to you to leave her alone.

I conclude that she is hung up on someone and it has moved on rather quickly or spiraled out of control.

ie: she likes him and its gone further than maybe originally intended.

an innocent flirtation has turned into a quasi relationship so to speak.. and now she is dealing with a little thing called a conscious. Sometimes people dont want to see the person that they have betrayed or are going to hurt... Running away from the situation and ignoring the issues is an awful thing to do to a loved one, but sometimes easier on the ego and guilt tripping.

You are going to have to give her space. So no more texting, emails or calls. Piece the pieces of your life without her and try to move on.

Sometimes its good to chase and sometimes its not. This is one of those times.

She clearly had the time to text you back to stop texting her/calling you. So she obviously knows how to use a telephone/text/email and get a hold of you when she wants too. But dont hold your breath. I doubt she will come back any time soon. And if she does, it will be with her tail between her legs... That will be your oportunity to say what you need to say to her and get closure so you can continue to move on with your life.

The best revenge is living a happy life after heartache and dissapointments.

Show her the man she lost by giving your heart to another woman and making her your world

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posted December 30, 2012 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My intuition tells me that she has moved on. Not everybody can do the long distance thing. My heart goes out to you. I have a Cancer moon and I can deeply relate to your story. Have hope in your heart as you move forward in life. 24 and there is so much more in life.

Onward and upward.

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posted December 30, 2012 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo_80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LIBRAN's .....sailing in the same boat....everything is going strong and never would you have thought that the next minute it is over...

Well all I can say to you is that you shouldn't have called her so many times...
a) Libran's hate confrontations...they will never talk..they can just cut you off, and come back after a while behaving like nothing ever happened..

b) stop nagging them, it put's them off....they will go far fa away from you....

They are emotional people, but cannot translate their emotions into words....

I would say just give it time....if she comes back good, if she doesn't move on....why would you want someone who doesn't love you as much you do....

Good Luck!!

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posted December 30, 2012 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Edit... I was being abrasive. I was just trying NOT to sugar coat the situation for him.

Whether we agree or disagree with her methods, she has cut off contact. It's done.

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posted December 30, 2012 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leo_80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LIBRAN's .....sailing in the same boat....everything is going strong and never would you have thought that the next minute it is over...

Well all I can say to you is that you shouldn't have called her so many times...
a) Libran's hate confrontations...they will never talk..they can just cut you off, and come back after a while behaving like nothing ever happened..

b) stop nagging them, it put's them off....they will go far fa away from you....

They are emotional people, but cannot translate their emotions into words....

I would say just give it time....if she comes back good, if she doesn't move on....why would you want someone who doesn't love you as much you do....

Good Luck!!

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posted December 30, 2012 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 30, 2012 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geeky:

The point is that it's over. She doesn't owe him anything.

^ I agree.

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And to come to an ASTROLOGY forum and then demand that we not judge the synastry, makes him a jerk too. No wonder she is boinking someone else...


I didn't read where he "demanded" we not look at the synastry at all. I think he just isn't in the mood to hear anything bad about it at the moment. He posted the synastry so it doesn't make sense if he were to tell us not to look at it at all.

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