posted January 22, 2013 10:37 AM            

I would like to ask You about my proffesional occupation. It seems to me that my future occupation would be for sure something weird, I don't know... or maybe I am destined to work in one of the vocations of the tomorrow..

I'm going to study something, but I have some worries about what to study first ? I don't have strenght and time, don't want to waste another year off..

My chart isn't too good as I see it. My Mercury (29' Rx Capricorn) it's seems works as some sort of mix of virgo/aquarian Mercury as I see it.
I believe that my Mars (Taurus as Exaltation of the Moon) is in reception with my moon (Scorpio as classical co-ruler of Mars)

So, Please write something about what do U see from my radix, and what do U recommend me to study.

I'm open to any suggestion
Greetings

posted January 22, 2013 05:57 PM            

it would start at the bottom of the field with routine duties and very basic pay.

there's potential for working away somewhere across borders.

you could tire of it though, there is a deep misery, your natural inclination is for cottage crafts and village life, chatting with women folk around you and understanding the matrix of a small and loved community. However this would not completely satisfy you either, you are complex.

instead you feel pressure to incorporate industrial/technological/structured occupation.

you can find relief/release in hobbies, writing, electronic media, music and trends.

perhaps you think if life had gone differently you could have been in artistic circles that discuss politics, art, life, psychology, and philosophy - but this opening seems unavailable to you.

There are alternative career paths: teaching, swimming instructor, hot air balloonist, actress, trapeze artist, social/economic commentator. Hence great variation.

So, mineral analyst: the gemini mc is supported by sun in aquarius, sun ruling 12th

deep misery: 12th ruled by sun in aquarius, square Moon in Scorpio feeling the effects of pluto as pluto also ruling moon therefore enhances the effects of the wide conjunction. Because moon is in the natural gemini house which is supposed to be light, airy and free moving/outgoing, the heavy nature of the scorpio/pluto mix is influencing the emotions like a restraint and like a primordial call that is not being answered. With the square to sun ruling 12th, there is a lot of instinctual natural inclination that is finding it difficult to be expressed. So the natural inclinations seem to encompass the life of a village in terms of births, deaths, and marriages, community activities, deep connections to the local environment - so most likely a cultural identity that is not being expressed, or a natural cultural way of living that is ingrained genetically but not being fulfilled to some degree due to the press for modernisation which seems to squash out some of the natural inclinations of genetic memory. Mars, moon's other ruler is in close opposition in the 9th, so again there is this conflict that needs to be assimilated. Progress/production probably around foreign economic influence is grating against these deep 'platitudes', but as in any opposition there is a paradox - inherently you have a passion for culture and for acceptance and the importance of other cultures - shown by the attraction to far away places, and the motivation to experience the fun and food of other lands.

where the other possible occupations are found in the chart, teacher: MC ruled by mercury in cap in 5th, also jupiter in 9th.

hot air balloonist: sun in aquarius in 5th, squaring moon in 3rd opposing mars in 9th, semi sextile MC.

trapeze artist: moon in 3rd in scorpio, ruling 11th, sun natural ruler of 11th in aquarius in 5th, ruling 12th - probably have trapeze artists in your ancestry. With mars opposing moon and ruling 8th, this is most likely inherited through the males of the family and with the mars in 9th square to sun yet trining the uranus/saturn conjunction, saturn ruling mercury ruling MC, uranus ruling Sun - it seems you have a distinguished ancestor in this, most likely a great grandfather possibly your father's mother's father.

posted January 23, 2013 08:38 AM            

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You could be a mineral analyser....

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Yeah, I was wondering about that as my major occupation. I've had stones collection from the very childhood. That Scorpio Moon in 3rd and Jupiter in 9th are connected somehow to digging in the ground - preciouse stones, minerals and metals.
I'm doing very well with computer stuff like systems administration and programing, but I have extreme calling for adwenture... so I should be in field.

But what about my occult interests (nine house - religion etc.) and martial arts? I was trained decade in Taekwondo and it was good for me, if not very good experiences for my mental and physical condition. (Nine house, mars, jupiter - Sport)
I've really big interest in every mystery, history (Neptun in 4th), occult wisdom and so on, connected with that.
What about being teacher in that branch of knowledge? I think it could be some occult connected (Libra in 2th), Plutonian Scorpio Moon (Mental thelepaty) I am very sensitive to astral incomes.
I'm fond of astrology too, but don't think that I could objectively do analyze my radix. ;-)

Virgo Ascendent and Mercury in Capricorn, but I point that Mercury is in 29 degree, so isn't so Capri as it might looks, really... It's more virgo's than capri's.

I'm powerful speaker and have deep undegrounds feelings as I call it (that pluto moon in 3rd)
Im extra aware of psychological workings of peoples. What about being psychoanalyst?

What about foreigns languages? (that Taurus Mars and Jupiter in 9th?) Strong 3rd house and so on/?

I haven't any ancestors as I know, that would be trapez artist, that's really funny.

Do You think, that some technological studies are the best option to choose?
My father is power engineer and automatic mechanic. (Powerhouses - design and building)

What about my ancestors, I had very much great figures like father's father's father (repatriation to Poland, collected and made books in which he had gigantic interest in, Soldier (First World's War), father's mother's father (Tallented builder, great Blacksmith). Roots of my family are in Ukraine (old and real polish people) from where they had to slip away from UPA murderers.

Futhermore... I don't have 12th house in Leo, but (when You take my real birthtime as 19.40) I have ascendent on 13'(...) of Virgo and my 12th house is something about 50/50 Leo/Virgo. So Sun/Mercury and futher in both cases I have most of the Leo in 11th house, what about that?

My family (Father, 3 from 4 Sisters [and have one Brother too]{ my siblings're younger than me, im the first}) is very talented musically. My numerogical number is 3: Artist. In many cases I'm extremist.

Cheers

posted January 23, 2013 06:18 PM            

Taurus Mars and Jupiter in 9th, with the strong 3rd house does have a bit of a foreign languages feel but more so has a pushy feel that can sort people out, and get others where they need to be or access opportunities to improve the workforce such as being a liaison person to get people into productive and meaningful roles that support infrastructure etc, and in the meantime respecting the motivations, beliefs and cultural connections/importances of others.

The mineral analysis looks more like a technical certificate qualification than a long term study however you could branch into a larger tertiary degree with that type of subject.

You may not have '12th house in Leo' however you do have Leo on the 12th cusp and the cusp sign and rulership sets the tone of the house. There probably is some influence when the beginning of the sign is in a house, however generally, I think most analyses of a chart are served very well by cusp sign, rulership, planet placement, and aspects, but you may think otherwise and you are welcome to that.

I have no idea what would be the best to choose, it seems though, that you don't have the luxury of choosing whatever you want in terms of availability, prerequisites, finances, personal disposition to commitment, and something more - perhaps it is a national difficulty inherent within the national systems - there seems to be a degree of barricade so that in fact your options are more narrowed. That doesn't mean to say you have no hope or opportunity, it just seems that the options aren't as broad or available in reality.

posted January 24, 2013 10:06 AM            

Yeah Chryseis, You've really proper approach as Astrologer and I very like and appreciate it. Thank You very much.

I will wait for - maybe - some other views on that, but don't know who could write more about...
It's hard work anyway and as work is always hard or only seems to be ;-) Indeed, approach is everything.

posted January 24, 2013 12:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Chryseis:
yes you could be in some kind of psychological analysis occupation but maybe not psychoanalyst per se, perhaps more like a mental health counsellor or someone who has a supportive advisory role to those in need, especially with the asc/dsc axis, and the jupiter and ceres placement - and of course the moon placement.

Taurus Mars and Jupiter in 9th, with the strong 3rd house does have a bit of a foreign languages feel but more so has a pushy feel that can sort people out, and get others where they need to be or access opportunities to improve the workforce such as being a liaison person to get people into productive and meaningful roles that support infrastructure etc, and in the meantime respecting the motivations, beliefs and cultural connections/importances of others.

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Cheers.

posted January 26, 2013 04:56 PM            

Grandgrandfather from father's site http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/752/27561935.jpg Is Capricorn connected with Train?
And my deceased grandmother from father's site too: http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/889/astrow2at31hwarhp650623.jpg She was a nurse. Nice 8th house, isnt it?

Chryseis, U've wrote that I could be teacher but in what section could U see it?

I've got huge fondness for Art and Design too. Could I be someone in that or I haven't got to much free imagination for doing it?

Indeed I'm so complex and I feel that I cannot find estuary for all this things.
I think that it was submitted in my chart by Mars position and his aspects. It's stressful and I'm going to be bald... Don't know that activity and meditation will help for it.

I sometimes feel like Im in apart as Aquarius and Scorpio, and Scorpio's site is taking controle over Aquarian. Moon in fall, but it feels like is strong as hell with that.

Greetings

posted January 26, 2013 06:29 PM            

Now that I know you are a guy, ie. potential for baldness, I see the performer element like mentioned with the trapeze artist, but also feel fire twirling would work as well. I still feel you have an ancestry with such performers but can not see it from the grandfather chart you displayed but can see it from the grandmother's chart. Is that grandfather chart the father of the grandmother(your father's mother) because that is who I was looking for. So it would be your father's grandfather through his mother.

This grandmother of yours is well formed has the performer blood and is clairvoyant, musical, and I would say 'people clever'. So she is a good judge of people but she is also liberal in allowing many expressions so that she isn't rigid in her expectations of how others should behave - she has known how to kick up her heels and live fully and vibrantly. She may have some expectations but these would only be related to a practical sense to keep safe - so she may impinge on others to get their behaviour into a realm that she would class as safer. Also in her life she has felt stifled and fearful so the vibrancy had a narrower margin for expression within her life and was confined to a close circle. I think she is very versatile herself as you are too. She could have been anything from a cookery expert that could teach too, and this could maybe be the finer techniques of doughs and good qualtiy dishes. On the otherhand she could have got a tractor going along with maintaining and doing the mechanical work herself. The Saturn quincunx pluto in cancer gives her a softness that is very warming and becoming. The sun trine uranus, with sun ruled by mercury in virgo conjunct Neptune, gives her a keen insight and this imbues her with a laugh that is probably distinctive and boisterous. It doesn't feel that the houses/ASC are correct but i can still read the qualities of the chart. The square of Jupiter to Pluto in aspect to Saturn gives me a sense of an ample frame that is curvy.

The grandfather chart indicates someone who was meek and in a degree of pain/fear associated with his memories. Once angry he would be the type to shake in rage but not actually start throwing his weight around. I feel sorry for him, its like he was confused about the impact of things, like as if he went along with certain expectations or ideals pressed upon him then he experienced tremendous disappointment and disillusionment and felt like he had made worthless choices or feel betrayed - but it seems like he was caught up in outside influences and he really had no choice as it would have taken a lot of energy to stand against the influences rather than go with them. I think he has at least the swimming ability as well but I do not see trapeze artist. It seems more like bureaucratic compliance like he could even have been some kind of administrative clerk. If he was more hands on in occupation it seems like he would have been in a tidy environment to do with folding something as part of a production. I think he would have liked american performers like bing crosby, not so much fred astaire, but Gene Kelly. These american performers come to the fore (along with other sensations) as seen in the Moon in Sag, quincunx Mars in Aries, and quincunx Jupiter retrograde in Cancer. The american performers are just an example that comes to mind. I think the theme is something about how other men from other places are free to express themselves. So it is like he goes through some little dance steps in his head but not likely to outwardly do so.

Yes, I think you have a variety about you though I think eventually practicality will win out, and there is a degree of mundanity but it will give a sense of security. You lack a degree of courage, and I think there is a meekness to you as well, that would be bolstered by the support of male family members or close friends. So for instance, if you were a trapeze artist, which probably wouldn't practically happen, however if it did, your temperament would get to accomplish these feats through the support of those around you, so in another time, you would have been good as part of a family troupe, as trapeze artist requires courage, and you almost have to think your success before you start the display, and this positive visual aspect would be strengthened by male support around you.

Yes the scorpio feel is strong about you because the Moon in Scorpio, ruled by Pluto in Scorpio, and Mars in close opposition to Moon.

The aquarius side to you does tend to get overshadowed because Sun is ruling 12th house cusp, and rulers of Sun, Saturn and Uranus are in Capricorn in the 4th House with Saturn conjunct Neptune. So there is like a hiding feeling despite sun being in the 5th house. Its like your sun says, but can I do that, can I show that? And the chart echoes back, 'maybe, but you have to be quiet and clever to express the more individual aspects about yourself, go carefully'.

posted January 26, 2013 07:26 PM            

Indeed, I'm meek and with all that pressure I like it very much to be meek and quiet (on mind too) most of the time, but I do have that time of courage and when it goes to words I'm very often brave and I'm defending myself and others in the first way by words, but I can fight physically too. I'm clever and don't like to waste my physical energy when I have more mental. Sometimes I'm producing it way too much.

What about taking my Sun as equivalent of MC, Venus Of DC and taking Plutonic Moon as equivalent of IC? ;>

Could U write more about my IC in Saggitarius as U've wrote higher: "...the cusp sign and rulership sets the tone of the house." and I have got 4th in Saggitarius, but is more heavy by his ends in Capricorn, isnt it? How to get this one? I see 4th house mainly as "psychic structure" something not only like home, but more far fundamental and personal. It's not Stellium in Capricorn, but rather someting alike Satellitium in Capricorn, when You add that Mercury and Venus.
How do U think about that theory about Satelitium and about as I've wrote in my first post: reception beetwen my Moon and Mars?
For me something's up, but I do think that radix and what is presented by it, is simply too complicated.

What about my ancestors radixs. That grandgrandfather is not father of my grandmother but father of her husband. I can't have date of birth of her father, cause there's no one who remember about him in that way and his grave is very far away from there.
There is my mother's father (very good professional driver, drinker) and mother
What could U write about them? They'are still alive and both lost fathers in WWII. My grandma is very active as You can see from there, hehe. She was teacher in Kindergarten.

btw. Do U're interpreting some aspects by some tables, or rather as free association of intuitive jumps?

Thanks You very much for Your time! I'm sending good vibrations to You!

posted January 27, 2013 04:42 AM            

The Sag IC/4th imbues you with faith as you probably had a considerable religious/moral/culturally significant background. Even if you travel to other countries you will think well of your home land and happily return. Higher education was most likely looked to as the holy grail of life to bring meaning and opportunity.

Yes, I gain some of the info on reading the chart from intuition, some from received info, and some from a level of astrological understanding.

Your mother's father, is a very straight forward man. He could very well have been a builder as he could build things conceived mentally. In some ways he is quite progressive as he is open to new things.

I think he would like to meet women that he could admire more, as he understands that they should have the same importance and capabilities in most things as a man, however they keep falling short and I think it is in some cases that they can't give him a suitable argument for what they believe in or what they think is important. He would happily have a woman running the country if she could give him confidence to believe that she could see the real issues, it seems like he thinks a woman gets distracted and he wonders if the reason is because she still retains a feeling of inferiority so doesn't try hard enough to see things as clearly as a man.

There are in fact many disappointments for him along these lines. He feels that people could have things so much better but they allow unimportant things to confuse stuff. He hopes that key politicians do really have their thinking straight but they have to word things in such a unfocused way because they are trying to be diplomatic - so essentially he has a lot of hope pinned on that people in authority, with the power to change things for the better, will so eventually once they appease the various others. But over the years he has been devastated and wonders if they really do know what is what. He doesn't want to run the country himself, he just wants to support people who can see things clearly, and see the basic sensible solutions. He is not that motivated to be in charge at all, and probably has generally enjoyed the rhythm of the day and the seasons etc and he enjoys a sort of dance with the day, as he rolls his way through his routines. So though progressive in his openess to improvements on a wider scale, he adjusts and generally operates within a framework of sameness, which seems to be a very solid approach to life.

He probably could have indulged waywardness at times, however the waywardness would still be within a framework so he had limits and not likely to wreck the week in a week long drinking session unless it had been planned by him and others to be a weeklong session.

The professional driver, I can't see in the chart, other than the Jupiter trine Mercury,with Jupiter ruling the Sag Sun, and the traditional ruler to Mars here.

He could well have been able to make wine or another fermented drink, but yes definitely a disappointment for him if he was watching girls at a festival wear they dance with ribbons or maybe may pole ribbon dancing and he would feel concerned that the girls might think that the height of their success would only be dancing and making a suitable marriage. He definitely wanted women and girls to do more with their lives as he felt the equality keenly.
He too has an affinity with water, but more so for fun and enjoyment as a great means of leisure and a pleasant recreation.

He also would have liked fire and probably this would be one of the few things that he would like to take charge of, like a big BBQ or outdoor cooking thing, and would like burning rubbish etc too, so gets a thrill of the potential of a well kept fire to contribute good food and warmth but also to clear away debris.

So yes, a very simple man, but progressive in his ideals and thinking.

Your mother's mother, would have been gorgeous and elegant, or just gorgeously elegant, and would emanate feminine elegance. She was probably brunette but could well have had fair headed children.

She could get highly strung and anxious as she had high standards and would probably tsk, tsk when things looked like they might get slighlty out of control. Cooking would not have been her forte, however she probably had a set repertoire of recipes that she could do very well, overall though not naturally a cook. She could have been a ballerina or dance something that was similar to something like a polka, or even a tango. She doesn't seem she would be averse to downing a few drinks herself and I think she would keep her posture after tossing down three shots in quick succession.

When I look at the bottom of her chart, I can here bells ringing and I think of Christmas or a celebration within a church that carried on out into the streets with little bells ringing and she would have loved that. There may have even been bells on horses reins, like the proverbial jingle bells in wintry weather.

posted January 27, 2013 07:39 AM            

Indeed, my grandfather very loves barbecues and open fire. He can do vodka of great quality and it's better than from the shop Oh, irony!

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The grandfather chart indicates someone who was meek and in a degree of pain/fear associated with his memories. Once angry he would be the type to shake in rage but not actually start throwing his weight around. I feel sorry for him, its like he was confused about the impact of things, like as if he went along with certain expectations or ideals pressed upon him then he experienced tremendous disappointment and disillusionment and felt like he had made worthless choices or feel betrayed - but it seems like he was caught up in outside influences and he really had no choice as it would have taken a lot of energy to stand against the influences rather than go with them. I think he has at least the swimming ability as well but I do not see trapeze artist. It seems more like bureaucratic compliance like he could even have been some kind of administrative clerk. If he was more hands on in occupation it seems like he would have been in a tidy environment to do with folding something as part of a production. I think he would have liked american performers like bing crosby, not so much fred astaire, but Gene Kelly. These american performers come to the fore (along with other sensations) as seen in the Moon in Sag, quincunx Mars in Aries, and quincunx Jupiter retrograde in Cancer. The american performers are just an example that comes to mind. I think the theme is something about how other men from other places are free to express themselves. So it is like he goes through some little dance steps in his head but not likely to outwardly do so.

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Your mother's mother, would have been gorgeous and elegant, or just gorgeously elegant, and would emanate feminine elegance. She was probably brunette but could well have had fair headed children.

She could get highly strung and anxious as she had high standards and would probably tsk, tsk when things looked like they might get slighlty out of control. Cooking would not have been her forte, however she probably had a set repertoire of recipes that she could do very well, overall though not naturally a cook. She could have been a ballerina or dance something that was similar to something like a polka, or even a tango. She doesn't seem she would be averse to downing a few drinks herself and I think she would keep her posture after tossing down three shots in quick succession.

You say she's still alive, but I'm getting too much auditory sensations and started to get the shivery feel like when someone who has died is excited that I am receptive and that they might like to tell me something. If she is still alive, I don't know why this would be.

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She have a lot of grandchildrens and maybe that why shy is, but after all she is doing fine and loves to help her children when she can and even more. She loves to digs the ground in the garden, not only her garden. She uses variety of herbs not only in the kitchen, mainly for health's issues (and is indeed true what had U wrote about her cooking skills and keeping the recipe

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The professional driver, I can't see in the chart, other than the Jupiter trine Mercury,with Jupiter ruling the Sag Sun, and the traditional ruler to Mars here.

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posted January 27, 2013 07:19 PM            

The sensation is still there when I look into the lower planets in the chart as it is here. Like suddenly something opens up and there is a lot of impressions available to me and a feeling like someone wants to communicate. I will see if I can get what it is about.

Apparently the person is a Komma-Kaas, or maybe it is a Kommer Kaas/kas. There is lots of use of komma and kommer through europe from sweden to russia as per google,but I don't know which one. It seems like someone that is right there with the person, like attached to them, or they are calling in, it doesn't seem that 'guide' encompasses the idea. I think the person did live but I can not ascertain when.

I thought they were the same person as they feel so close to the grandmother. Her actual lived name, the kommakaas or whatever the personality is, is called by the name Perwecki Vogklosik, or maybe more like Percwecji Vojcklosjic some kind of mix like that, of (last life) place, starts with an f sound, maybe Fulga, or pronounced Folga could even be Volga. The name of her doesn't seem to fit with the language.

She's saying that she is Mor Kampf or something, so I can't translate it because I just can't get any meaning for it, however some meanings of Kommer, were like sorrow or missed, maybe. I really don't know but it is like they are ok, but class themselves as in sorrow or struggle maybe.

Anyway, this is pretty confusing and I think I have a few languages mixed in. I really can not get any closer to names or places. Actually, apparently the place had a river near, that has a big steep hill on one side and a low rise on the other, and it looks like a type of deer would graze there, and they almost look like reindeers to me, but not big like those big white reindeers, smaller ones and brownish. And the people that lived there were fearful and not allowed to do what they used to, and their clothing changed but used to be brighter. And the biggest city near the area was called something akin to Heaven's Gate she says but maybe this is a pun, and still the actual name is Fulga/Fulgas. There is a Fulga in Romania but seems a long way from where your grandmother was born in Tarnopol. I can't get any definites on it, sorry. If it is the Romanian Fulga, there are mountains, valleys and rivers there which is consistent with the imagery that I see.

posted January 29, 2013 09:19 AM            

I was today on the graves (70km in one direction) and have the dates.
Here we go:
My (father's mother) grandmother's father:

and his father:

Good trip for my birthday

posted January 29, 2013 07:44 PM            

Sorry, hope you didn't go out of your way too much to see the graves. After all that, I can't see the trapeze artist/performers in either of these charts, sorry, wild goose chase it seems.

The first one does have good body form though, but suffered horrendous headaches, probably related to cold air it feels like. He also seemed to suffer chesty stuff maybe related to too much smoking. He could have been quite active, riding bicycles and such but can not particularly see the performer troupe there, although there is something showmanship-ish but I can't pin point it, could be related to pride and slogans or something.

The second chart seemed to look after children as it looks like a lot of children around him on a daily basis. It almost seems like he is hiding behind the children but probably not out of lack of courage, more so that he is able to care for them better by using them as an excuse to someone. I can see him sleeping in a hammock, but not anything to do with a suspended hammocky thing under a trapeze.

Sorry about that, I can't justify my ideas now.

posted January 30, 2013 08:32 AM            

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Hi traveler,

Sorry, hope you didn't go out of your way too much to see the graves.

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No I was there with friend by the way, and wanted to have this dates as Im going to investigate it too.

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The first one does have good body form though, but suffered horrendous headaches, probably related to cold air it feels like. He also seemed to suffer chesty stuff maybe related to too much smoking. He could have been quite active, riding bicycles and such but can not particularly see the performer troupe there, although there is something showmanship-ish but I can't pin point it, could be related to pride and slogans or something.

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I think that headaches was related to overheating, due that he had spent a lot of his time as a blacksmith very near the hearth at his smithy. Indeed, as I know he was very helpful person in his village and had reputation in region.

posted January 30, 2013 09:06 AM            

Thanks for your feedback. I looked to find the blacksmithing in his chart. Was it to do with iron wheels such as train wheels at an actual foundry.

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Thanks for your feedback. I looked to find the blacksmithing in his chart. Was it to do with iron wheels such as train wheels at an actual foundry.

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Yes, I do really enjoy that.

Greetings