posted January 26, 2013 05:08 PM            

ok well here's the main issues i'm trying to work through at the moment:

i am fairly newly self employed but am considering going back into corporate employment, even though it's not really what i want to be doing - cos i'd much rather be my own boss. but saturn is returning soon and i'm already feeling the pinch. if i let the business go i will regret it in the long run...cos this is half my dream. but i'm just looking to this saturn return right now and going, "is this realistic?"

i am also looking to move which i'm pretty sure is the right thing to do...it's not a nice neighbourhood although i'm used to it here as it is where i grew up and it is close to my family. if i move it will be much further out. thing is i've had so MUCH change in the last 2/3 years this just seems like another stressful change to add atop everything else, to be somewhere i'm totally unfamiliar with. it's just adding to the general all round feeling of insecurity.

the relationship thing is tough because although myself and my partner get along great i still have some big reservations. i initially told him i didn't want a relationship AT ALL because i'd just come out of the most devastating break up of my life. my ex and i were jointly running the business, aswell. so that all ended badly. i went self employed on my own. then this guy came along, someone i went to school with, though we didn't know each other well then. he was very persistent despite my plain stating why i wasn't into it. however i'm glad he did because i was fairly close to self destructing. so he looked out for me when i most needed it but it has once again left me feeling kinda co-dependent which is everything i was just getting away from. I don't really like who i am/become in a relationship.

though i do love him i would say i have had to hold back on falling IN love with him, which is a totally unnatural mode of operation for me. but i can't risk losing any more of myself to anyone else. but we do seem to be growing and bonding together for now. tbh i'm terrified of having to extract myself from another unhappy relationship further down the line when things ARE more settled. i'm not sure where to go with this one. in general it's like i tend to ruin happiness in relationships but i have felt the need to always be in them.

i don't know how much of an impact the chart ruler is making on any of the above.

really any help or comments appreciated.

posted January 26, 2013 07:21 PM            

But just off the top re:moving, transit Saturn will be squaring natal Jup in your 4th off and on for the year pretty much. Jup rules the 3rd of your community, placed in 4th of home, so really any place is going to feel a bit unsatisfactory and up in the air in some way. And you have a fixed Jup so that can get really uncomfortable. On top of that, progressed Moon is coming up to square your natal IC, again something is bound to feel "off."

So just know that with that involved, you'll be predisposed to viewing your living situation as a challenge no matter what is on the agenda or on the back burner. Transit Jupiter is coming to trine its natal position. That is, the way your natal is set up, one indicator for moving, so keep that in mind. It won't force you, but it might ease the transition, maybe some aspect you thought would be really arduous turns out to be not that bad. Maybe since it's in Air someone is trying to convince you to move forward in that respect, they could say the right thing to change your mind. Doesn't mean you have to move, just know that the opportunity might seem less of a hassle then. Jupiter makes its final direct trine on March 13. Also notice progressed IC is conjunct your natal Jupiter. On a deep level here you're turning into someone who wants expansion at all costs. It's in Aquarius so you're yearning for freedom and to change things up a bit. This goes alongside Uranus just having moved off of natal Moon. I think even if you don't want to acknowledge it, that you want this emotional change to be evidenced in your actual living environment. I think you want to open up and breathe in some new life there.

Oh I see the issue now. Your 4th ruler is Saturn, it's transiting the 2nd in Scorp, that's the desire to hang onto security.
Also transiting Saturn is squaring your progressed IC, tight. Discomfort. I really think it's up in the air anyway, I think you're trying like hell, on one hand, to hang on to something that you know is going to change anyway. And that makes sense. I get it. But look at your progressed Moon, another indicator for security, going through your 7th. It's conjunct your natal Dsc right now. Focus is shifting big time to the partner, to equality in relationships, to being clear on what you want. So with your partner, regarding moving, including them for the next 2 1/2 yrs or so in your decision making is going to be the challenge here.

OK here's the truth, there's security there that will vanish in the way that you think of it now. So terms will be redefined, since altho Pluto/Uranus is practically done with your Moon/Pluto natal via transit, it still has to work on your IC. And, it's now working on your progressed Moon. That's the bottom line.

posted January 26, 2013 07:46 PM            

everything said so far is ringing very true

posted January 27, 2013 03:03 AM            

Self-Employment: Possibility next year, when Saturn return is official, of involving another person in this pursuit. Someone who can act as a go-between for you, someone very enthusiastic/passionate. Progressed Moon going through your 7th, ruling the 10th, also signifies involving another individual in this matter. Now whether you can work on it with them in the background while you get other things settled, I don't know if that's an option for you as I don't know your business. At the same time of Saturn return Uranus ruling 5th, natally in 3rd, will be crossing the Dsc/squaring the Mc, says to me possibility of involving another individual to move goods and be this mobile person (if that is a need or concern for you), someone handling communications, getting orders, making the right calls, something to that effect. This takes you away from corporate job as Uranus sq Mc is antithetical to 9-5, preferring to break out, which goes in line with Uranus = Mc direction you're under. I don't know if there's a possibility of working from home for you, but transit Pluto ruler of 2nd is nearing your natal Ic, seems to make its 1st exact hit 2/15/15, there could be the possibility of something like that opening up for you then if that is what you're working toward.

Back to the present, with Saturn going through your 2nd and the concern over income. It rules the 4th so if the corporate job involves 4th house matters you'll likely see gains, real estate, working with children or for children in some capacity, families. Or, since Ic is Capricorn, an actual government/bureaucratic position. Since it's the 4th if your role is care taking or security in some capacity you could also gain financially from that, at this time. Situation will seem to stabilize Nov of this year with Saturn transit making its first trine to your Mc. This is around the time that Jupiter crosses your Mc, a good time to push the boundaries especially if you work in a Cancer type occupation, which can be dealing with finances, securing finances for others, real estate, the caring professions. Jupiter natally rules the 3rd and it's in the 4th, once again focus on these Cancer/4th house dynamics, this time showcasing what you have to offer. Maybe this will spark some ideas to help in your decision making in this matter. Jupiter will be going through your 9th very shortly. This is a time to make needed contacts, get certifications, training, whatever you need to do to help secure a position once it hits the Mc. Networking. Getting ideas from people who are in the same type of self-employment in your industry and what they did or are doing to advance their goals, maybe you'll meet people who faced similar circumstances as yourself and struggled, a good time to share your story and get feedback. If you do this your mind will spark with new ideas. Also Jupiter rules the 3rd connected to media, making calls, sending letters, getting the word out, going through the 9th would be a good time for self promotion if that is a factor for you in your line of work. A good time to think of marketing strategies and what would appeal to as wide an audience as possible, studying trends. It's in Gemini so the focus will likely be getting lots of feedback from as many types of people as possible, throwing ideas out there and seeing if someone bites. Jupiter in Gemini will play around with ideas, the messenger, will throw them out there just for debate, so think how that could work for you in this area, since it wants to get people talking. Double emphasis with this since it rules your 3rd, so have a think on that for a bit.

" but i'm just looking to this saturn return right now and going, "is this realistic?" "
---I understand. I'm throwing out there possibilities. If it's a financial issue, buying food, paying bills, then it's more dire, and proceed accordingly as you see fit. But if there's still time to think of a possible workaround, maybe juggle responsibilities a bit here and there, that is an option too. However I understand Saturn through the 2nd, there's pressure to get it figured out now, and it's the monkey on your back nagging at you pushing you. Well one thing I can say, Ms. Progressed Asc in Scorpio nearing natal Pluto, better off with your cards close to your chest, planning, until you make your first move. This is a relatively new influence for you but it's crucial in securing what you need and standing strong alone if that is the goal, which it seems to be.

"my ex and i were jointly running the business, aswell."
---OK so it is a business that you could possibly employ a new person in with you. Consider that still an option. This person like I said would help with the day to day operation, communications, getting the word out, etc. 3rd house matters. This will benefit you as one stumbling block is natal Neptune ruling 6th in 3rd squaring Moon that is the Mc ruler. Maybe you have certain sensitivities that affect how well you can get your word across, maybe a health issue on your mind a lot, slight difficulty getting organized, maybe a certain obligation that keeps you from being as out and about as you'd like to be I'm not sure. But from other influences coming in what I did see was this person being your eyes and ears a bit, and this seems more active next year than this after looking at it briefly.

Co-dependence: Natal Neptune sq Moon/Sun, danger of seeking another to define you.
Think of the progressed Moon in 7th not as being subservient or enmeshed with the partner. It's about defining where you stand, your needs, and actively looking for someone to meet them. And it's being honest about where/how/why you messed up in the past. 7th is the house of give and take, the true partner, of equals. In the not too distant future, looking at your directed 7th house ruler here, you're going to be faced with past wounds opening back up. You see the emphasis in the chart on the 8th here. The house of shared resources and going deep, into painful issues since Chiron is here. But so is the NN, which is conjunct at the moment directed Venus, ruler of your natal Asc, so everything is pointing in this direction. You may experience fits and starts in the process there may be frustrations, you may even feel as if to reveal yourself that your entire relationship would be threatened. You may feel weak in this process, victimized, unsteady.

"but we do seem to be growing and bonding together for now."
---I can see the pressure so if this is what feels comfortable it makes complete sense to me.

"but i have felt the need to always be in them."
---Asc and Dsc rulers are in the 7th. Interesting. Lots of emphasis in that house, related to Libra, pile up means there's a balancing act that needs to take place to work with it. Being a partner to your partner, but also to yourself.

posted January 27, 2013 09:53 AM            

that has helped a lot to confirm my intuition with regards to these things and going by what you said it seems i should follow through with it. i had been reluctant to move but you are right it needs to happen and has needed to for sometime now. so, very excited.

i am definitely reticent about going back under employment of someone else so the balance of working from home and self employment will likely be my focus now. uranus is quite adamant in pushing me in that direction. i will look into the training, marketing and networking as you say. these are things that have been in the back of my mind for some time now aswell, so i will be building upon those ideas.

to have a partner in business, a life partner preferably, has always been the goal. obviously the heavy 8h emphasis is pointing toward that and the intensity is now what i find daunting, of signing up to something i can't get out of without great upheaval - having been through that already once.

so with mars/chiron, possible partnership issues resurfacing soon - i think as you say, though trying to find a balance, the tendency will be to play my cards close and stake out the situation for while longer, before diving in. it's important i build upon the ability to stand alone if needs be. pluto is helping

and so have you.

thank you.

posted January 27, 2013 06:27 PM            

Regarding Mars/Chiron watch for around 5 Feb, 19 Oct, and to a lesser extent 3 Jun, for possible issues in that area to be brought to your attention, most likely internally. Externally, dates of, well a recent one passed 31 Dec of last year, this year 26 Apr, 3 Sept. And then some type of shift happening with this, maybe around early Aug 2012, and early Jan of 2014. Just a theory. May not happen/have happened just putting it out there. But if something wasn't set off with the partner situation around early/mid Nov last yr then those dates are likely invalid. If you reacted to that time then watch for something there stimulated again, not in the same manner, but touching on similar types of issues.

posted January 28, 2013 10:22 AM            

yes, crikey, i know what the august thing was. i have a rough idea about the november thing. god, 2014? #thepain! lol will keep my eye out for those dates. it's funny tho, i did recently have an intuition about the feb 2014 mark, so we'll see.