posted July 08, 2013 08:42 AM            

Devil, Ace of swords, King of Swords

The Page of Wands fell after I had found these cards, this indicates to me that there is something to be conveyed by the guide so I have drawn three more cards just to outline the message. I went a little dizzy when I drew the cards which I feel means that there is menace here or crankiness/frustration or even a sort of pushiness - and I feel a little defensive like as to watch my step. The cards are:
Ten of cups, Seven of swords, Two of pentacles

The imagery and sensations is that the guide has a lot to tell, they are trying to coax me to sit and take part in some mint tea with other stuff in it. The environment feels dark like when nomadic people are outdoors and sit on blankets etc around a fire at the end of the day and they talk etc, socialise or hear stories, the fire is low. There is an impression that the guide has others in attendance but perhaps it is just the imagery is like a left over way of being that the guide still has ingrained in them, and that is how they knew to go about the time of day to tell one another things. So there is an ushering in type of feeling to me like, come in, come in, yes sit and partake with us as there is something to be exchanged between us.

So the guide feels tall and commanding and is quite well filled but fit, so not overweight but he has enough to eat and he eats goat. It feels like he is middle eastern or northern African, he indicates no, he is Tulisan, a type of ethnicity, and I see a couple of references on the web which point to either the Philippines or Indonesia and to arabs, and he says Indonesia, or more precise, Micronesia (comes in some external clarification aside from the guide). I think they were an arab people in Micronesia, and it appears that there were arabs in Indonesia hundreds of years ago. The time frame feels not that long ago though but I can't determine the year. He has stomach trouble, a tape worm I think -and yes, it seems to be the case. OK, the communication can't be allowed. He said in translation, 'He is the first one you (me) will see. Pretty independent you (me) come...." and then there was like a scrambling effect and the communication is disallowed in this fashion. I can probably read off another type of stream which I will try now. He can not communicate directly to me as he is too menacing and its like the communication is intervened upon. So just thinking on it. He's pushed for time he's trying to read something from a book. But no, there is nothing that I can access here - I sense a problem and reading off the stream is too close - so its like a bridge between us gets broken up, and probably by the look of it this is a good thing - for me anyway.

blue's main guide is, in tarot description:
Page of cups, Five of swords, Hermit

They are sort of chattering and a little highly strung, I can't tell their gender. They are older then what they seem. They are small and thin and child like in appearance but on closer look you would see age in their face. There is a book here too that I can kind of look at. It is a fairy tale and may be Rumpelstiltskin. The guide is imaginative, meaning, they are not real or a fantasy. So I don't know what this means. I don't know the meaning of this guide. Maybe its a trick. But there is no more insight into blue's main guide here for me.

posted July 08, 2013 10:48 AM            

It's okay I could feel that you tried - felt you. I am in a different environment, so that is likely some of the difficulty as well. Sorry, I should have thought of that.

posted July 12, 2013 12:04 AM            

I don't think it matters what place/space someone is in - not from my experience anyway.

posted August 22, 2013 06:24 PM            

If so, please let me know what charts I should post - synastry, composite, and draconics?

posted August 23, 2013 06:06 AM            

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Originally posted by imeanj:
Found a SN/NN opposition within 2 degrees and was hoping you might be willing to read? Just general overview?

If so, please let me know what charts I should post - synastry, composite, and draconics?

Thanks as always.

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posted August 23, 2013 06:59 AM            

I have asked the cards to tell me about this situation with you and your ex-SO:

10 swords, 2 cups, 9 cups, Empress, 7 wands, 9 pentacles, Page wands

So, ages ago the two of you got caught up in some drama involving others and you ended up getting involved with each other in the process. There was a move, some adjustments, some sacrifices on both parts - and that was when he started to become unhappy - right at the beginning.

He had aspirations perhaps educational/
development-wise and he blamed the relationship for not being able to take the path he thought he wanted. Though he hadn't fully made up his mind about it either - but when he had something to blame for why he didn't pursue it - it suited him well though he didn't realize he was just blaming someone/something else rather than taking the blame himself for not getting organised to follow what he wanted. He will get there eventually though but probably around 40-50yrs.

In fact he went so far as to make it almost impossible for himself to pursue whatever it was (and it seems a bit technical in type of pursuit). So yes, he made it so impossible and out of reach so that he could really, really think that you and the relationship were the reason for not following his dream.

In the meantime, you had a few bones to pick with him. He would kind of sign himself out of the moment and be unavailable often. You found it hard to feel he was really listening or considering what you were saying - the 'us' feeling was not strong from his input. You felt like you were the only one attending to some things - and it was so hurtful and frustrating. Stuff like laundry, rotating food so that the cupboard was not full of out of date stuff because he had taken the newer in date stuff first - things like that. So they were kind of trivial and kind of not - you could have tolerated it and you even developed some of your interest in stuff that he liked such as sport etc - you really tried to make it work. Problem was he felt like a failure from the start and eventually could not see a future for himself in the relationship so he had to get out of it - he thought, so that he could start having some kind of future he could be proud of. However a lot of it was an internal thing going on with him - as said.

He sometimes wondered 'are you really that naïve to think we can make a go of this - can't you see that you are deceiving yourself and trying to deceive me'. And yes, with the Empress card 'Moon issues like mothers and upbringing and how each went about living and creating a home' were definitely on the agenda - as with most couples I guess.

So you may have even gone against your natural first choice of a sport team so that you could be united with him and his choice and wear the jumpers and gear etc associated with it.

and the future regarding him:

Hanged Man, 8 cups

He is fond of you. He does often reflect on how good you were and how he felt about you really. I think you will stay in contact for some time but perhaps eventually you will be the one to move on emotionally.

and whether there is a past life connection between you both:

King cups, Queen swords, Page wands,
5 swords, 2 wands

No there wasn't, but there is something else between you and I can not describe it. It is like the right conditions to play out something between you - like something matched.

and what you needed to learn/discover about yourself in the relationship with him (I have randomly selected as I felt inclined - so the 3rd group of cards has three):

7 pentacles, 8 pentacles: You very much had an idea that you would be a homemaker then maybe study more later - you were looking for someone to do the hard yards for you - life/home/etc seemed a big task - you wanted someone else to sweat over it.

2 swords, Justice: You are prettier and more lush than you think. You underestimate your match potential, and you may well have realized this over time probably around 35 in correspondence with the Saturn cycle. You have the makings of a very good figure and figure-wise you will age well. Also your hair features well as a good ager with you - as in, even when you go grey and it is a little dry and faded, you will still have an attractive power.

posted August 24, 2013 08:57 AM            

Serenity, thanks for your reply, I certainly didn't think all that had happened and thought you were much younger.

Was there a sports aspect to things. Was he into sports and you tried to get more into his chosen teams/sport interests?

posted August 24, 2013 08:59 AM            

Thanks for your reply, I certainly didn't think all that had happened and thought you were much younger.

Was there a sports aspect to things. Was he into sports and you tried to get more into his chosen teams/sport interests?

posted August 24, 2013 10:27 AM            

the guy seems quite close minded but good looking. He gets a real knot of tension probably around his 'third eye'- which is probably indicative of scepticism I feel. He has a lot of head tension in general, I can feel strain going up the back of his head and into his shoulders. He seems like he would have a good build too. Has urinary issues though I think - and I saw that in the Chiron placement - its an hereditary formation. Possibly something to do with some renal tubes they seem short but sort of unusually formed and inclined to urinary infections and sediments collecting.

The composite doesn't seem to reveal much connection in terms of tangible proximity between you. That Venus-Mars-Mercury conjunction is quite good and I like how the moon is aspecting the composite ascendant but it has a feel of impossible involvement - like it just won't come together and I think it could well be on his part - he is a very suspicious guy.

I really like a lot in the synastry - a totally cool combo. The Venus-Pluto is just leaking entwinement all over the place - he is such a smooth guy. There is so much sweetheart-ness in the synastry. So yes the synastry is very wonderful but that composite is pretty cold. The tension is with the moon. The rest of the chart pushes for involvement but that Moon seems to decree like a big no and just kind of ignores the possibility of close involvement.

The north nodes in opposition is very important as you have thought and yes there is a past life involvement. Immediately I see something like an environment that is overwhelmed by a plague in combination with cholera and typhoid. It is just a devastating situation of sickness. The water is the problem, and the soil too. There were typewriters in the world at this time. The plague is like a measles epidemic with smatterings of other diseases like scarlet fever, polio, and meningitis types of illnesses. The area was afflicted due to something that is hard to describe - it is like land gods/elemental forces that were put into some kind of state had eventually manifested something. For a long time (like hundreds of years or more) things would not grow but there was plenty of water, the soil was fine and dusty. People grew grasses/grains in the muddy flats at the edges of the water and they could grow some citrus where they kept their animals.

The nature of the involvement between you feels like it was fleeting but intense. If I were to try and outline it - I would say that you were female and 'native' to the area and the guy came from away but not too far away - though he was probably recognised as a different nationality - he sort of feels like he had Egyptian in him but not necessarily known as an Egyptian.

There are layers to the nodal thing. So I think there were previous life connections and gender switches. I don't know why there is not much in the composite chart for this life time.

I can't quite place the location of the plague thing. It feels like land that would be between Russia, Bulgaria and Afghanistan. I can not pinpoint it but it could be somewhere in that middle east bit and it feels like it is right in the middle where Syria, Turkey, Armenia, Iran, and Iraq almost meet one another. I think the main city was Maragheh. Though that does have a lot of things growing so not sure exactly what the drama was about with not being able to grow very much. It does seem according to the net that there is a history of cholera in that region.

I can not really determine much more than that- sorry.

posted August 24, 2013 02:22 PM            

As always you amaze - the renal thing was spot on - how in the world did you see that in a chart?

posted August 24, 2013 02:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Chryseis:
Hi Serenity,

Thanks for your reply, I certainly didn't think all that had happened and thought you were much younger.

Was there a sports aspect to things. Was he into sports and you tried to get more into his chosen teams/sport interests?

Yes, I would love a reading. I am going through a big change at the moment.

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posted August 24, 2013 02:28 PM            

EDIT PPS: I think that Uranus has a say in this as well, I feel that there's actually an off kilter grand cross - its already coming into play. I think if we can work thru this situation, which oddly we are thus far - then the stability in being pulled in all directions can manifest something very successful. So here's to free will.

Oddily, Dr. Standley's post today...about the same thing! http://www.drstandley.com/aries_daily_horoscope_August_24_2013.shtml

posted August 24, 2013 10:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Chryseis, Could I please ask you to look at my son's chart. I am concerned about him and can post in another thread so I don't encroach on this one. Please let me know and it's OK if you can't.

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Astro keen I will certainly look at your son's chart. You might as well post it on another thread.

posted August 24, 2013 11:24 PM            

You are right with all your ideas - pretty much, and I think there are layers to a reading so, it is correct that it is both about my son as well as a younger guy that showed interest in me, and both have dark hair.

My son is my youngest child and still tied up in shared parenting with my ex-husband. My son is nearly 16yrs old. I have 3 daughters, two Leos, and one Pisces (with her sun in 5th) and they are all the apple of my eye - well, my son is too. My third daughter, a Leo, probably has considerable bearing on this situation though, for several reasons.

I am planning to move to another state and hopefully semi-retire but pursue many interests - I have to sell my house first. I thought I would move, however many things are vague or hidden from me with my own readings on this.

I am so susceptible to charm and flattery, its appalling. The younger guy persisted to get to know me and I tried to put him off over and over - for a few reasons - not least of which I just can't be bothered with the age difference - I don't want to feel like a loser all the time when I'm around someone - besides, though he is interesting and very charming - he is also manipulative, deceptive, and mean - though he hides all that, and he is very clever.

Anyway, after several declines, I agreed to go to see a band - but then for some reason he had got the whole band details wrong, and he said would I still be ok with doing something - like just have dinner. I was put off with the plan change but he seemed so pleading that I ok'd it. He is in a long term relationship with a girl but they don't get to see each other very much due to distance. And there's drama in the relationship too.

Over time, I went to his place for dinner and just to sort of hang out, for want of a better term - so yeah did that kind of thing a few times, went to lunch etc. He tried to crank things up, I avoided it all, and he every so often would text me and invite me to something. Anyway, a while back, I just told him that it doesn't suit me to spend time with someone else's bf - I just couldn't be bothered with it - and he's a chronic player - always trying to titillate someone and charm the socks off them. I can feel I am still on his agenda - I wish he would p*ss off - he is a terrible draw card for me because he is complex, charming and interesting. We have some reasonably big astrological factors going on. I can't help but feel flattered by him.

I've been waiting to move for a long time and now with the ages of my kids, I think I can finally do it - but it has its challenges. I'll be glad to get away from the guy too, though he has strong links to the state I am going to.

He didn't really cost me money other than, he was more wealthier than me and I would try to pay my way etc - as well, I never had the spare funds to shop like he can or pursue hobbies etc like he can - he loves shopping and having great stuff. He is also, I think, an addict, he has Neptune in his 1st house and his usernames on social media, were a play on some drug names - he's a stress head - but hides it and I think he regularly takes stuff to calm him down.

I had to work with him and he lives near by. I feel like I almost live with him because we seem to be so aware of each other. I think he is probably very controlling, definitely narcissistic and demanding. In many ways I feel he has got inside my head - so I think he is a bit of a sociopath - I tend to attract sociopaths - I think maybe because I'm a combo of challenge and potential doormat.

The timing is good with your reading too. I have Saturn transiting my 10th and will be coming into a conjunction with Neptune/SN/POF around Christmas and then the final conjunction is around August next year. This type of transit marks - a no going back - like a change that will include a sacrifice in order to follow one's dreams etc.

If it all comes together it certainly will be a brand new life and I will be quite different too.